Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[christian]

Posted by Lazlo (here)

I'll bite, in hopes of getting a good quality conversation going again. May I suggest, that for the time being, we assume that the messenger is anonymous. Allrighty then:

The US government uses special forces to do things that would be considered acts of war / illegal according to international law if they were acknowledged. No surprises here, so... moving on

Looking glass is real but was shut down for other reasons than those given by Dan Burisch. "Why keep looking at the future if it keeps telling us the same thing, which we don't like anyway."

We are powerful sprirtual beings and the truth is hidden from us (That's a good nod to just about every alternate forum on the web) Ditto for the "revelation" that there is a US Space Fleet.

Really, Really big things are coming this year and we will all be ascending in some form or another.

"Be a good person and do good things, but otherwise sit back and enjoy the ride, because me and DW have some big secrets and confirmations that we just can't share...Sorry about that, but it's for your own good...Free will and all, you know?"

The good guys have already won, but there is still going to be some death and destruction while the game plays out.

I'm probably forgetting something from the 4 1/2 hours of testimony (probably more like 3 total if you edit out DW).

What should we discuss?

I'm not being totally facetious here, I am just trying to figure out where we should go next, as there wasn't much that I can think of that was new.

Sums it up pretty well.

Maybe the solution is not to discuss, when substantial evidence cannot be produced out of nothing.

So all let's continue being of service in the real world and appreciate this lesson in discernment.

[onawah]

The dynamic that goes on these days after a disclosure is different than it used to be, and I think it does have to do with the "witnesses" (us) realizing more and more what an active role we play in this whole scenario.
It's rather like Nassim Haramein when he asks about the picture on the blackboard of the Universe as a bubble that is being blown up by an imaginary guy. The oldschool physicists claim the Universe is the bubble with all the little galaxies fixed on the surface of the bubble, but the guy in the picture doesn't signify at all in their scenario.
But Nassim is the wise Fool who says, "What I want to know is: WHO is THIS guy?"
When we ask that question, suddenly we go from a very limited perspective to one with much greater dimension, and one that is much closer to reality.

Which is what I think BW and DW were trying to point out, when they said that we will understand much better by the end of this year.
Not because of any particular event, but because our understanding is changing.
We are not just witnesses, we are CREATORS!

[Whitehaze]

Just an FYI and not meant to start anything, we just finished up an interview with Don Shipley a real Navy SEAL. He covered much information on the US Navy SEALs and William N Brockbrader aka Bill Wood. I hope this information will be useful and I will post it here when as soon as it is available.

[onawah]

Would you give us a quick summation, Whitehaze?
Thanks!

[Whitehaze]

Posted by onawah (here)
Would you give us a quick summation, Whitehaze?
Thanks!

Don gave us much information on his background and what he did as a Navy SEAL and what his role is now. He also goes on to explain what he does in regards to exposing false SEALs, and to what lengths he is willing to go and how. He speaks of how it impacts the SEALs and their families. He goes into how missions work, top secret clearences and such. He covered everything about the SEALs, and can provide documentation for everyone to see to prove he is who says he is. All in all it is a very informative interview by Don Shipley.

Edit to add: He also explains how this particular individual made it to top of the list.

[christian]

Posted by Whitehaze (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Would you give us a quick summation, Whitehaze?
Thanks!

Don gave us much information on his background and what he did as a Navy SEAL and what his role is now. He also goes on to explain what he does in regards to exposing false SEALs, and to what lengths he is willing to go and how. He speaks of how it impacts the SEALs and their families. He goes into how missions work, top secret clearences and such. He covered everything about the SEALs, and can provide documentation for everyone to see to prove he is who says he is. All in all it is a very informative interview by Don Shipley.

From the letter that was posted before in this thread Don Shipley states, that there are no secret SEAL teams.
So he either has no knowledge of those or he is a liar (or secret SEAL teams do really not exist).
So I don't expect anything from this interview, that would help to figure out the truth of Bill Wood's claims.
Just more of the same that was going on over all the last pages.

[Whitehaze]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Whitehaze (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Would you give us a quick summation, Whitehaze?
Thanks!

Don gave us much information on his background and what he did as a Navy SEAL and what his role is now. He also goes on to explain what he does in regards to exposing false SEALs, and to what lengths he is willing to go and how. He speaks of how it impacts the SEALs and their families. He goes into how missions work, top secret clearences and such. He covered everything about the SEALs, and can provide documentation for everyone to see to prove he is who says he is. All in all it is a very informative interview by Don Shipley.

From the letter that was posted before in this thread Don Shipley states, that there are no secret SEAL teams.
So he either has no knowledge of those or he is a liar (or secret SEAL teams do really not exist).
So I don't expect anything from this interview, that would help to figure out the truth of Bill Wood's claims.
Just more of the same that was going on over all the last pages.

