Posted by 9eagle9
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Why are we so attached to the We Are One , Collective, Mass Ascension and Awakenings and the assorted fluff and powder that go with them.
Before a solution is provided one would think a very deep exploration of this paradigm that so many are attached to not only in Christian philosophies but the New age ones as well.
I tis actually a symptom of much deeper wound.
Elevating a collective wound as enlightenment is hardly what I call a solution.
An individual who is so strongly sure of themselves that they can live in harmoniously with others in a collective sense.
Wounded people all flung together in a tangle gasping they are one? That's an achievement?
Which sounds more appealing?
When approached on an individual level we can have achievements. This collective mind trap we have offers pie in the sky goals with no measureable collective progress.
Without a thorough understanding of the problem a blanket solution is no solution at all because we are individuals forged that way not only by this life time’s experiences but the experiences of other lives. By the experiences of other people, even that we have had imposed on us morphologically speaking we come to understand other lives are someone elses lives. If one studies the tarot that is a realization (not a solution) that one comes to.
Energy surges were not a solution nor heralded a solution but people milled all over the place gasping something must be about to happen. It did. Energy surged.
People gasped that the planets were all in alignment. and so they did. Now they are no longer in alignment so obviously that was no solution.
Solutions are not on collective levels only on individual levels for that reason. YOu can have a meaningless goal that stays in the heart or you can have progression that is expressed in one's physical life.
We have all just witnessed the failure of scores of blanket solutions based on collectivism, oneness, mass awakening. The event itself is one of mass awareness, if one doesn’t immediately retreat into denial, or petulance because their expectations were dashed. Blame the collective for that the individual didn't make any such promise. The individual has been taken out of the equation. Unfortunately mass , we are one, anything is going to fail because the collective is composed of…individuals.
There are far few people who have worked on core values stemming from this life time that allow entry into this deeper inner explorations where we arrive closer at a ‘solution’—let alone the deeper ‘out of ourselves’ experience.
This is where the mass ascension and mass awakening fables come from in the first place with the misplaced intention that we are somehow One in a 3d realm where the function of being individual in a cooperative way is the only basis of not only survival but evolution.
It is a basically a symptom of a deeper wound. Self loathing.
Below that is an even deeper shared wound. i’m thinking shared wounds are really no solution at all. Imposing shared wounds as 'solution' is not really a solution at all.
These MASS , Collective we are one paradigms however completely dismiss the processes of the individual all 7 billion of them and skips to a sort of superficial bandaid for everyone.
Please look at this word IN-Divide (ual) and let open a whole path of exploration AND experience for you for you.
It is obvious to our poor bare eyes that we are not ‘one’. Not yet. Our work hasn’t hardly even begun to be initiated on an individual level to come anywhere close to ‘one.’ ‘mass’ collective.
These notions are found in deeper exploration and are found collectively in deeply wounded place that humans actually do collectively share. The paradigm of living in a shared state of woundedness is decidedly unappealing. The one thing we do all share is a basic similar template but those are all different too. We’d not know that though unless we got back to an exploration of our origins.
A mass collectively expression of a wound is no solution at all.
I have questions for people who promote that sort of thing.
Are you willing and have the resources to delve in the formative constructs of every individual on earth, and piece together what went wrong with them on a personal level not only in this life but others?
Do you have the ability to know their basic template even if it differs from yours?
Do you have the time energy and resources to do that? Does anyone?
Looked at from that scope can we still say we are one. A mass, a collective when the individual experiences are so varied there’s seldom a common thread to even imply oneness.
Still think of it as a solution ? Seem easier if the solution were on an individual level?
With individual explorations nothing external is needed. With collective ones which don't examine the problem, external contrivances that don't exist are required. Rays of light, photon belts, galatic alignments and of course everyone else to make up the 'we are one' paradigm.
This is refusal to see people on an individual level pushing our ‘we are one ‘ or mass and collective agenda when it should be fairly obvious we all come from different cultures, religions, family structures, genetics, races, generations, morphological structure and influences, and differing but basic templates.
How our environments, inwards and outwards have influenced us—all alternative life paradigms—all of this constantly redirects us closer to a solution because we more clearly see the problem. This creates an individual experience for everyone not just in this life but other lives. How our influences of other existences we may be experiencing right now are influencing this one. No two experience life (lives) the same way . Mass collective or we are one collectivism is no solution at all but an illness. One does not see it as a problem until one clearly understands the problem though.
