Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Billy]

when you are living a life from a loving heart with intentions towards service to others, you do this with the knowledge that you are part of the universal collective, therefore the self heals and grows while being in service to others because you are assisting the collective as a whole.

Peace

[Chester]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by viking (here)

We all need to start thinking STO and not STS, and looking at the bigger picture...your statement smacks STS ... perhaps you worded it not quite how you wanted to? yes?

A wise one I met through this forum suggested to me in an e-mail once, that everything anyone does boils down to service to self. And I thought about that. She pointed out Mother Teresa, in all her good deeds, did so in service to a call within herself.

I found that insight quite profound.

Gripreaper points out (at least this is what I got from the core point amongst his many points) that unless we clean up our own house, how can we really be any good for anyone else?

So I am in the camp of "clean your own mess up first, Chester, and then maybe you can help clean up others" (without imposing my parasitically infested everything upon everyone else).

A tough one indeed. justoneman

The further you go down this rabbit hole the more helpful it is to see that STO and STS are basically two sides of the same coin.

The more your consciousness perspective evolves, the more you are neither one or the other but remain in Service to the one infinite creation, in which you are, of course, a component part.

A purified, positive being if they offer service to themselves will actually be in service to others because in that purity - it is the same thing. The main thing that matters is your intent. If you intend to feed and take care of yourself (a service to self) so you can live another day in the service of others then clearly the ultimate service is to others.

Mother Theresa - in my opinion - was serving the Christ within her as well as the Christ within those of whom she served - she served her lord, personified for her as Jesus.

"By blood, I am Albanian. By citizenship, an Indian. By faith, I am a Catholic nun. As to my calling, I belong to the world. As to my heart, I belong entirely to the Heart of Jesus."

I would not therefore describe Mother Theresa as STS, simply because it is obvious to me that she was not polarized that way at all.

You nailed the issue - "describe" - my intent was not to discribe, but instead point to something which words cannot describe, which is the paradox underneath the matter of STS/STO.

The point being to use words STS or STO inherently creates those two groups. Imagine if we all incarnated in a world/time and place where there was no lie and no one brought in any lie? Words like STO and STS would never come forth. Perhaps we would be so evolved that we would naturally not even need words and instead communicate via telepathy.

Can't we see how the development of words and of writing may not necessarily have been advancements?

But we have what we have. Perhaps if we could go back to an earlier time (or absorb the "how/why" behind the functionality of some of what we call "indigenous cultures", exemplified by some of these still in existence today), we might see how we have continued to descend, fall, grow down... you choose your metaphor, despite our apparent rise in "intellect" and rise in technological prowess.

Three examples - the first brought forth through Amzer Zo a day or so ago and I cannot find the link (I will edit this post if Amzer Zo PMs me the link).

First Example:

In this example, the population of the Island Simeulue survived the December 26, 2004 tsunami. Some reports indicate they were taught that if you see an unusually low tide, head for the hills - but that MSM explanation did not explain that they began their retreat well before the earthquake occurred that caused the tsunami. It also does not explain why, for example, the buffalos did the same.

Here is an article about this which, if you have become adept at reading between the lines, reveals so much about our "advanced techno- culture" of today in that a.) despite all our technological prowess, we could not predict, in time, this event such that we could warn folks of what was coming but even more of a point may be, if we did indeed have that sort of technology, would we have the infrastructure in place and the retreat protocols in place such that a most successful evacuation could occur? And an even more to the point question is, would those we have placed in positions of authority from which warnings would come forth, would warn the general population in the first place?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-664729.html

Second Example:

I watched a video that likely was recommended somewhere on this forum. It was a video made by a French gentleman from the first world who ventured into the jungle (New Guinea) and discovered an interesting tribe that had never before seen a "modern man" and he was able to capture this encounter in film. It was fascinating. I recall thinking many times how we have grown down so much while watching this video. Maybe I am the only one to think that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7a7IaS3ml4g

Third Example:

My memory is poor and I am unable to recall any searchable details and thus unable to locate this other video I watched where there was a modern man encounter with an island tribe in which he discovered they did not have a word for "Hello" nor "Goodbye."

What did that suggest to me? Well, from observing everything I could in this video, it appeared to me that this tribe was existing within a dynamic within which there was no apparent point of view of the individual self and others. They existed in such a manner that their point of view appeared to be simply as an experiencer within an all connected realm. They appeared to never have developed the us/them dynamic. I had the profound recollection of when I existed in that type of dynamic. I never considered "me" or "someone else." I just experienced all in a simple, all connected flow where somehow I just naturally performed bodily tasks that seemed to benefit the all, such as going fishing and bringing back what I caught for all, such as singing, such as dancing, and such as making love.

