Just in from Duncan, for those who follow his work. "2013 ... A New Year, or a Nightmare ...pt 1 "

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by Kristin (here)
Beautifully stated and worth repeating:

9eagle9: "There are some very smart people in the world. Your own inner self is a thousand times as smart. If we can’t listen to people who have the inside scoop on how this works…and they are speaking very loudly, plainly and intelligently. If we can’t hear what they have to say on the matter…. How are we going to have the wherewithal to listen to our inner knowing that knows even more?

That too is selling ourselves out."

I'd like to invite everyone who skipped 9eagle9's post because it was too long to go back and read it. It's relevant.

Everytime I read 9eagle9 it comes off like its her that Im supposed to he hearing
for obviously she thinks she has the inside scoop...
and even if we happen to be very smart,
if we are not listening to her
very plain and intelligent speaking
that somehow we won't
have the wherewithal to listen to our inner knowing...

Geesh!....

But!

Alas,
Im too busy listening to my own inner knowing to find the time

[Freed Fox]

Arrowwind;

I agree that Carmody's implication seems unfair, given that there is no corresponding implication of shared responsibility, or evidence that it is not a hypocritical accusation. However, we need to bring the confrontational tone of this thread down a few notches. Speaking generally, of course, we should be careful not to presume too much.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Everytime I read 9eagle9 it comes off like its her that Im supposed to he hearing
for obviously she thinks she has the inside scoop...
and even if we happen to be very smart,
if we are not listening to her
very plain and intelligent speaking
that somehow we won't
have the wherewithal to listen to our inner knowing...

Geesh!....

But!

Alas,
Im too busy listening to my own inner knowing to find the time

Yep, ...... I was kinda thinking the same thing, but didn't want to say it for fear of backlash as Music mentioned in an earlier post......it appears that her opinion seems to supercede others....I don't get it.

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Sigh...so many conversations going on at once......oh by the way, in case anyone was following....still waiting for an answer from the "resident scientist"......

[enfoldedblue]

This thread is...hmmm I’m not sure of the word.... chaotic... I think seems most appropriate. I believe there is energy behind words delivered here. It seems this energy Duncan has shared is a powerful one that stirs, and shakes us at deep levels. We will all likely have our own unique ways of processing this energy. I am not judging the energy, it is what it is. But I would like to suggest that it may help to be aware of how each one of us is allowing this energy to affect us and to consciously aim to be constructive rather than destructive in our approach.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
Arrowwind;

I agree that Carmody's implication seems unfair, given that there is no corresponding implication of shared responsibility, or evidence that it is not a hypocritical accusation. However, we need to bring the confrontational tone of this thread down a few notches. Speaking generally, of course, we should be careful not to presume too much.

those who presume much will be presumed upon.

[we-R-one]

I want answers enfoldedblue, cause something isn't smelling right and all the alarm bells are going off. IF people are going to use stats I want to know the source, pure and simple.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Yep, ...... I was kinda thinking the same thing, but didn't want to say it for fear of backlash as Music mentioned in an earlier post......it appears that her opinion seems to supercede others....I don't get it.
......

neither do I...

[enfoldedblue]

My post wasn't directed at anyone we-are-one . It was merely an observation and a suggestion that I felt might be useful to the thread in a general way .

[Gardener]

So well said EB, can I add to it to keep in mind how the unseen forces (not any of the members) can instigate emotional fireworks just to be divisive when a thread has importance.

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
This thread is...hmmm I’m not sure of the word.... chaotic... I think seems most appropriate. I believe there is energy behind words delivered here. It seems this energy Duncan has shared is a powerful one that stirs, and shakes us at deep levels. We will all likely have our own unique ways of processing this energy. I am not judging the energy, it is what it is. But I would like to suggest that it may help to be aware of how each one of us is allowing this energy to affect us and to consciously aim to be constructive rather than destructive in our approach.

[Flash]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
[We have tacitly agreed to the violent murder of the animal.

