The Bible

[RedeZra]

this is literal

it means what it says

"I [am] He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. - Revelation 1:18


And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. - Matthew 28:18

[RedeZra]

WARNING

there are prophetic rumors on the net

about an earthquake tsunami event

which will hit the west coast of North America

and perhaps the east coast too ?

this April


investigate

Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. - Amos 3:7

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ptbefxuB-54

[gripreaper]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

WARNING

there are prophetic rumors on the net about an earthquake tsunami event which will hit the west coast of North America and perhaps the east coast too ? this April investigate

Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. - Amos 3:7

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ptbefxuB-54

So, this is now legitimate prophesy because some gal on a You Tube "has a vision" and she asked for a sign and supposedly got it? Therefore this makes for a legitimate warning about an impending tsunami covering the whole of the USA from east coast to west coast, killing hundreds of thousands of people? This is supposed to be a warning to us to repent? (Please don't answer that last sentence)

So therefore, we should be filled with trepidation and fear and abdicate our will to your subjective viewpoint and the mandates of an oligarchical elite power structure as written in the bible, and do what? Give my life to Jesus? Or is it really giving over my power to this elite patriarchal power game as manifested over the last several thousand years?

Why should I listen to this channel and not Greg Giles, or the Galactic Federation of Light, or Poof, or SaLuSa or many of the others who are purveyors of imminent world changes and their rescue plans? What is the difference between these current channels and the channel in Revelations who is selling the same fear and doom and gloom, and an escape plan?

Don't tell me that the one's you subscribe to are the inspired word of god and everything else is not, unless you quantify your statement with "In my opinion". Why does it feel like being baited.

[RedeZra]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

So, this is now legitimate prophesy because some gal on a You Tube "has a vision" and she asked for a sign and supposedly got it? Therefore this makes for a legitimate warning about an impending tsunami covering the whole of the USA from east coast to west coast, killing hundreds of thousands of people?

investigate or ignore

this gal is not alone soundin the alarm


Nibiru is real and probably the cause of these earth changes

there was a big quake March last year and Feb the year before

so April this year makes sense


investigate or ignore

[gripreaper]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
investigate or ignore

That's pretty simple. Does it come from a place of fear energetically? Yup.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
this gal is not alone soundin the alarm

Well that's good, we wouldn't want her to have to bring such vitally important information into the public's consciousness all by herself, now would we?

Posted by RedeZra (here)
Nibiru is real and probably the cause of these earth changes

Yea, and it's coming our way and it's going to cause massive electromagnetic changes and we are all doomed to pole shifts, electromagnetic pulses from the sun, volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunami's, etc. Anything else you want to throw into the mix?

Posted by RedeZra (here)
there was a big quake March last year and Feb the year before, so April this year makes sense

Ok, so Feb one year, March the next, so the logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that a major earthquake over the entire North American continent is coming in April of this year to wipe out most of the population, so this is "last call" to get on board the "savior and rapture" belief system before it is too late?

RedeZra, you can't really be serious can you?

[RedeZra]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

RedeZra, you can't really be serious can you?

no i'm just scaring you

this is not the end of the age

so there will be no cataclysmic events


life on earth will go on forever and ever

while evil leads the way

and we will all conform


after all we are just advanced chimps or perhaps lab rats

so we answer to nobody unless it is aliens

my turn to jump

[gripreaper]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
no i'm just scaring you

As I've said before, fear is generated in the first chakra, when one pulls their root chakra out of the grounding of the earth and thus short circuits their energy field, causing the energy to have no where to land. These are the sensations which one feels when they go into fear. To mitigate this, breathe in and intention grounding, or go work in your garden for a few hours and get your hands dirty and get some sunshine. The peace and joy available once the fear is grounded is immeasurable.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
this is not the end of the age

This is the end of the age, as Yeshua said: "I will be with you till the end of the age". He was talking about the Picean age, before the arrival of the Aquarian age, as referenced in the 26,000 year Precession of the Equinoxes. You can look into this by studying astrotheology and archeology.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
life on earth will go on forever and ever, while evil leads the way, and we will all conform

There are many other threads on this forum which discuss the possibilities for the new paradigm which is emerging, and it is based on the raising of consciousness and letting go of old outdated belief structures which keep one in bondage to the elite Roman patriarchal control dynamics. So, prophesy is just one potential outcome based on what could happen if nothing changes, but due to free will, we choose the outcome of our futures. Many see an incredible awesome future ahead and not one of suffering and fear and control, but of beauty, compassion and love. Evil will not lead the way and I will not conform.

