Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Daughter of Time]

Justone,

I have not checked the links you posted here for lack of time. But I will in due course.

I'm wondering why you willingly subjected yourself to being implanted. And what diffeence did you feel in your body, mind, emotions, etc., after the implant?

Do you have any regrets about the implant? I'm very curious about these things.

As far as Malanga goes, i trust him. And in his own words: "no one will ever have full integrity as long as our consciousness remains divided" and the consciousness of humans, at this point in time, remains divided. So Malanga, being human, is not infallible, but he recognizes this and is trying his best to leave a legacy of freer beings.

[Chester]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Justone,

I have not checked the links you posted here for lack of time. But I will in due course.

I'm wondering why you willingly subjected yourself to being implanted. And what difference did you feel in your body, mind, emotions, etc., after the implant?

Do you have any regrets about the implant? I'm very curious about these things.

As far as Malanga goes, I trust him. And in his own words: "no one will ever have full integrity as long as our consciousness remains divided" and the consciousness of humans, at this point in time, remains divided. So Malanga, being human, is not infallible, but he recognizes this and is trying his best to leave a legacy of freer beings.

I respect Dr. Malanga perhaps more than anyone on earth. Because Houman posted the material's that led me to Eve Lorgen and then to Doctor Malanga... I am forever grateful. I also trust Dr. Malanga. Having said that, anything is possible including that any one of us, including Dr. Malanga, could misinterpret data and/or draw conclusions which might point us in a direction other than to the fundamental truths of human experience. Or, point to a layer of the onion which might lead one to conclude that layer is the all important layer and/or the final layer when perhaps there's deeper layers. I am wide open minded in this regard and that is the only point I attempted to make - let's all do our very best to remain ever open minded.

To address several of your questions I must first make a comment about a comment you have made -

{Dr. Malanga as you have translated} "no one will ever have full integrity as long as our consciousness remains divided"

I have difficulty with this statement as within the statement is an opinion that no one (which implies no single individual) can ever achieve full integrity as long as our consciousness remains divided.

Taking that statement as you presented ties the individual to a collective and I personally do not accept that. I may be wrong, but I am of the opinion that a single individual has the capability of uniting themselves such that they no longer experience a divided consciousness. Now if we are only speaking in terms of absolutes, maybe no single individual will ever accomplish this task fully, 100%. But if we consider most human beings today operate with approximately 5% of their entire consciousness (1/20th), I can imagine that if an individual Spirit being (regardless of their complimentary levels of manifestation) achieves operating at 95% conscious capacity, 19/20ths, I would no longer label them as divided.

You further stated what I believe is your own words which was "and the consciousness of humans, at this point in time, remains divided," so again, I make my same point... this is a black/white statement and I am reluctant to agree with that type of either/or dynamic.

Now, to make clear why I said I accepted the chip willingly (and in fact felt that I was with friends) you can refer back to my post of this event and you will see I had this experience in the "vivid dream state."

Now I can't go into attempting to teach about the three levels of human experience referred to as gross, subtle and causal... if you are interested in investigating this subject I recommend the materials of Ken Wilber.

I bring this up because my experience occurred while I was conscious within the subtle realm. My acceptance was indeed very real, but did not occur within my waking state (the gross realm).

The "chip" on the back right of my head is what came to me to be called "an early, crude version of a protoplasmic chip." This came from "the voice in my head" years ago. It may simply be a birthmark and I am delusional.

The "implant" on my left leg between my knee and my ankle is imbedded within my bone but occasionally generates a leakage about once every two or so years, I pick at it until the fluid buildup is able to be released and then it heals over. This chip appeared to me sometime in my mid to late 30s. Why do I believe this is a chip? Because "the voice in my head" told me so. Again, I may simply be delusional. Do note, this seems to be the same voice in my head which told me about the impending event we know as 9/11 and also the 7/7 event - the only two times I ever had "the voice" tell me of something coming.

It is clear that it is possible human beings were aware of these upcoming events at the time I was informed of them and thus one of my theories is that I have an implant from human beings and that at least one of the voices in my head is simply human beings having their fun with me. Note that one of David Icke's most serious warnings is in relation to the chip and that if signals could be sent out, then signals may also be able to be received.