Buy a smartphone, and agree to the enslavement and forced labour of a Chinese person -to directly contribute to such. Or to buy a Laptop.

To live in north America, or the 'west' and not be in SERIOUS AND DIRECT conflict with your government and the involved hidden interests...., means you agree to the murder, as you accepted the citizenship and continued with the citizenship and environment of the USA, at the same time troops with that badge and governmental support, kill innocents in order to control the remaining innocents... and to control you.

You found out about it as a teen, or as an an adult, and you did nothing.

You agree.

There is no way to squirm past this. You agreed and are agreeing and are doing nothing.

?

And what exactly are you doing Carmody?
Are you in perpetual resistance?
Are you marching the streets to save animals?
Are you protesting your government to end war?
Are you resisting the one world government?
Are you spending your days mounting efforts against monsanto?
What type of labtop do you own?
how many children have you pressed into slavery through the ownership of your computer?
and what are you doing about it?
What nation are you a citizen of?
are you at the halls of government daily in your nation?
are you standing up to lying priests? tearing down halls of injustice?
Really, its time to come clean!

I most sincerely am looking to find ways to resist the monster.
Surely you must know!
Please do tell!

I can only assume that you did not agree and
are busily doing something about it.

There is no way to squirm past this.

I partly agree with the taking of responsibiities and translations into action, but, action may be shown in very different fashion, depending on who you are, your personnality, your talents, your knowledge and the right timing.

Therefore, I think you are unfait towards Carmody, at least on this forum. He has been, for years, one of the main contributor, he is definitely extremely bright and has a thorough thinking, bringing scientific knowledge as well as alchemy and spirituality, in the same person. He gives us the information he has free, generously and steadily.

Have you ever thought that his mission may be in part being in this forum for hours and hours and give us these information. Knowing that this forum has a wide readership, the information surpasses the forum frontier and may have impacts on science, scientists, as well as for spiritual development. If we have to reread the posts because the information is too complex, well, it is our job to understand it and see its depth.

Furthermore, we do not know what is life is about and precisely what is work is about, even if we may have a hazy idea, this is all, a hazy idea. And we do not know that is his spiritual work either.

This is exactly the same for you Arrowind, with your graciously communicated information of health issue and your wide knowledge in that field, including spirituality. We do know that you work with people and most probably are very helpful, but we do not know what is your direct implicaton against the Monsantos of this world for example.

And this is the same for me.

If you wrote this as a metaphor to make us conscious on how necessary is our involvement, fine. But taking Carmody or any of us as a target or asking to any of us for justification, this is not fine. Freedom of choice of action has to remain at all time, for any human being, as well as protection of personal information on an open international forum.

[Hervé]

The stats?

Plain observation: where are we now and in what state?

2000 years of Christianity;

2500 years of Budhism;

10,000 years of invoking various gods and ancestors;

Back to: Where are we now?

Has any of it ever worked to change the "where are we at, now?"

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved 13 posts from the above thread to a separate thread: Is Duncan O'Finioan really named Bobby Joe Fannin

[9eagle9]

I'm not the only person noticing that people are dragging their personal demons into a conversation about personal demons? I'd insert a lol there if were not so sobering.

I find it ironic that people with out of control emotional states fly in to to chide people about THEIR emotional states. Or even intellectual states.

It's called drui-ing. Summoning. See how subltle it is. Summon a demon. Summon a personal one or a morphological one, makes no difference. Do you think people do this intentionally or are even aware they are doing it? I'm sure they are not. Summon a personal demon to scatter a thread about something we should all know more about.

That's why its so sublte so hard to see. People's personal demons flying into scatter into knowing or self realization that might be wrought from this. I'ts no different than if you summoned some Horus Ra archetype to shut the talk down. How is it any way different if some archetypical construct does it or ...a person summons their personal demons to do it?

Duncan is an extreme symptom of what ails us all.

REMEMBER this is NOT personal . WE ALL OWN THIS PROBLEM.

