The Law of One

[Dale]

Hello, all! I'm not sure where this thread is going, but I would love to share my view on the Ra Material.

It's certainly not perfect, and it's certainly not "Luciferian," but it is a very, insightful collection of material related to spiritual development. I'm quite skeptical of channeled information, but the Ra Material, whether legitimate or not, is wise beyond it's years, and resonates a clear message of unity and service to others.

[PathWalker]

Dear reader,
Some best practices regarding channeled material.

1. Better read (then listen to) the material and hear it through your own brain
2. Evaluate the material with your moral values
3. Asses how the material might affect you life
4. Feel and sense the material with your heart

Follow your heart, direct your brain. Rather then follow your brain, to direct your heart.

[onawah]

I read it with discernment and do not think it is 100% correct (what is, particularly channeled material?) I did find it to be very useful in helping me to understand several concepts which, up until then, had been confusing to me.
It explained to my satisfaction how a soul can be in service to self through many, many incarnations and not suffer the karmic consequences if they are very wise, until they hit 5D, and then they can go no further until they face the Self and see how all is One.
Before that, I was always troubled by questions as to how such as the Illuminati. could have for so long wreaked such havoc on this planet without being sent back to square one to start over and learn to be more selfless. Their wisdom is of a worldly nature, and does not give the recognition due to the power of the sacred, the divine, and ultimately, that is their downfall.
The premise that one must be in service to others 51% to qualify as "STO" (service to others) made sense. We do not have to be perfect, be completely selfless, to be on the right path. Moderation is acceptable, and one can progress in time with relative ease, though the challenges do increase as one advances, which only makes sense.
Interference with another's free will has consequences, even if one's intent if benign.
Giving one's power over to another, even to a guru, also has consequences.

[Snowbird]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)
It is not template answer its the root cause of our ways, unless we start to taking the responsibility to ask the questions! We would not be in a self created prison where we belief we are free.

Why do I think the Law of one is a Luciferian teaching is because the bases for the super scientist without direct connected with the spirit. The spirit always knows what is true or not, but because we have fallen in time it takes a long time to find out if it is true.

Conclusion doing is faster then thinking so where easy pray when it comes to programming us.

You already have proven to me that your not doing that because you belief the Law of One is fully true and I know it is not fully true. People who follow some ones elses beliefs always defend them blindly.

Posted by Mu2143 (here)
You can do what you want do with the Law of One it is your freewill as is it my freewill to expose and tell the truth!
All I know is that its not imported if the Law of One is true or not, because its about you your self nothing more.

Mu2143, your beliefs are your own and you have every right to those beliefs.

Reading through any thread on the PA board is evidence that the posters think and believe for themselves.

If you believe that the Ra channeled material is of Luciferian origin, that is perfectly fine. If you don't believe any of this channeled material, I'm okay with that.

Whatever and whoever speaks to each of us is what is important.

I cannot speak for you and you cannot speak for me. Now, that's freedom!

[john.d]

Well , the Ra material most definately worked for me .... infact it changed my life in a very positive way . Before i read it , my main passion was cagefighting and the conspiracy ..... Now its health , free energy and spirituality . Although i still like to keep informed on what the ptb are up to .
Mu2143 , you said all the same things on the old forum with nothing to back it up over and over again . You obviously have a problem with it but thats not really our concern . The people here are informed and intuitive and as with everything , if it resonates with them , then thats great . If not ..... just leave it and move on .
Its had a positive effect on thousands of people , i cant see why you think thats a bad thing .
Anyway good luck with your journey

John

[Mu2143]

Mu2143 , you said all the same things on the old forum with nothing to back it up over and over again . You obviously have a problem with it but thats not really our concern . The people here are informed and intuitive and as with everything , if it resonates with them , then thats great . If not ..... just leave it and move on .