Now of course any rational minded individual who has known me all my life would seriously question my theory as I do as well because seriously folks, who am I? A nobody. I live a very quiet life and I have a close circle of family and friends and certainly I was never (nor am I now) to be in any position to "influence" any significant portion of society. So anyone should ask, then why you, Chester?

I have two theories for this answer. Theory A is that why not? Someone has to be experimented upon. If theory A has any validity, then perhaps there's dozens of folks that have received chips in this regard. There always has to be prototypes and there always has to be testing. Anyways, that is one possibility.

Theory B is that perhaps my Spirit has been identified to be a trouble maker and thus I have been sentenced to "Earth Prison" for rehabilitation. See, I do not believe a Spirit being can be destroyed or if It can be, my ultimate Creator would not allow that to happen willy nilly and thus I have been sentenced to Earth Prison in hopes I might get a clue.

Now, understand, I see that a Spirit being has levels as to Its creation. "God" created my Spirit. During my Spirit's journey, I entered into realms within which I became components such that I developed this thing we like to call "the soul" which I see as simply a container of residual memory... the residue of past experiences (in my Spirit's journey and not necessarily meaning linear space/time) that I take with me from experience to experience. The "progenitors" (you must explore the link I gave above regarding Anthony Sanchez's interview of Colonel X to understand what I mean by "progenitors") being an ancient ancestor tinkered with their own DNA to continue their general species which had the capability of soul retention even after the death of their physical container. After two more levels in this process occurred (if Colonel X's information is true), I found myself incarnating into a human body.

But who/what am I? Am I a human being named Chester? Am I the Spirit being that has incarnated as Chester? Am I a child of the actual, original Creator (if there even is one)?

Taking Erik's point of view, I am all these things. Taking Dr. Malanga's point of view, if your translation is correct, states "We are God."

Basically, because I have tested the waters that I (thus all) might be, it is possible I have gone a long way in uniting (or perhaps reuniting) my divided self.

If I can do this, anyone can (IMO).

I have wonderful days these days. Each and every day is filled with hundreds of confirming synchronicities. I feel I have achieved oneness with the universe (not 100% nor not 100% of the time, but far, far more than I ever experienced within my memory).

I also correlate much of this to my cleanse of the parasites which is ongoing.

Now for the last comment. Why I am happy if it is true that I am chipped. I cannot speak for others, but I have lived a life that has always been a life of deception. I was a professional liar before I reached the age of 10 or so years old. I lied pathologically. In my teens I became addicted to substances and by the time I got to age 19, I became involved with AA, a 12 step program. This program requires rigorous honesty. So I spent the next 34 years attempting to be honest with myself.

I worked hard at it. I explored every single lie I told myself or bought into that I could bring forth to my waking consciousness. Along the way I would still employ selective lying. I reached the point of suicide about a year ago and emerged alive yet within the grips of a massive depression. When I discovered this thread on April 26th, I was consumed with hope, I have then spent the last 7 months becoming completely honest with myself and at the same time ridding myself of the practice of deception in any form with others and with myself.

It has not been easy because, as you may have noticed, I am perhaps TOO honest. Along the way, I am sure folks have noticed shifts in my point of view as well. I have battled all my life the human practice of requiring others to take a stand on something and retain that stand. I believe this is one of the forms of imprisonment humans impose upon each other... that we consider this to be a character trait when "you can be counted on" to be who you represent yourself to be. Folks that have less scruples can take advantage of those types of folks who demonstrate that form of "integrity." I would assume "good soldiers" are of this type. Psychopaths are the polar opposite it seems. I assume I am likely a full blown psychopath that has simply chosen to be in positive, right relationship with others.

Anyways, it has occurred to me that if I were a form of "higher being" and I was hoping to assist a Spirit being like myself, I may chip the little rascal so that I could read that being's thoughts so that I might be able to conclude that Spirit being has indeed reformed.

So awhile back I thought about the chip in regards only to myself (as that is the only being which I feel comfortable in judging) and I realized that if I indeed reformed, if I indeed transformed into a person of true integrity, then why would I care about anyone else's eaves dropping of any aspect of my life? Please, understand, I am speaking only for myself. I would never feel comfortable that anyone else agree to have done to them any form of privacy invasion. But in my case, considering the idea that even my thoughts may be shared with other sentient beings in physical form and/or other dimensional form, has motivated me to unify myself. There's zero lie in me anymore. I have no secrets. I have stated this in other posts. Of course, I use discretion what I reveal about myself in my real day to day life, but I have used this forum to strip down naked because I trust the folks on this forum.