What type of future do you want? You are the creator of this future and you have the power to change it. Just go within and be in the still point and realize how powerful you are.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
after all we are just advanced chimps or perhaps lab rats

Not true. If you study the ancient texts pre-deluge, you will discover that we are an amalgamation of many star systems and are the greatest promulgation in the entire cosmos. If we just had the faith of a mustard seed, greater things will we do than Yeshua did, like raise the dead (since he showed death is an illusion), heal the sick, feed the poor, etc.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
so we answer to nobody unless it is aliens

Answer to yourself. You are so powerful if you will go within and access you power. Don't buy into the fear mongering and control dynamics of the belief that you are damaged goods and need a savior. True joy and peace can be yours from such a realization.

Posted by RedeZra (here)
my turn to jump

No need to jump. After all, this is your thread.

[RedeZra]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

As I've said before, fear is generated in the first chakra, when one pulls their root chakra out of the grounding of the earth and thus short circuits their energy field, causing the energy to have no where to land. These are the sensations which one feels when they go into fear. To mitigate this, breathe in and intention grounding, or go work in your garden for a few hours and get your hands dirty and get some sunshine. The peace and joy available once the fear is grounded is immeasurable.

well warning is not fear

and our US coastal members can work the garden

after they have looked into this

and perhaps prepared a gone in 1 min bag

[RedeZra]

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WEST COAST ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BUEWPTcUvc

[RedeZra]

there is a God

of course there is

God of gods and men

Infinite Pure Spirit


and a Son of God

of course there is

Son of God among sons and daughters

and children of men


know your place

raise in praise and reverence

God is Holy


He will provide

for those who trust Him



be bold as the eagle

dive that cliff

fall from on high

into faith in God


and be free

[New Dawn]

Ugh this thread...Please make it stop.

[RedeZra]

Nibiru and Anunnaki

Zecharia Sitchin published his Nibiru book The 12th Planet in 1976 after some highly subjective interpretations of Sumerian mythology

he concluded that a planet Nibiru comes close to home every 3600 years and is inhabited by an advanced extraterrestrial race

the Annunaki of Sumer are the same as the Nephilim in the Bible accordin to Sitchin

furthermore he figured out that the Annunaki genetically engineered humans by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of Homo erectus


today there are some serious rumors about an incomin planet and alien visitation

but it's not possible to jump to Sitchin's conclusions based on the public records of Sumerian texts and artefacts

so how did he get his ideas ?



planet X has been postulated since the discovery of Neptune in 1846 because of the discrepancies in its orbit

in the early 1970’s scientists began to formulate hypothesis to the size location orbit and distance of Planet X based on the mysterious deviations in the orbit of Haley’s Comet


Robert Sutton Harrington worked at the United States Naval Observatory and had calculated size and orbit of planet X which could explain the irregular paths of Neptune and Uranus

Dr Harrington says the most remarkable feature predicted for Planet X is that its orbit is tilted 30 degrees away from the ecliptic, the main plane of the solar system, where all previous searches have concentrated. His models also predict a greater distance from the Sun, about 10 billion miles, or between two or three times as distant as Pluto.

By analyzing time-lapse photographs using the "blink comparison" technique, originated by famed Pluto discoverer, Clyde Tombaugh, Dr. Harrington proved that Planet X was indeed inbound into our Solar System. Harrington sent back reports of this ominous discovery, but died of what was reported to be esophageal cancer before he could pack up his telescope and come home to hold what would have been a highly publicized press conference.