It is a vaguely defined goal point but do we ever stop and ask ourselves WHY we want such a goal? There’s a whole lot of answers towards a solution when we pause and ask ourselves that.
That sort of solution stops before its even begun with the first individual this is not a blanket cure it stops with the with the first individual that the solution does not address—on an individual levels. One puts a ill defined and illusionary collective over the living breathing individual. That is no solution. That is not even approaching a collective solution if one person is left out of the equation.
Face it we can be free unto ourselves if we approached this the correct way but not EVERY one will be free, even the most enlightened people I know are not free, until everyone is. Because no matter how far you skid up the ladder someone else, another individual is always waiting to impose their taxes, their moral decay, their illusions onto you.
Individuals yes and the whole path ways should be addressed as such but we are not islands unto ourselves. Unfortunately this blanket we are one collective solution forces others into islands unto themselves to preserve what little freedoms they have earned for themselves.
Yes we have a basic template, some are different, some have variances to them, but their pretty basic. The same way a vehicle will have a chassis and a body and an engine. One will see that where our commonality ends at that basic template, because generational influences on all facets of ourselves have been influenced, fashioned and forged differently—individually. A model T is much different now than a Ford F 150. Their both still Fords though. What drives the vehicle is individual to the make and model. One has four cylinders the other six. This is where we are one, or the ‘mass or collective’ conditioning starts and stops---far short of a solution.
If we were still at our basic template no solution would be needed at all.
Nothing will be achieved on a collective or mass basis until all individuals have addressed their far reaching inner formations. Good bad or indifferent. They will still remain individuals that have come to a commonly shared awareness.
. Heart centered teachings do very little good for those who cannot access it and the reason they cannot access heart centered expressions is because the problem has not been explored to its depths, let alone solved because the problem is not understood in our haste to rush to a solution. Heart centered does not examine the mental body, the problem solving aspect that is a very important aspect of ourselves.
Without comprehensive examination of the problem which spans thousands of years, it is childish to think some collective solution waits. Nor is it the ‘solution’ that is in error, its people’s failure to explore the problem before providing a solution that will fail just like a plethora of them just recently failed on dark black Friday.
There is a REASON that the shamans, medicine people, and druids studied for DECADES in order to use basic tools of self exploration and self-excavation of genetics, dna, morphic resonance, and our origins. These people will ask you first question where do you come from? And if you do not know how to answer that question in any way shape or form, physically, psychologically, environmentally and how any one of those three shaped you good, bad or indifferent one is then compelled to take that journey inward. One is most certainly not qualified to provide a solution if that exploration has not been made and its fairly easy once one is on their own journey to see who has and who just talks about superficial solutions that exist only as thoughts to keep the mind tied up and away from the inner informational foundations.
If one cannot see this life is a series of reincarnation events I’d have to say that the solution on an external level is pretty far off. But very basically you are not the same person you were when you were a child. You don’t have the same life.
Love does not cure everything it is driving force of the creation matrix not the matrix itself.
Vivek has yet another fine thread on creation matrix concerning our origins . Reflecting on that and what it means to YOU the individual is, the ONE Of many is where one can start etching the bare sketchings of a solution. Understanding the creation matrix helps us to understand the dark side of the matrix that we all seem to want to escape from.
I notice that these sorts of threads are not often inhabited which leads me to suppose the people haven’t even gone through this varied processes that have been built on the collective template. Yet for some reason feel qualified to impose a solution. You can't have the solution until the problem has been explored indepth on the individual level.
Without a comprehensive examination of the template, and what was built from it here is no sure identification of the problem. Let alone a solution.
A solution that inevitably has to be worked out in another life time, one is putting a ball and chain on themselves now to impeded another experience.
Without at least an abstract understanding of our origins, and how we have been shaped, and formed to our current state of existence, there is no solution in the present.
I see people not understanding and misusing tools that help us with this inner exploration. Tarot, numerology, astrology, and kabbalah to name a few. . These are not meant to be used as singular disciplines but used together lend a comprehensive guideline to our origins, our genetic structures, our psyche structures, and what paths they have taken us down previously. Superimpositional tools. If one picks up a numerology chart without superimposing it over the companion disciples one is further corrupting themselves not arriving closer to a solution. The use of companion discliplines gives a MULTI DIMENSIONAL LOOK at the problem.