I had no idea what would come of me by heading down this road, but I can assure you that today, I have never been more full of life, productive, loving and... a man of true integrity in every area. When solid folks ask something of me and I accept, they can count on me. That's a new thing for me.

And again, If I can do what I have done, anyone can - you couldn't be any more sick and lost as I was.

Thanks again for posting the Dr. Malanga summary/translation... justoneman, Chester

[Chester]

Posted by Flash (here)

That you have found a medium which you can speak through honestly, clearly and with zero fear of retribution as long as you follow one simple rule... do not cross that magic line where you have stirred up the natives such that the grand agenda might be considered in jeopardy.

what does that mean, ... do not cross the magic line where you have stirred up the natives.... does that mean that we are not ever to be in control? What is ghe grand agenda?

thanks

as for Malanga, it would be easier in terms of energy expenditure to focus only on him, so that he implants the false memories, instead of on thousands, well from my human not technologically savvy opinion.

The natives in this case means "us" - the common folk - the folk with a lower percentage of (or perhaps no) "off world parent race beings' blood" - the blood of the progenitors. See, there are very few relatively pure "Dragons" so the rest of us are the natives. There is no benefit to the dragon families that the rest of us get stirred up as we might become a threat. So all I am suggesting is that "we" take the higher road of understanding of the global dilemma such that we don't push some of the dragon family members into a position such that they might take drastic measures and we all lose in the process.

As for your second comment, please, understand I do not necessarily take the view I suggested. I simply stated that was a possibility. I stated this for two reasons - one was to demonstrate my new found methodology as to how I approach life, I am open minded to everything but married to nothing. I am much more at peace with this approach to life. The second reason is that since anything and everything is possible, and we have plenty of experience with the illumed and nutty enough to know how amazingly brilliant they can be, then I see setting up the next set of memes as certainly possible in the form I mentioned. That being through the areas of the subconscious mind. Might be the latest "weapon" of choice... who can ever really know?

This is why I no longer have any enemies unless I allow myself to be my own enemy. I pose no threat to any level of being. Well, unless I start to stir up the natives which I am doing my best to avoid. Enjoy the rest of your day, Chester

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Folks --

Referencing another thread here:

HITCHHIKERS (a sort of partial possession) - and how to handle them

Here's the intro. It was motivated by discussion on this thread, and may be of great interest to those following it.

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There exists a potential human situation which, when once alerted to it, many reading this may recognize in others... or even in themselves. It goes under a number of names, but here I want to call this the phenomenon of Hitchhikers.

A hitchhiker is a spirit who was quite a short time ago in a human body, but whose body has died and who therefore decided to look for a new 'home'. They've not gone on to inhabit a new baby body, as is normal. Instead, they've chosen to find what could be considered an easier solution to their problem: rather than taking on a new body for themselves, they jump into an existing body which is already 'occupied'. It's like having an unwanted guest in your house... or an unwanted hitchhiker in your car.

This is slightly different from 'possession' -- which is a related phenomenon, to be discussed separately. When a body is 'possessed', another being comes into the body - and takes over completely. The original 'owner' is completely dispossessed. That's a little like someone jumping into your car, holding you up at gunpoint, and taking over the wheel while you're tied up in the trunk. That's NOT what we're talking about here.

(It's also different from a 'walk-in' -- where there is NOT the problem of the undesirable conflict of two beings both considering that they should be the one that's in charge of the body. With a walk-in, the original 'owner of the car' simply hands it over to another being by mutual agreement.)

So, in contrast, here's what a hitchhiker is. A hitchhiker gets in the car without your consent, sits in the back seat, or the passenger seat, while you're still at the wheel -- and just interferes, talks a lot, and generally gets in the way. They may influence how you're driving, or where you're going. Every now and then they may take over the wheel, but as a rule they're simply a dominant, interfering influence. (There's a wonderful Jim Carrey comedy -- Me, Myself and Irene -- which caricatures this brilliantly.)

What this looks like from an outside standpoint (e.g. from that of a loved one, family member, or friend) is that one's personality changes. Sometimes it's a permanent change, and sometimes it 'toggles' back and forth between two personalities which are evidently rather different.