Look!! even if I proof it to you what I said it is still no proof , that's why I never going to give you my findings to you and I tried it ones and it did not work even if I explained one answer of the Law Of One to show that RA was not telling the trued for some one who supposed to have the knowledge about densities some how is lacking and incorrect. Telling me I had nothing to back it up then you have missed this one go find it if your interested!!

[Mu2143]

I know some one that definitely can give you a better explanation about densities and It is sure not the Law of One!

[Elixer]

I too thought the Ra material very interesting. It brought me these STO/STS concepts for one, which I think are very helpful.
I don't think Carla's channelings contain the entire law of one, but only what could be communicated through that particular group. Ra has been shopping that stuff around since at least ancient Egypt.

David Wilcock offers an explanation about the missallignment that is mentioned throughout the material at times. This didn't have to do with the particular objects used to fascilitate the channel, but with the mindset of the group. If they were not properly aligned, there was opportunity for negative beings (Orion STS guys, I believe) to come through and sprinkle in some disinfo.
So it is important to be critical of the material as well and not take it all on faith. But most of us are not blind followers, as has been pointed out earlier.

The Luciferian thing is somehow always fascinating.
First of all, I guess I would say that we consider Lucifer to be one of the bad guys, a devil of sorts, but there are ideas out there that suggest that he was given this bad rep by the prevailing religious ideas of christianity. History is written by the victors.
So he might not be such a bad guy at all. Who knows?

In support of the idea that the Ra material is Luciferian:
In these books on the law of one it is mentioned that the pharaoh Aknathen was given the law of one. He was the pharaoh that attempted monotheism, I guess based upon these concepts.
Aknathen means something like son or follower of Aten. Aten is widely believed to be Enki who is believed to be Lucifer whereas Amon is believed to be Enlil and Yahweh.
Yahweh being the victorious 'deity' in this case, it is easy to see why we regard Lucifer as the evil one.

However, there is also the Hidden_Hand material, supposedly written by one member of the group conscioussness called Lucifer. Lucifer then is a social memory complex, just as Ra is and just as Yahweh is. This hidden_hand character mentions the Ra group. They are not the same, but both are intimately involved with the development on this plane. Both karmically caught up with it, as it were.

The Lucifer group, according to this hidden_hand, in principle is an STO group, who came here to help Yahweh accelerate development on his planet. They did this by introducing freewill with the apple in the garden of Eden. Freewill btw in the law of one is considered the first distortion.
Due to unofortunate circumstances, Lucifer was/were then given the choice to either abandon their work here, or become a catalyst for negativity to help man make clearer choices when it comes to good and evil, positive or negative. In effect taking their original work to the next level.

All these deities are not the one infinite creator, but subdivisions of the one. Thoughts having thoughts of their own etc. To say that, if it doesn't come from the creator, it is therefore evil, would be...a distortion. 'Things' can work in accordance with the One. Actually in this sense, is there anything that does not work in accordance with the one? For doesn't it all spring forth from that single all encompassing source?

Clearly it is not all that clear-cut.
The whole trancending-judgement concept does apply. We may consider things to be good or evil, while on another plane these things simply are.
In the Seth material for example it is mentioned that we think of physical pain as something bad and to be avoided, but to the body pain just means action.


Some more clarity on the concepts of dimensions and densities would be useful. From what I gather, no one really knows. Any explanation I heard seems too complex for me to grasp. It's that naked emperor running around again.
Carla explains it a little bit in the third video though. The major distinction I draw from her explanation is that dimensions have to do with time and space, whereas densities have to do with light. In the higher densities, the light is denser. Also, the higher the density,the more dimensionsions there can exist.

There seems to be no actual known truth to any of these things. It's all just possible points of view. Up to us to pick and choose.
But we can only do so if the point of view is properly explained (to also justify this lengthy post ). Otherwise confusion reigns and inefficient discussions might ensue, because we all have different associations (with terms like Lucifer for instance).

...and so on.