Well you have made up your mind already, expect nothing and get nothing. He does explain those claims quite clearly, and is extremely knowledgable in this area.

[TargeT]

Posted by Whitehaze (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Whitehaze (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Would you give us a quick summation, Whitehaze?
Thanks!

Don gave us much information on his background and what he did as a Navy SEAL and what his role is now. He also goes on to explain what he does in regards to exposing false SEALs, and to what lengths he is willing to go and how. He speaks of how it impacts the SEALs and their families. He goes into how missions work, top secret clearences and such. He covered everything about the SEALs, and can provide documentation for everyone to see to prove he is who says he is. All in all it is a very informative interview by Don Shipley.

From the letter that was posted before in this thread Don Shipley states, that there are no secret SEAL teams.
So he either has no knowledge of those or he is a liar (or secret SEAL teams do really not exist).
So I don't expect anything from this interview, that would help to figure out the truth of Bill Wood's claims.
Just more of the same that was going on over all the last pages.

Well you have made up your mind already, expect nothing and get nothing. He does explain those claims quite clearly, and is extremely knowledgable in this area.

I sort of agree with Whitehaze, it seems you've decided already, but just for fun I'll offer this:

well, he is (was) a Navey seal, & we have NOT had that perspective here, so far i've seen two army guys & no one from the navy (though I think a USMC wife has posted... still not the same).

I HIGHLY DOUBT there are "secret seal teams" why would you keep the team secret? thats NOT how it works.. the MISSIONS are classified, the ASSETS are treated like that.. things.. not "insiders" & usualy not even "trusted employees" they are treated like assets & this works very well for command staff as they get to de-huminize the troops & can more easily send them todo terrible things (IMO on the terrible part).

most of this "black op" stuff, the "idea" that seems to be in most peoples heads is more of the flavor of NSA, CIA, etc.. THEY have some pretty crazy ways of working & I often wonder how the agencies stay together with so much distrust, secrecy & in fighting.

[humanalien]

Assuming that BW and DW are telling the truth, how were they
able to get hold of information that is so highly top secret that
it would transcend any classification system that we got?

This is the type of info that the ptw would be holding on to for
dear life and it would mean certain death for anyone trying to
steal it or anyone trying to spread the info around.

How is it that BW and DW are still alive after spreading this info
around? How is it that PC and PA are still up and running after
doing the interview?

The answer is simple. The whole story is bs, just the way the
ptw want it.

[spiritguide]

Well x Navy here. My question is how come there was not a big bug-a-boo about the supposed seal that defamed Jessy Ventura a few weeks ago when he stated he punched him out in a bar? Has he been verified as a seal? How could he have done this when Jesse wasn't there? Isn't this a case of another seal lying. No one person in the Navy past or present knows of everything that is going on and you will not get a straight answer about anything unless you have a need to know. I did hear BW say that all hell would break loose tomorrow once the PTW saw the interview and it sure has here. Intelligence agencies run the show and the services are just the go-for's. There are many double blinds in the psych-op game and it seems that some folks here cannot see that. Yes I have a DD214 and my security classification is not listed and mine was ATS. So let the courts figure it out because posing as a phony of military stature is a federal offense there are a few case precedences on this. Kerry said she welcomes that attempt so she is not worried about her community. STOP YELLING ABOUT UNFOUNDED FACTS PLEASE.

Back to the discussion of the message within the video of converging timelines now that's exciting.

[DreamsInDigital]

Because there are still forces and people that are much bigger and much "higher" up than the PTW. And, likely have told them to leave DW , BW, PA, PC and BF the hell alone. Remember the Little Fish, Medium Fish, BIG Fish annology? That was a good one.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxxx

[onawah]

OR, you could conclude that Kerry and DW and many other whistleblowers are right in their practice of putting everything they know out there, because there would be so much negative publicity for TPTW if anything should happen to them.
A practice that has been followed now for quite a few years, to our great benefit.

Posted by humanalien (here)
Assuming that BW and DW are telling the truth, how were they
able to get hold of information that is so highly top secret that
it would transcend any classification system that we got?

This is the type of info that the ptw would be holding on to for
dear life and it would mean certain death for anyone trying to
steal it or anyone trying to spread the info around.

How is it that BW and DW are still alive after spreading this info
around? How is it that PC and PA are still up and running after
doing the interview?

The answer is simple. The whole story is bs, just the way the
ptw want it.