Where did we lose this understanding in our journey in developing our world? Can we get the valuables back while at the same time experiencing such vast technological prowess? I think we can, and the odds are we will never throw away technology, thus I believe we must.

justoneman

[9eagle9]

Service to others all too often turns into servitude to others.

Energy alignment is effortless, energy is always ready to align, without resistant, and servitude is resistance; one learns how to align that energy, and service to others is without effort and one is often unaware they are doing anything of service at all--which keeps the ego out of things. And the servitude.

More people create an inspiration for me being who they really are, rather than what they are doing.

The ptb have to put a lot of effort into keeping the matrix in place, that is why they found a way for us to make our own prison.

Authentic em-POWER-ment makes things effortless. Powerful people do things much more effortlessly than people who aren't powerful--basic observation.

[bennycog]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
People will be getting married and having babies in here next!

I laughed at that...and then I got scared it might happen.

hehe how would that scare youimagine what two avalonian souls could produce
hmm avalon dating service might be the next big thing lol

[Chester]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
Hi Ishtar - is my "Spirit Guide" the same as my "Spirtual Higher Self"? or is my "Spirit Guide" a separate entity

Good question, justone.

I can only say from my experience, and that is No. That's because my main spirit guide in the Upper World is more like my partner, my counterpart, as we complement each other in a kind of male/female way. Whereas I have also met my Higher Self, if you want to call her that, and she is like a super version of me in every way, and she seems to be carving out my path through this life.

Thanks all for your very kind birthday wishes. I really do appreciate it. I was thinking ... I've spent so much of the last year in the Drake thread that it is entirely appropriate to celebrate my birthday in it. People will be getting married and having babies in here next!

Thank You, Ishtar. This means a lot to me because I had that view as well and I have come to highly respect your views. Just to explain why I have struggled with this is because I had a great deal of difficulty since I was a child with regards to the messages that came to me from within.

Based on information I obtained from this forum, I was able to sort out that perhaps some of the inner conversations I have had have been via one or more of the following:

a.) voices from "nefarious" non physical entities

b.) one or more physical implants placed inside me for purposes unkown

c.) one or more voices I developed due to unwise, long term, high dosage experiments with drugs (cocaine and marijuana and alcohol) which allowed a corruption of my inner conversations with either my Spiritual Higher Self, my Spirit Guide or the possibility mentioned in a.) allowance of an entry and/or attachment of one or more entities which did not necessarily have my best interests at heart.

d.) simply pure delusions though this is hard to accept based on my multiple experiences in this lifetime but most specifically the two and only two "premonition" experiences I had which were predicting 9/11 and then 7/7 (both I have well documented in several posts on this forum).

e.) something I have yet been able to understand.

I will add that within the last two or so weeks, in large part due to some posts found on Houman's Horus-Ra thread and specifically the posts of Finefeather and the subsequent PMs I was able to enjoy with Finefeather, I have experienced a rapid and profound shift in point of view that has truly transcended my anger which has resulted in my dropping of my victim-hood.

The odds are low I will ever visit "the victim" realm again (at least in this lifetime).

Please, make any comments, Ishtar, as well as anyone else, of course. I love this new life I have developed where I can change my mind in a heart beat... where my point of view is constantly changing. Strangely and for the first time in my life, I finally feel I am headed somewhere instead of going round and round in circles.

justone

[9eagle9]

It depends . There's some smart cookies in here that would produce a right girt multidimensional offspring.

And some who would contribute to putting what could best be described as organic fence posts out into the gene pool.

"Shut up you little brat, don't you know Drake is on the radio!"

[Eric J (Viking)]

STO some good information here ... I think he explained it very well.

There is so much material available that can assist Us in making ourselves eligible for the Harvest, but there is no one all-encompassing document. You find a bit here, you find a bit there, you piece it together, like a Quilt or a Tapestry. At some point, we stand back, take a look and realize that all of the squares in our Quilt say the same thing, in different ways:


Live to Serve Others.


This is a MAJOR KEY. It is THAT simple. In every Interaction, Confrontation, Chance Meeting, we have to LIVE in that moment and Learn to say Silently within ourselves:


"What can I do in this moment to Serve this Other-Self in a Positive Way?".


We don't have to wash their feet. It could be something as simple as giving them a Smile! Or allowing someone to take your place in line. Or give that beggar a dollar, a child a hug. No matter how uncouth, rude and uncaring another person may be, our Duty is not to help Create negative interactions, but instead, to Radiate Love and Understanding that the other person will feel long after you have both parted ways.