[john.d]

I enjoyed the hidden hand material too . The idea that the Luciferian group is a positive group being negative to be the catalyst we need to create polarity does seem to fit .
It says in the Ra Material that a similar thing happened on their 3d world .
Dont the tibetans say that the most spiritualy advanced thing you can do is become your enemy ?

John

[cloud9]

Thank you so much John and Steven for your gracious help!
It's kind of fun to see there is controversy everywhere! I think Mu2143 just can't explain what he/she's trying to convey, perhaps because of the language?

[Elly]

Posted by john.d (here)
Dont the tibetans say that the most spiritualy advanced thing you can do is become your enemy ?

I'm not sure I get it, but it makes me think of the movie "Kung Fu Hustle". At the end, there is a battle between a simple guy called Sing (having finally realized his true potential) and "the Beast" (notorious assassin). The Beast is touched by Sing's gesture, steps out of darkness, and surrenders to love. To embrace your enemy, isn't that the most spiritually advance thing one can do?

[Mu2143]

Posted by cloud9 (here)
Thank you so much John and Steven for your gracious help!
It's kind of fun to see there is controversy everywhere! I think Mu2143 just can't explain what he/she's trying to convey, perhaps because of the language?

Denial is the first dragon that should be slayed.
It is more like that you have a consciousness barrier!

[Arpheus]

Hey Mu i been following this thread since it started and have refrained from replying,but i am gonna be short and sweet since many others had great insightful replies during this thread,whatever your trying to say here just leave it at it,it doesnt matter buddy,its pointless,we are all open minded individuals here we all have our own inner path, experiences and level of counsciousness,trying to force fed your own experiences beliefs concepts or realizations of what the truth maybe wont do much for you,not to mention that your truth maybe different then my truth and are both right?See this subject is so complex that does that,when you start to get into the way some people do instead of adding positive things only creates more confusion,let people think what they want to think and follow what resonates with them,the path back to one's own higher self ha MANY roads and they all lead to the same destination,i am sure your wise enough to know that!

[Mu2143]

Well it is also here to freely express our self when we feel like it, just like everyone else. When your doing that you can hardly force some one not to. Its information what ever a person wants to do with it, Burn it , make wall paper out it, ignore it etc.
I already expressed what I have found out about the Law of One and it is still always up to the person him self what he or she does with it

So the last reply is just to correct some ones belief about me not to able to express my self ,because he thinks I have a languages issue when its clearly a consciousness issue on his side.

Which is core problem of all things , because it is sure not the information that is lacking on the Internet. Er is enough information to put it together ,but you can't never connect the dots without the spirit. Because the brain is just a Super Computer that only processes information and does not no the difference between A lie and the truth. Some how some people still do not understand this! But its very imported for everyone who wants to become more aware to move forward unless your planning not to.

Before the fall Of Atlantis which fell multiple times before that we did not need to think, but simple knew the answer. What is left of knowing is thinking and it is a lot slower for access the spirit to what is true when looking at the information from the outside. Which mean it takes time and dedication to recollect the truth again which all of us have always known.

You have to re read ,listen over and over again till your fully grasp what the person is telling you. finding out who is really trying to deceive you is imported if you think this is not!! then don't even try to think.

Just like your computer it never can become aware or more aware and it is the same rules that applies to your brain.

[john.d]

Ah at last i get where your coming from ..... everyone on this thread has a 'consciousness issue' ..... apart from you of course
Mental note .... must try harder .....

John

[RedeZra]

Carla's Ra is most likely an invention of the imaginative mind of Carla

She has a fantastic artistic mind which she pens down on paper and in so makes a living

Just because she calls it channeling does not imply that we turn her science fiction into science fact


if we have this tendency in turning fiction into facts - then the walls of the maze we are in have just grown an inch thicker and higher - and we will have a harder time getting the Truth that will set us free

[Anchor]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
Carla's Ra is most likely an invention of the imaginative mind of Carla

She has a fantastic artistic mind which she pens down on paper and in so makes a living

Here I see your opinion but I disagree with it.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
Just because she calls it channeling does not imply that we turn her science fiction into science fact

if we have this tendency in turning fiction into facts - then the walls of the maze we are in have just grown an inch thicker and higher - and we will have a harder time getting the Truth that will set us free

Here I see your wisdom, and I agree with it.