[Khaleesi]

Hey I just found a great quote on someones page:

a memorable quote:
“It is the right and the duty of everyone who seeks the truth to doubt, investigate and consider all available evidence. Wherever this doubting and investigating is forbidden; wherever authorities demand unquestioning belief -- there is evidence of a profane arrogance, which arouses our suspicions. If those whose contentions are questioned had truth on their side, they would patiently answer all questions. Certainly they would not continue to conceal evidence and documents which pertain to the controversy. If those who demand belief are lying, however, they will call for a judge. By this ye shall know them. He who tells the truth is calm and composed, but he who lies demands worldly justice.” -- The Catholic pastor Viktor R. Knirsch of Kahlenbergerdorf in Austria

[TargeT]

Posted by Khaleesi (here)
Hey I just found a great quote on someones page:

a memorable quote:
“It is the right and the duty of everyone who seeks the truth to doubt, investigate and consider all available evidence. Wherever this doubting and investigating is forbidden; wherever authorities demand unquestioning belief -- there is evidence of a profane arrogance, which arouses our suspicions. If those whose contentions are questioned had truth on their side, they would patiently answer all questions. Certainly they would not continue to conceal evidence and documents which pertain to the controversy. If those who demand belief are lying, however, they will call for a judge. By this ye shall know them. He who tells the truth is calm and composed, but he who lies demands worldly justice.” -- The Catholic pastor Viktor R. Knirsch of Kahlenbergerdorf in Austria

this is pretty much how I've lived my life the last 7 years...

go a head, tell me NOT to do something, thats the FIRST THING I am going to do.... haha being a contrarian for the RIGHT reasons is very liberating


awesome quote.

[Whitehaze]

Posted by sleepy (here)
Whitehaze,
I look forward to this interview. I am all for vetting information. I don't think that examining a story is akin to acting like a "pack of wolves". I have not attacked the messenger but I have found big discrepancies in the message. It deserves a closer look.

There are two sides to a coin, and then there is the edge of it. All sides are worthy of investigating, leave no stone unturned. On one side of the coin you have someone claiming to be a SEAL with no documentation provided to back said claim. On the other side of the coin you have someone who can prove he is a SEAL with a plethora of documentation to back it up. The edge is covered by the latter of the two.

All I am suggesting is to consider all the evidence provided from all sources. When one begins to shut out any information they are shutting themselves off. Keep in mind that the powers that be asked human beings to take their word unchecked for a very long time.

[sleepy]

[xxxxx xxxxxx

[Whitehaze]

http://nexus.2012info.ca/radio/Nexus...avy%20Seal.mp3

[DNA]

I will say this in Bill Wood's defense, he doesn't really seem to know his audience, which would back up the idea that he isn't some well groomed liar. If he knew his audience he wouldn't waste his breath with the 9/11 stuff, he is preaching to the choir on that one.

Bill Woods does seem rather uncomfortable in his own skin, and he talks in a lot of high strained falsetto, which tends to indicate the vocal chords are stressed due to not being truthfull.

But, there could be another reason as well.
Though Wilcock loves to reference the Montaulk chair, there is information about that chair that Wilcock omits (purposely) because of the darkness and unsavory elements associated.
If Stewart Swerdlow, Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron are correct, and they are the original tellers of this tale, not Wilcock, then one thing and one thing alone powered the Montaulk chair, and that is the psychic energy that erupted from the fractured psyches of tortured preadolescent boys. And when I say tortured, I mean tortured, I could barely get through Swerdlows book on this stuff and I shall not recant the specifics.

I mention this, because it seems like folks who are ushered into this black project stuff are indoctrinated as children with the MKultra treatments, which include this torture and psyche fracturing procedure.

It is apparent in Duncan Offinion who is still in a child ego state as a result of his emotional growth being stunted due to the MKultra treatments.
Duncan bless his soul, talks like a child if you listen to his voice, and he honestly sounds nine years old to me. This is no disrespect to Duncan, it is just a comment on how this stuff solidifies the reciepient at whatever age they were when it(the abuse) happened.

I say all of this because if Bill Wood was going to be used to access looking glass, he is in the age group where he would have been groomed for it as a child, and wether he remembers it (and some don't, listen to the story of Aaron McCollum) or not, most of this trauma based mind fracturing used via MKultra is rooted in sexual abuse according to folks who have lived to tell the tale like Cathy O'Brien.

And it also stands that if he was MKultra mind damaged, it is possible that he may have some of the negative side effects that are accociated with children who are sexually abused, which is, they become sexual abusers with a slant towards pedophilia themselves.
Thus the allegations of his statutory rape charge may not only be true, it may actually cooberate and validate his story in some ways. And, it may contribute to why his voice is so high pitched, such a high pitch would be associated with a pre-pubescent voice and that also is common in folks who have had abuse as a child.

This is all conjecture on my part.
None of it is substantial enough for me to really make an argument for, but I feel it worth mentioning for consideration.

[Selene]

Wow – a troll convention on this very thread! Vastly amusing to see you all gathered here in your true colors.

You know who you are, of course.

Cheers!

Selene