It's important to understand that, from the 'inside', the person affected, and who is suffering, may not be aware of this at all.

The purpose of this article is to offer guidelines and protocols to those wishing to help someone affected by this phenomenon. (Exceptionally, the affected person themselves may be well aware of what's happened to them... and so of course this article may be of great benefit to them as well.)

The following article was written specially for Avalon by a good friend who is an expert in this and other related fields. If you'd like to get in touch with her, please do so via my own e-mail address, and I'll forward your message immediately.

Download here: (15 pages)
http://projectavalon.net/Avalon_Hitc...9_Nov_2012.pdf



https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...to-handle-them

[lookbeyond]

Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

Hello lookbeyond,

War in Heaven has been on my "to read" list for a long time. But there is so much to do and so little time to do it in, that I don't know when I'll finally get around to reading it. And I have not checked the thread of the 24 Elders, which i also mean to do. However, I'd like to reply to your post because you asked for thoughts.

Impersonations of loved ones or religious figures has, imo, always existed. It is one one of the many deceptions the dark side uses in order to mislead. I have experienced this in dreams. Occasionally I have a dream of someone who has passed, whom I trusted and cared about, and they give me very misguided advice, or there's something about them which appears evil. This is a very clear indication that they are not who they seem to be. I have come to recognize this now so I just tell them to go away because their tricks don't work on me anymore.

I don't know, however, whether it's possible to devour another's soul. I know many say this is done, but it doesn't resonate with me. They can fully misguide a soul, leading them, in the here and now, to make very unwise decisions with catastrophic outcomes, and they can misguide a soul after crossing over, to follow them, to join them, to lead them down a path of incarnations which will spiral down into worse and worse existences. But the concept of devouring a soul does not resonate with me. To me, a soul cannot be destroyed. Although a soul is not energy, it is like energy inasmuch as it can change, transform, but cannot not be destroyed.

Ultimately, I don't know. But you asked for thoughts, and these are my thoughts on your question.

Best to you!

[lookbeyond]

Dear DOT, thankyou for responding, I found the book so far from what I am able to comfortably live with that this is why ive been persistent in asking for others perceptions and unfortunately few are willing to give their thoughts.
So thanks again for responding, I feel the same way re the destruction of souls, and I hope this is the case.

In terms of what one can do to attempt to prevent deception at point of death, the book offers that we develop our psychic skills in this life in hope that we can read properly those who present to us at point of death.

The concept of deception at point of death is disturbing as some deaths are traumatic and the soul may not discern correctly and be lost/ captured / ?devoured.

This deception at point of death led me to wonder about NDEs and whether there could be an agenda behind them directed toward harvesting/ possession / devouring of unsuspecting souls. That what seems all lov n light could be in fact aimed at deception- so many implications for humanity- and if any element of truth well worth discussing in my point of view.

Sorry if off topic Houman- just needed to get this out there,

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[DNA]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

I think this line of thinking gives the dark wayyyyyyyyyy too much credit and power. If the loved ones at the tunnel were as you say why would they take folks back to their body and lead them back to life when proclaiming it is not their time? Why are the changes noticed on such folks when returning from a NDE so profoundly positive and spiritual?

[observer]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

Hello lookbeyond,

War in Heaven has been on my "to read" list for a long time. But there is so much to do and so little time to do it in, that I don't know when I'll finally get around to reading it. And I have not checked the thread of the 24 Elders, which i also mean to do. However, I'd like to reply to your post because you asked for thoughts.

Impersonations of loved ones or religious figures has, imo, always existed. It is one one of the many deceptions the dark side uses in order to mislead. I have experienced this in dreams. Occasionally I have a dream of someone who has passed, whom I trusted and cared about, and they give me very misguided advice, or there's something about them which appears evil. This is a very clear indication that they are not who they seem to be. I have come to recognize this now so I just tell them to go away because their tricks don't work on me anymore.

I don't know, however, whether it's possible to devour another's soul. I know many say this is done, but it doesn't resonate with me. They can fully misguide a soul, leading them, in the here and now, to make very unwise decisions with catastrophic outcomes, and they can misguide a soul after crossing over, to follow them, to join them, to lead them down a path of incarnations which will spiral down into worse and worse existences. But the concept of devouring a soul does not resonate with me. To me, a soul cannot be destroyed. Although a soul is not energy, it is like energy inasmuch as it can change, transform, but cannot not be destroyed.