Discrimination and discernment are mandatory.

John..

[RedeZra]

Posted by John (here)
Here I see your opinion but I disagree with it.

tnx John yes it's an opinion based on my believes research and experiences - but I will not defend it to the death... it's just 2 cents from my golden pockets lol

[Swami]

The Law of One books were channeled by Carla Rueckert, Don Elkins, and Jim McCarty between 1981 and 1984.

How far was technology in those days....?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6eTdwDHE81g

Don Elkins

Don Elkins was born in Louisville, Kentucky in 1930. He held a B.S and M.S in Mechanical Engineering, and a Ph.D in philosophy from an English university, was Professor of Physics and Engineering at the University of Louisville for twelve years, and founder and head of the University of Alaska’s mechanical engineering department in 1960–61. He served with distinction in the US Army during the Korean War. In 1965 he left his position as tenured professor in order to give himself more time for UFO and paranormal research, and became a Boeing 727 pilot, eventually Captain, for Eastern Airlines until his death by suicide on November 7, 1984.

In 1955 Elkins began using age regression hypnosis to research reincarnation. He talked with and visited UFO contactees all over the United States, often piloting his own small plane, and investigated the many areas of paranormal study into which UFOs led him through the years, corresponding with and visiting a wide variety of scholars and researchers as well as experiencers, abductees and many others defying categorization throughout his very active career as a researcher.

At the time of his death Elkins was deep into the study of the Ra Material, a lengthy and complex series of channeled teachings that had begun in January 1981 and which he had been researching with Carla Rueckert and James McCarty. There are reports of negative psychological interferences having developed during this latter investigation.

Alaska...?
Suicide...?
http://projectcamelot.org/elkins.html

James McCarty

James McCarty was born in 1947 in Kearney, Nebraska. After receiving an undergraduate degrees from the University of Nebraska at Kearney and an M.S. in Early Childhood Education from the University of Florida, Jim moved to a piece of wilderness in Marion County, Kentucky, to build his own log cabin in the woods and to develop a self-sufficient lifestyle. For the next six years, he was in almost complete retreat. He founded the Rock Creek Research and Development Laboratories in 1977 to further his teaching efforts. After experimenting, decided that he preferred the methods and directions he had found in studying with L/L Research in 1978 and 1979. In 1980, he joined his research with Don’s and Carla’s and the legal entity that we are now comes from this joining of Jim’s non-profit charity, The Rock Creek Research and Development Laboratories, with L/L Research in 1982. We use Rock Creek as our legal name, and do business as L/L Research. Jim and Carla were married in 1987. Jim has a wide L/L correspondence and creates wonderful gardens and stonework. He enjoys history, beauty, nature, dance and silence. With Carla, he participates in L/L’s channeling.

http://www.llresearch.org/authors.aspx

[NeoEmc2]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)
The Law of One is designed by the PTB to make people follow does teaching blindly.
If this is the case then I simple drop it and go to some one else who is trued full and listen and discern that information.

This is really funny Mu2143!

I find it funny because it tells me you haven't even bothered to read the material. The books are full of wonderful information regarding the evolution of the mind, body and spirit. From reading the books I've picked up many wonderful gems of information that have taught me to see the universe and other beings in a positive light.

The law of one teaches that Everything is one. That there is no separation, only unity and that unity is love/light - light/love.

How does that sound negative?

Before you call something Lucefarian I would suggest to you to provide examples to support your comments.

And for those of you who are not familiar with the law of one here's a little excerpt to give you a little taste of the awesomeness found in the books.

What is the Law of One?
Quoted from the text. Book one, Session one:

"Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define the infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.