Bottom line there has been great psychic trauma imposed on humanity. Accumulative trauma that tends to attract more conditions of trauma experiences. Removing our traumas one by one and exploring how they got there, how they were imposed on us and then releasing them not just in this life time but in others. Ancestrally we are connected to our own past. . If you have haven’t removed Aunt Betty’s trauma imposed on her when she was in a concentration camp you are no more closer to a solution than Aunt Betty was.
Removing all that gets us down to where we collectively suffered this trauma, and then beyond is where we find that solution. Then we can say that we took our individual journeys there and arrived at somewhat of the same place back down at the basic template. You won’t know it till you go there on your individual journey.
One knows the basic template again. One then can decide what experiences can be leveraged away, and ones that can be kept or a fuller existence.
The likelihood that 7.2 billion people will do this is marginally slim. That is no reason for the individual to refuse that journey even if they can't drag along a collective set of companions.
If had taken that journey with others I would be formed merely by their opinions which are marginally less than what I really am.
Instead I see gurus saying to get rid of your memories they aren’t yours. Because they aren't yours doesn't mean you need to shed it particularly if it provides to you some sort of knowledge that you will progress by.
Ignore it all and think about being a quantum being instead of using the tools that allow you to experience your quantumness. Express it on a living level.
Removing life times of trauma helps us to get closer to collectively share trauma and beyond that to see basic template. If people had used their tools and honored the sacredness of them astrology wouldn’t have misled them because the sister disciplines would have directed one much deeper than what the stars told on the surface. I wouldn’t the least pay attention to an astrologist who was not a numerologist who was not a witness to the tree of life who was not an adept at tarot. They are only giving one facet of a much larger picture.
These are the tools that meant for employment on the collective level.
Nailing down that universal trauma in that wounded place where shared that trauma is the basis of ‘we are one, and collective and mass philosophies. That people keep insisting we recreate these scenariors --- we are one scenarios, mass collections, mass solutions—herd animal mentalities—is what keeps us from advancing.
We see this re-enacted out daily with people trying to stay in that trauma ‘as one’ ‘mass’ collective’ umbrella solutions instead of taking the individual journey inwards alone. Our mass ascensions and mass awakenings and 'we are one' yearnings are reflections of that shared mass trauma. A wound. Solutions sprung from that are simply imposing more psychic trauma on each other.
It says I don't want to be lonely anymore.
That is a solution?
People who tell me they don’t have to mediate or use tools or employ steady mental displines but thus think they are defined to offer a solution? Should I let them give me a kidney transplant to. Where did they learn the mechanics of the matrix if not through disciplining themselves through the mechanics of the creation matrix?
Only because after all these long lonely centuries we have resided in this collective ‘we are one’ wound so it is merely familiar to us. Do we not even question WHY mass , collective, we are one paradigms are so important to us? Is milling about in a mass wound even though we are not alone and its familiar our most exceptional outcome we can expect for ourselves?
That redefines our limitations and shows us again how easily we are led by limited expressions.
In the collective I see a lot of people who don’t even have the recall of generational memories, morphic resonances, that could provide some answers to them. People who don’t have the basic skills to meter them. People who lack active listening skills, active observational skills. People who practice astrology without sister companions that would form healthy foundations from their explorations. . That doesn’t show the path it merely expresses how the path was formed. That is further corruption and confusion not enlightenment.
I do see some few people with a complex or even abstract deep understanding of facets of the problem. The Horus Ra thread, there is a facet of the problem, Viveks most exceptional exploration of Origins. That thread is particularly not well inhabited, his threads seldom are but for the few people who are exploring the problem to the extent they are well rounded enough to start casting SOLUTIONS (plural) but it does lend great bearing on how events would occur that are defined in the Horus Ra thread.
If you do not know where you came from and how you were formed over the incomprehensible span of time it took to bring you to this point in time how can we say we understand the problem enough to provide a solution. If we are not using the rather simple tools of exploration and excavation there is no blanket solution. No mass solution, no mass awakenings, no mass , collective arrivals if the departure has not yet occurred.
You cannot fix nor provide a solution if one is not fuly comprehending the problem starting on the individual level. This means you have to fully comprehend the problems stretching back through time of each individual .
Far easier me thinks to allow the individual to process what they find in their own journeys and not impeded them with bandaid solutions that would tempt and distract them away from that all important search for the basic template.
A surge of energy qualifies a person not.
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