Ultimately, I don't know. But you asked for thoughts, and these are my thoughts on your question.

Best to you!

I ran across a hard copy of "War in Heaven" back in the 90s. It wasn't my book. I was able to find a link to a free online copy:

Griffith, Kyle - "War In Heaven":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...heaven-III.htm

It's a fascinating read, and once started, hard to put-down.

It isn't my habit to link 'channeled' material, however, this particular channel has quite a bit going-on. Griffith is one of the few 'viewers' I've ever encountered that gives a totally contradictory message from the usual regurgitated brain manure of most channels, both historic and contempory.

In response to Bill's Comment #2264 regarding "Hitchhikers", Chapter 21 is titled "Hitch-Hiking Spirits"

As far as soul harvesting goes, I see no evidence that the soul is totally consumed, only the essence is consumed, and a seed is replanted into a new body. This is the basis for why few can recall a former lifetime - the Archons/Theocrats/Reptiles are consuming the cream of your soul and replanting only a small remnant.

[eaglespirit]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I have then spent the last 7 months becoming completely honest with myself and at the same time ridding myself of the practice of deception in any form with others and with myself.

There's zero lie in me anymore. I have no secrets. I have stated this in other posts. Of course, I use discretion what I reveal about myself in my real day to day life, but I have used this forum to strip down naked because I trust the folks on this forum.

I had no idea what would come of me by heading down this road, but I can assure you that today, I have never been more full of life, productive, loving and... a man of true integrity in every area. When solid folks ask something of me and I accept, they can count on me. That's a new thing for me.


And again, If I can do what I have done, anyone can - you couldn't be any more sick and lost as I was.

Thanks again for posting the Dr. Malanga summary/translation... justoneman, Chester

Hi Chester, Wishing You Well...
I have been following Your posts here and there because I honor and respect Your honesty and willingness to be fully transparent and to help Those You may and Those that are listening and Those that are ready.
The big clean up is here...and I mean right here at Avalon, too.
What I brought here from Your post is the simple-solid-solution to all of the complex matters that matter to these changes occurring right now.
You are a living example of what needs to go on in our personal lives.
All of the darkness all around simply cannot handle and take hold of Anyone that decides to live in purity through thought and word and action...and I mean being as good as We can possibly muster...impeccably good. All it takes is a few million of Us doing this in a consistent and combined effort.
And I know I keep saying this over and over in different ways on different threads.
But when Someone like You is doing it so forthright and laying it all on the line and bearing His Soul for All to see here....that is beyond commendable and is exactly what is bringing the vibrations higher and higher so that this clean-up-ride We are now on is going to be running on an Energy all It's own as these days through the Solstice unfold.

[lookbeyond]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

I think this line of thinking gives the dark wayyyyyyyyyy too much credit and power. If the loved ones at the tunnel were as you say why would they take folks back to their body and lead them back to life when proclaiming it is not their time? Why are the changes noticed on such folks when returning from a NDE so profoundly positive and spiritual?

Thank you for responding DNA, I agree with your points as to the loved ones in these instances sending souls back not being their time and that those who have returned becoming more "spiritual" etc, however if you were to read the book i think you would understand my concerns re the supposed deception by the supposed theocrats.In the book the author discusses the large scale deception of the human race in an effort to secure souls for the theocrats own use.The connection for me with NDEs is that some of those returning from them may be being used to promote a false sense of security for those of us here yet to pass on, in other words a deception of the few who have the "positive" NDEs to secure a ready and continuous supply of unsuspecting souls for the theocrats use.

Sound far fetched? ... no more than anything else here on Avalon, and considering its our soul at stake- if "true" - certainly worth considering.


Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[lookbeyond]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

Hello lookbeyond,

War in Heaven has been on my "to read" list for a long time. But there is so much to do and so little time to do it in, that I don't know when I'll finally get around to reading it. And I have not checked the thread of the 24 Elders, which i also mean to do. However, I'd like to reply to your post because you asked for thoughts.