We should also learn to think Positive Thoughts when presented with Negative stimuli such as Television news, Cable Television shows, etc. Better yet, we should avoid these Stimuli altogether as they are purposely designed to lower our vibrations (sadness, fear, anger, envy, etc.). Let's face it..have you ever seen "Happy News"?? Our Controllers are in charge, and are working overtime to ensure that as few of us "graduate" as possible.


The worst things that we can do are to Believe that


-- We are Powerless

-- Our Thoughts have no Power

-- We cannot change our Behavior


I'm here to tell you that the answers to those False Beliefs are No...Not True...and Yes We Can.


It's not easy, but it CAN be done. Whether it's the cashier checking you out at the grocery store, your fellow commuter on the bus, other total strangers, your family, whoever...!! Try to recognize that each confrontation is an Opportunity to expand the Energy of Love on this Planet, thereby Helping You, your fellow Man AND the Planet.


Darn it, I don't think that I've explained this as well as I could have, but I hope my point gets across. WE have the power to touch the lives of Others, change Ourselves and assist the Earth in time for the Events that are about to unfold.


Believe. Know. Act.


All Love,


~~ G

time-to-choose.blogspot.com/2009/06/service-to-others-is-key.html

~~~~~~~~

viking

[Sebastion]

Please by all means, tell me "who" or "what" is going to decide if I am ready to be "harvested"? I haven't given permission to anyone or anything to pass "judgement" over me and never will! Ya'all can if you want to.....

Posted by viking (here)
STO some good information here ... I think he explained it very well.

There is so much material available that can assist Us in making ourselves eligible for the Harvest, but there is no one all-encompassing document. You find a bit here, you find a bit there, you piece it together, like a Quilt or a Tapestry. At some point, we stand back, take a look and realize that all of the squares in our Quilt say the same thing, in different ways:


Live to Serve Others.


This is a MAJOR KEY. It is THAT simple. In every Interaction, Confrontation, Chance Meeting, we have to LIVE in that moment and Learn to say Silently within ourselves:


"What can I do in this moment to Serve this Other-Self in a Positive Way?".


We don't have to wash their feet. It could be something as simple as giving them a Smile! Or allowing someone to take your place in line. Or give that beggar a dollar, a child a hug. No matter how uncouth, rude and uncaring another person may be, our Duty is not to help Create negative interactions, but instead, to Radiate Love and Understanding that the other person will feel long after you have both parted ways.


We should also learn to think Positive Thoughts when presented with Negative stimuli such as Television news, Cable Television shows, etc. Better yet, we should avoid these Stimuli altogether as they are purposely designed to lower our vibrations (sadness, fear, anger, envy, etc.). Let's face it..have you ever seen "Happy News"?? Our Controllers are in charge, and are working overtime to ensure that as few of us "graduate" as possible.


The worst things that we can do are to Believe that


-- We are Powerless

-- Our Thoughts have no Power

-- We cannot change our Behavior


I'm here to tell you that the answers to those False Beliefs are No...Not True...and Yes We Can.


It's not easy, but it CAN be done. Whether it's the cashier checking you out at the grocery store, your fellow commuter on the bus, other total strangers, your family, whoever...!! Try to recognize that each confrontation is an Opportunity to expand the Energy of Love on this Planet, thereby Helping You, your fellow Man AND the Planet.


Darn it, I don't think that I've explained this as well as I could have, but I hope my point gets across. WE have the power to touch the lives of Others, change Ourselves and assist the Earth in time for the Events that are about to unfold.


Believe. Know. Act.


All Love,


~~ G

time-to-choose.blogspot.com/2009/06/service-to-others-is-key.html

~~~~~~~~

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

You will be judged whether you like it or not me old mucker...we all will be... perhaps God will have a say ...no? LOL

Anyway I highligted what I thought was relevent...

viking

[Sebastion]

Judgement does NOT exist in higher states of consciousness for there is no one and no thing to pass judgement. Been there, seen that, done that. Don't believe me? Get out of your body and go see for yourself, it isn't that hard...ask Anotherbob, NancyV, Jake, Sirdipswitch and others, then you will KNOW for yourself!

Posted by viking (here)
You will be judged whether you like it or not me old mucker...we all will be... perhaps God will have a say ...no? LOL

Anyway I highligted what I thought was relevent...

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Judgement does NOT exist in higher states of consciousness for there is no one and no thing to pass judgement. Been there, seen that, done that. Don't believe me? Get out of your body and go see for yourself, it isn't that hard...ask Anotherbob, NancyV, Jake, Sirdipswitch and others, then you will KNOW for yourself!

Posted by viking (here)
You will be judged whether you like it or not me old mucker...we all will be... perhaps God will have a say ...no? LOL

Anyway I highligted what I thought was relevent...

viking

Whatever Seb...