The source below indicates that Harrington began the search at Black Birch in April, 1991, two years before his death. However, considering the painstaking process of trying to find a distant needle in a very large haystack, two years is not much time at all.

http://yowusa.com/planetx/2008/planetx-2008-05b/1.shtml



it is possible that Zecharia Sitchin got his Nibiru idea from the work of Harrington but it does not explain his hypothesis about Nibiru being inhabited by the Annunaki of Sumer

what did he put in his pipe to come to this conclusion ?



Sitchin is one of the founders of the ancient aliens or astronauts theory which maintain that humans are either descendants or creations of extraterrestrial beings who landed on Earth thousands of years ago

and that much of human knowledge religion and culture came from extraterrestrial visitors in ancient times


so Sitchin is not exactly Scriptural

since Scripture says that what Sitchin calls ancient aliens from another planet are fallen angels from another dimension

Scripture hints to a comeback of these fallen angels and Sitchin speaks of a return of the Anunnaki


so who are those that came from heaven and are about to return ?

fallen angels or ancestor aliens

that's a huge difference

and you got to choose

[RedeZra]

prophets of God will not tell nice things or sweet lies

so shut your ears and close your eyes to them

and listen to those that praise wickedness



'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.

And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. - Acts 2:17-18

the volcanos Shasta Adams St Helens Rainier as seen in a vision

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LA3uqh3tHBs

"Behold, I [am] against you, O inhabitant of the valley, [And] rock of the plain," says the LORD, "Who say, 'Who shall come down against us? Or who shall enter our dwellings?'

But I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings," says the LORD; "I will kindle a fire in its forest, And it shall devour all things around it." ' " - Jeremiah 21:13-14

[RedeZra]

a man of God is filled with the Holy Spirit

children of the devil are full of demons




Get filled with the Holy Spirit

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Ecakeusaks

[observer]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
let the Bible speak

to inform and explore what the Book says about our origin history and purpose

In your OP, Red, you suggest "to explore".

With each comment I've made in this thread, I have suggested an exploration that draws contrary conclusions to your faith based theology. I've offered scientifically discovered evidence found throughout the archaeological record.

You have chosen not to pursue those discoveries, and instead present 'evidence' that is faith based, i.e. fundamentalist Christians cherry-picking dubious archaeological research designed to prove a predetermined conclusion.

This type of evidence only supports your faith. It, in no way, supports the truth.

Throughout this thread I have suggested the Bible was contrived as a political tool designed to sustain the Roman Empire into the twenty first century disguised as the Holy Roman Empire (Catholicism - the wealthiest, most powerful single entity on the planet today).

Had one followed any of the links I've already given, any critically thinking individual would have come to the same conclusion.

Well, here's one more link that demonstrates how the Old Testament was edited and rewritten during the fourth, fifth, and sixth centuries, BCE in an attempt to use the Yahwist template to control the Hebrew nation:
"Who Wrote The Bible" -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SCXlFWBcxBo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SCXlF...ure=plpp_video

Please take note, the majority of evidence found in the archaeological record indicates most of the Torah, and the subsequent books that make-up the Old Testament, were compiled and edited from 600 to 400 BCE. No original Torah text exists before this time period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
This is a span of nearly one thousand years from the time theologians claim Moses received this alleged 'word of God'. (Most theologians date the time of the Exodus to around 1500 BCE.) One will find most Biblical scholars agree the five books of the Torah attributed to Moses came from four different ancient sources. (See the documentary, "Who Wrote The Bible" - above)

One thousand years is a long time to remember exactly what happened. As I've previously pointed-out, there is no archaeological record of Hebrews ever being slaves in Egypt - another great manipulation of the facts.

Posted by observer (here)
Click-on the forwarding arrow for full text of the comment, and associated links

....also see this link:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ris3YCcmYk

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ris3YCcmYk


Since you, Red, and the other Bible supporters in this thread refuse to look at the science, might I suggest "Little Red Riding Hood" as another excellent source of moral fantasy and faith.