Impersonations of loved ones or religious figures has, imo, always existed. It is one one of the many deceptions the dark side uses in order to mislead. I have experienced this in dreams. Occasionally I have a dream of someone who has passed, whom I trusted and cared about, and they give me very misguided advice, or there's something about them which appears evil. This is a very clear indication that they are not who they seem to be. I have come to recognize this now so I just tell them to go away because their tricks don't work on me anymore.

I don't know, however, whether it's possible to devour another's soul. I know many say this is done, but it doesn't resonate with me. They can fully misguide a soul, leading them, in the here and now, to make very unwise decisions with catastrophic outcomes, and they can misguide a soul after crossing over, to follow them, to join them, to lead them down a path of incarnations which will spiral down into worse and worse existences. But the concept of devouring a soul does not resonate with me. To me, a soul cannot be destroyed. Although a soul is not energy, it is like energy inasmuch as it can change, transform, but cannot not be destroyed.

Ultimately, I don't know. But you asked for thoughts, and these are my thoughts on your question.

Best to you!

I ran across a hard copy of "War in Heaven" back in the 90s. It wasn't my book. I was able to find a link to a free online copy:

Griffith, Kyle - "War In Heaven":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...heaven-III.htm

It's a fascinating read, and once started, hard to put-down.

It isn't my habit to link 'channeled' material, however, this particular channel has quite a bit going-on. Griffith is one of the few 'viewers' I've ever encountered that gives a totally contradictory message from the usual regurgitated brain manure of most channels, both historic and contempory.

In response to Bill's Comment #2264 regarding "Hitchhikers", Chapter 21 is titled "Hitch-Hiking Spirits"

As far as soul harvesting goes, I see no evidence that the soul is totally consumed, only the essence is consumed, and a seed is replanted into a new body. This is the basis for why few can recall a former lifetime - the Archons/Theocrats/Reptiles are consuming the cream of your soul and replanting only a small remnant.

Hello Observer, thank you for elaborating. With reguard to the essence of the soul being consumed- do you feel that this is detrimental to our progression as souls ie that it is a backwards step in our evolution toward Source ( if that is our intention)?

For myself, I found the concept of the material disturbing, as it seems to disadvantage us when we are most vulnerable. I speak of those who are afraid of death, those who are inexperienced in life such as children and those who may have sudden/traumatic death. I speak also as a mother who wants to prepare her children in the best way possible for protecting themselves in this life and the next.
So for me and all of us, just to be aware that this is a possibility as so many other things may be, it is worth the discussion.

Kind Reguards lookbeyond addit Thanks for providing the link- i need to become more computer savvy.

[DNA]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Hello, has anyone heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths. Its some disturbing material i came across on another thread (24 Elders). The basics of it is that there are 2 opposing sides competing for souls at point of death, the theocrats supposedly try to deceive unsuspecting recently deceased persons by impersonating loved ones/ familiar religious personas and take over/destroy/eat their souls. Their opposers are the invisible college- here to assist. Any thoughts?

lookbeyond

I think this line of thinking gives the dark wayyyyyyyyyy too much credit and power. If the loved ones at the tunnel were as you say why would they take folks back to their body and lead them back to life when proclaiming it is not their time? Why are the changes noticed on such folks when returning from a NDE so profoundly positive and spiritual?

Thank you for responding DNA, I agree with your points as to the loved ones in these instances sending souls back not being their time and that those who have returned becoming more "spiritual" etc, however if you were to read the book i think you would understand my concerns re the supposed deception by the supposed theocrats.In the book the author discusses the large scale deception of the human race in an effort to secure souls for the theocrats own use.The connection for me with NDEs is that some of those returning from them may be being used to promote a false sense of security for those of us here yet to pass on, in other words a deception of the few who have the "positive" NDEs to secure a ready and continuous supply of unsuspecting souls for the theocrats use.

Sound far fetched? ... no more than anything else here on Avalon, and considering its our soul at stake- if "true" - certainly worth considering.


Kind Reguards lookbeyond

I actually posted a link to this book about a year ago I'm very familiar with it. I agree with most of the premises in this book, especially on dark entities attaching a cord to a confused spirit and syphoning energy from them. I think ghosts who become attached in this way become shadow beings as is my experience on a post a couple of pages back. My experience has led me to believe it is folks who DON'T crossover are the ones this happens to. This small difference in my opinion may mean this information is being given by these dark entities. This is just my opinion but the best way to sell a lie is to pass it along with what is known to be true.