Its not my place to judge anyone here 'Judge Not, Lest Ye Not Be Judged'

But, from a higher source what happens to all the murderers/rapists/thieves/ of this world ... do you not think that they will be somehow judged, and if they haven't learnt their lessons, then perhaps they will go back into the stirring pot once again...

viking

[Eram]

Posted by viking (here)

But, from a higher source what happens to all the murderers/rapists/thieves/ of this world ... do you not think that they will be somehow judged

viking

Do we have a free will or do we not?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yep we sure do...doesn't mean to say murdering is ok though...

This is a freewill planet, we can all do as we please.

viking

[Eram]

Posted by viking (here)
Yep we sure do...doesn't mean to say murdering is ok though...

This is a freewill planet, we can all do as we please.

viking

How is living our lives with the sword of judgement hanging over our heads 'free will' ?

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by viking (here)

But, from a higher source what happens to all the murderers/rapists/thieves/ of this world ... do you not think that they will be somehow judged, and if they haven't learnt their lessons, then perhaps they will go back into the stirring pot once again...

Aw shucks Ma, I've done all those things over the eons, and so too has probably everyone here. The only judging that goes on is of ourselves, including the light side, and boy do we spare no quarter on THAT front. Whew...

Then in the end, the prisoner realizes he could have simply walked out of his self induced jail cell any time he wanted all along, and him and the "jailers" have a good laugh at that one over a couple of frosty cold beers.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by viking (here)
Yep we sure do...doesn't mean to say murdering is ok though...

This is a freewill planet, we can all do as we please.

viking

How is living our lives with the sword of judgement hanging over our heads 'free will' ?

Well thats easy...you can live with the knowledge of judgement anytime, surely...doesn't mean you don't have freewill...

If you want to steal something from another person, you can. Hey it still recorded on your life plan.

We can do what we want here on this planet, but we are given a set of rules to go by...its up to the individual to accept the rules or not.

The laws of creation are clearly stated, they are for all to acknowledge. We all know what happen if we rape and pillage mother Earth...trust me she'll kick arse one way or another if it carries on. Perhaps we are past the tipping point..??

viking

[Eram]

Posted by viking (here)
Well thats easy...you can live with the knowledge of judgement anytime, surely...doesn't mean you don't have freewill...

If you want to steal something from another person, you can. Hey it still recorded on your life plan.

We can do what we want here on this planet, but we are given a set of rules to go by...its up to the individual to accept the rules or not.

The laws of creation are clearly stated, they are for all to acknowledge. We all know what happen if we rape and pillage mother Earth...trust me she'll kick arse one way or another if it carries on. Perhaps we are past the tipping point..??

viking

It seems to me that you have made your mind up about things, so arguing you would be a dead end street in my opinion.

If you read your post again it is easy to see that you contradict yourself though.

Freedom is total and can not be conditional!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by viking (here)
Well thats easy...you can live with the knowledge of judgement anytime, surely...doesn't mean you don't have freewill...

If you want to steal something from another person, you can. Hey it still recorded on your life plan.

We can do what we want here on this planet, but we are given a set of rules to go by...its up to the individual to accept the rules or not.

The laws of creation are clearly stated, they are for all to acknowledge. We all know what happen if we rape and pillage mother Earth...trust me she'll kick arse one way or another if it carries on. Perhaps we are past the tipping point..??

viking

It seems to me that you have made your mind up about things, so arguing you would be a dead end street in my opinion.

If you read your post again it is easy to see that you contradict yourself though.

Freedom is total and can not be conditional!

It seems to me that you have made up your mind as well...but no worries...

Freedom is total for each individual...no conditions...but common sense rules.

Hey I understand we are all on differing paths...accept this, I do.

viking

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Hey I understand we are all on differing paths...accept this, I do.

Sounds like you do not take the dear sir Waky very serious when you ask him to accept this without even knowing the man, thats a pretty high horse you are on now Viking.

Not standing up for him, he sounds like he is quite capable of sticking up for himself but i noticed a slight condescending undertone in that quote, could be i am just sensitive in that way off course.

regards

665

[Chester]

Posted by viking (here)
You will be judged whether you like it or not me old mucker...we all will be... perhaps God will have a say ...no? LOL

Anyway I highligted what I thought was relevent...

viking

You had me agreeing with the "Live to Give" attitude... when I employ that attitude, I get the most out of life (wow seems strangely selfish too?) "Huh, justoneconfused?" "Well, you have already tried to make that point earlier... no need to beat a dead horse," the inner voice says.

But then this post and you lose me totally - some outside agency is going to "judge" me?

Please, viking... please.

justone who is only judged by himself, and even that is a bit dangerous