I prefer to find my Truth in the physical evidence. Upholding the illusions of the Holy Roman Empire is not my idea of hard physical evidence....

In conclusion to your persistence on this forum I would like to register my complaint regarding the nature of your comments:
Were the subject of your threads based on any topic - other than the Bible - your habitual suggesting those who don't agree with your faith based theories should be damned to your understanding of Hell.... these types of comments should be judged by the moderators as threatening and inflammatory. This threatening rhetoric is inherent in your belief system, and I emphasize "belief"'.

I can't believe the moderators have not stepped-in and admonished you for this behavior.

This is supposed to be a forum designed to explore intelligent debate. Threatening those who disagree by suggesting an eternal damnation in Hell is unsupported by the evidence and offensive. This behavior should not be tolerated, regardless of the subject.

[RedeZra]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)
let the Bible speak

to inform and explore what the Book says about our origin history and purpose

In your OP, Red, you suggest "to explore".

With each comment I've made in this thread, I have suggested an exploration that draws contrary conclusions to your faith based theology. I've offered scientifically discovered evidence found throughout the archaeological record.

you don't seem to understand that the PTB who are in control of this world suppress truths and feed lies

which you are good at picking and then regurgitate

Posted by observer (here)
In conclusion to your persistence on this forum I would like to register my complaint regarding the nature of your comments:
Were the subject of your threads based on any topic - other than the Bible - your habitual suggesting those who don't agree with your faith based theories should be damned to your understanding of Hell.... these types of comments should be judged by the moderators as threatening and inflammatory. This threatening rhetoric is inherent in your belief system, and I emphasize "belief"'.

I can't believe the moderators have not stepped-in and admonished you for this behavior.

This is supposed to be a forum designed to explore intelligent debate. Threatening those who disagree by suggesting an eternal damnation in Hell is unsupported by the evidence and offensive. This behavior should not be tolerated, regardless of the subject.

you seem to fear the message in the Bible and so you want to suppress and censor Scripture

you don't want Jesus and you don't want Hell

you want your own personal god made in your image


i'm sorry but i can't accommodate your requests

[gripreaper]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
you don't seem to understand that the PTB who are in control of this world suppress truths and feed lies which you are good at picking and then regurgitate. you seem to fear the message in the Bible and so you want to suppress and censor Scripture. you don't want Jesus and you don't want Hell. you want your own personal god made in your image. i'm sorry but i can't accommodate your requests

Wow RedeZra, your level of subjective arrogance is astounding. How can you make such suppositions as to know what others want and don't want?

[RedeZra]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Wow RedeZra, your level of subjective arrogance is astounding. How can you make such suppositions as to know what others want and don't want?

by the sword of discernment

[Ariel]

Good reply!

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Posted by Beren (here)
Let us just be fair in observation and see that everything in this reality is hijacked.
Bible is a s hijacked as other works from God were. God worked and works through many forms and people ,God can't be limited but we are limiting it towards our understanding and through our filters.

How could a shepherd or fisherman from some thousands years ago explain frequencies, teleportation,telekinesis , telepathy ...?

What Ezekiel saw ... how possibly he could grasp what he was seeing???

Why angels appeared as humans - otherwise they would never comprehend their true form in that low level of consciousness.

So many questions... but before we judge so readily the Bible as well as many other books and works ,let us realize that we will judge ourselves for after all we allowed that establishment through time to become as it is now.

They forged every work that leads people back to God but that didn't stop God for calling us back.
God is still calling us back and Bible is one of the many invitations for the core message is intact.

Love this!

[heyokah]

I think RedeZra is going for the longest thread on Avalon, teasing us, serious members, with his "Biblical Wonders" like a Jehovah's Witness keeping his foot in the door....
When nobody is giving any response, he starts preaching HIS believes again and again, posting on his own thread as if he has nothing else to do than keeping the thread alive, taking up space on the front page of the forum.

Is this TROLLING or just a matter of EGO ?



Just my morning reflection....