[Hughe]

@Houman

By far this thread contains the worst images I ever seen on the net over three decades.

Why do I other members and viewer see all hundreds of gross images without warning?
Cut off head, dissected dead corpse, gore and bloody pictures, and on and on.

What are mods doing here?
The thread suddenly turned into sick, hardcore freaks's forum after #20 till #36. I stopped reading anymore.
Great way to spread the sick messages in the name of truth search.

[observer]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

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Hello Observer, thank you for elaborating. With regard to the essence of the soul being consumed- do you feel that this is detrimental to our progression as souls ie that it is a backwards step in our evolution toward Source ( if that is our intention)?

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Some of the members have been following my comments for quite a while. Throughout the history of my membership I have been presenting evidence through links to the possibility of a Soul Harvesting Operation here in this particular reality. If one were to spend some time and follow my comments and subsequently the links that have been offered in the past, one will discover that the available evidence indicates this particular reality is a 'locked-down' experience, or as has been reported in countless text from antiquity, a place for the 'fallen'.

There is no doubt a matrix imprisoning souls into an endless a$$-biting loop of birth-death-rebirth here within this particular reality. Soul Harvesting and the "essence" theory is one possible explanation of the mechanism behind this particular reality.

I would not characterize any of these revelations as 'forward steps' in our "evolution toward Source".

Follow the links I have offered in the past, and one will come to a similar conclusion. It cannot be explained in one single comment. One must take the time and do the research.

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Dear DOT, thankyou for responding, I found the book so far from what I am able to comfortably live with that this is why ive been persistent in asking for others perceptions and unfortunately few are willing to give their thoughts.
So thanks again for responding, I feel the same way re the destruction of souls, and I hope this is the case.

In terms of what one can do to attempt to prevent deception at point of death, the book offers that we develop our psychic skills in this life in hope that we can read properly those who present to us at point of death.

The concept of deception at point of death is disturbing as some deaths are traumatic and the soul may not discern correctly and be lost/ captured / ?devoured.

This deception at point of death led me to wonder about NDEs and whether there could be an agenda behind them directed toward harvesting/ possession / devouring of unsuspecting souls. That what seems all lov n light could be in fact aimed at deception- so many implications for humanity- and if any element of truth well worth discussing in my point of view.

Sorry if off topic Houman- just needed to get this out there,

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

Hello lookbeyond,

I understand your concerns. When reading dark materials one can become totally overwhelmed. However, awareness is the first step towards protecting oneself.

I have many memories of other existences. It seems that one way or another, i have been a target for the dark side. I believe that if they could have devoured my soul, I wouldn't be here now. But I am here! My soul has not been devoured! This is why I fully believe that although one can be lead down a destructive path, one can always find one's way back. The soul may be fragmented, but I also believe it can be re-integrated.

Don't be afraid of what you read. Regard it as education. The more you know, the better off you'll be when it comes to not falling into traps.

Love and strength,

Daughter of Time

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Hughe (here)
@Houman

By far this thread contains the worst images I ever seen on the net over three decades.

This thread is discussing, in considerable detail and with considerable evidence, a topic that you don't usually see discussed on the net. It is an important topic for the circumstances of humanity.

Posted by Hughe (here)
Why do I other members and viewer see all hundreds of gross images without warning?
Cut off head, dissected dead corpse, gore and bloody pictures, and on and on.

What are mods doing here?

See my post on this a half year ago -- Post #893 above.

Houman and I each replaced some of the most shocking images with links and a warning.

Different viewers have different levels of preference on this ... some will choose not to read further in this thread ... that's OK.

[lookbeyond]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by lookbeyond (here)

[....snip]

Hello Observer, thank you for elaborating. With regard to the essence of the soul being consumed- do you feel that this is detrimental to our progression as souls ie that it is a backwards step in our evolution toward Source ( if that is our intention)?

[....snip]

Some of the members have been following my comments for quite a while. Throughout the history of my membership I have been presenting evidence through links to the possibility of a Soul Harvesting Operation here in this particular reality. If one were to spend some time and follow my comments and subsequently the links that have been offered in the past, one will discover that the available evidence indicates this particular reality is a 'locked-down' experience, or as has been reported in countless text from antiquity, a place for the 'fallen'.

There is no doubt a matrix imprisoning souls into an endless a$$-biting loop of birth-death-rebirth here within this particular reality. Soul Harvesting and the "essence" theory is one possible explanation of the mechanism behind this particular reality.

I would not characterize any of these revelations as 'forward steps' in our "evolution toward Source".

Follow the links I have offered in the past, and one will come to a similar conclusion. It cannot be explained in one single comment. One must take the time and do the research.

Hello Observer, i would "not characterize any of these revelations as forward steps in our evolution toward Source" either.I would in fact anticipate the opposite.
Thankyou otherwise for your kind direction,

lookbeyond

[DNA]

Posted by observer (here)
Some of the members have been following my comments for quite a while. Throughout the history of my membership I have been presenting evidence through links to the possibility of a Soul Harvesting Operation here in this particular reality. If one were to spend some time and follow my comments and subsequently the links that have been offered in the past, one will discover that the available evidence indicates this particular reality is a 'locked-down' experience, or as has been reported in countless text from antiquity, a place for the 'fallen'.

There is no doubt a matrix imprisoning souls into an endless a$$-biting loop of birth-death-rebirth here within this particular reality. Soul Harvesting and the "essence" theory is one possible explanation of the mechanism behind this particular reality.

I would not characterize any of these revelations as 'forward steps' in our "evolution toward Source".

Follow the links I have offered in the past, and one will come to a similar conclusion. It cannot be explained in one single comment. One must take the time and do the research.

Look, I respect what Houman is trying to do and I respect that Bill Ryan is trying to open a means for this discussian to take place.
I've been on this search myself for quite a while now, and I've come to a lot of the same conclusians, but my conclusians do not include a soul harvesting device sitting at the end of the tunnel light that will open up upon our deaths.

I view this world as a school, with all of it's short comings, ethereal parasites, shadow beings, ghosts, the whole sha-bang. I view this world as a school that we all signed up for.
But what I do not view this world as is some kind of soul harvester.

Outside my personal experience I would look to the work of Micheal Newton, Jane Roberts and Edgar Cayce. There is genius in their work, undeniable genius.
There is little more than scare tactics in the soul harvester theory.
Where is the motivation for some one to think along these lines.
Is it to experience the thrill of a horror movie?
I think there is enough of that going on in the world that we do not need to perpetuate it here.
And bottom line it is disempowering, to think that all of this is for naught, and we are to be sucked into a cauldron by a giant alien vacum cleaner upon the point of death.

This world is a school, and some of the lessons suck, and yes there are energetic parasites that feed upon the chi that intertwines body and soul, and if your silly you may turn into one of those parasites, sucking the energy of the living because you didn't enter the tunnel of light, but I"m thinking most folks here are going to go aha, when that tunnel opens up upon death and all of this will be a mute point.

And what about this little diddy, why did the soul harvester send Pam Reynolds back to her body?
Did the soul harvester have some sinister plan when it acted like her dead uncle who took her back to her body?
And what of the positive effects the experience had on Pam?
Is it all part of the master plan to fool us?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WNbdUEqDB-k

Maybe it's how when Bill Hicks asked his christian friend if the world is only 12,000 years old what about Dinosaurs? And to this his friend replied, "God put those here to test our faith".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mrZcztxRquo

[observer]

Posted by DNA (here)
Click on the forwarding icon to see the content of DNA's comment #2279

The point of my comments, DNA is exactly the same as the point of Houman's and Bill Ryan's comments. They are intended to inform. The links that I offer are all designed to shed light on the hyperdimensional manipulation of this particular reality.

• There is no intention of any sort of "scare tactic" involved in the dissemination of information that is substantiated by objective evidence.
• Information is the key to understanding.
• When few have an understanding, sometimes the information can be frightening.
• Understanding is the key to releasing one's eternal soul from what many regard as a prison planet.
• Without the knowledge of how the mechanism works, one will never escape.... if escape is what one desires.

You may desire to hang around this particular reality and go through another eternity of birth-death-rebirth to gain some sort of esoteric understanding in this "school", as you characterize it. My intentions are to show the members (who may have a desire to understand) the mechanics of how their eternal souls are trapped within this matrix.

The tone of your comment is condescending. Don't use a public thread to preach to me with your limited understanding.....