Duncan: Early childhood imposition, abuse, psychic trauma, separation from who he was, auto hypnosis , alter personalities drugs, martial -corporal environment. That word alter--ALTAR. There is a reason it is named that.

We all suffer that in less extreme ways . Not by the government or MK ultra directly but by the psychic trauma that we accept as 'part of life' . Early abuse, psychic trauma, separation from who we are, auto hypnosis (tv) drugs. The difference is drugs is peddled into our food if we are not trotting down to the pharmacy for it ourselves. Duncan's had his forced into his veinous system.

Quite literally Duncan has been raped and his identity theived. So have we. I'm not sure i know of a single person who has suffered either without experiencing some anger. Fire, it motivates one to heal themselves. Fire is not really angry though, its very active.

The MK ULTRA model for creating psychic soldiers is the same programmng running in society. It's our new normal. We have no other common frame of reference (most of us.. unless you grew up on the moon). A less extreme version of the Monarch programs. Very subtle. No we don't notice it. We've had no other common frame of reference. It's our new normal because we don't know or ever had the experience of real normal.

OUR problem. It's not a pissing contest over who noticed it first .Lots of people have noticed peices of it. If people can stick on topic without summoning demons we get a larger picture. Outside and external influences brought forward to kick apart any meaning that anyone can get from other's input.

The more we need to know it the more they show up.

People like to keep this stuff hidden and not talked about . I always wonder why.

Its something common that we all share.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Very concerning that you won't answer the question Amzer Zo....

That's Amzer's right, we-R-one. We don't get to choose where other's focus their attention. Expressing annoyance at someone else's choice risks coming across as badgering, which can create a distracting emotional cross current to the main topic(s) of discussion on a thread.

Posted by we-R-one (here)
I want answers enfoldedblue, cause something isn't smelling right and all the alarm bells are going off. IF people are going to use stats I want to know the source, pure and simple.

Ditto ...

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Very concerning that you won't answer the question Amzer Zo....

That's Amzer's right, we-R-one. We don't get to choose where other's focus their attention. Expressing annoyance at someone else's choice risks coming across as badgering, which can create a distracting emotional cross current to the main topic(s) of discussion on a thread.

Posted by we-R-one (here)
I want answers enfoldedblue, cause something isn't smelling right and all the alarm bells are going off. IF people are going to use stats I want to know the source, pure and simple.

Ditto ...

Psssttt... I did answer, see post # 111 above.

[Hervé]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
The stats?

Plain observation: where are we now and in what state?

2000 years of Christianity;

2500 years of Budhism;

10,000 years of invoking various gods and ancestors;

Back to: Where are we now?

Has any of it ever worked to change the "where are we at, now?"

Meanwhile and for those same amount of years the "Programming of a Planet" and its 3D equivalent of fostering satanic mind-controlled zombies have been stealthily and relentlessly at work and expanding = "Where we are at, now."

Hence my Post # 9 conclusion:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Time to clearly discover the actual target and the actual, effective, efficient methods to do away with it.

Unfortunately, this unravelling of the programming cannot be done "en masse" but only on an individual basis... and for that I'll refer the reader to 9eagle9 posts or Truman Cash's thread as well as the Horus Ra thread or Steve Richard's thread.

[ThePythonicCow]

There were 14 posts in a row at this point in this thread that consisted almost entirely of demands, and the reaction to the demands by some posters for evidence, statistics, or explanations from other posters and had almost nothing to say about Duncan's comments. There had already been enough such demands in the posts still remaining above, and responses made thereto.

I moved those 14 posts to a separate thread: Demands for evidence continue on Duncan O'Finioan thread.

A case might be made that the emotional entanglement displayed in these 14 posts is evidence of exactly what Duncan is dealing with himself and warning us of.

[SKAWF]

in answer to the question...

what emotion should we feel when we see people selling their souls......

the answer is ..... none.

remain balanced.

dont allow yourself to be swept along by the positives or negatives of a situation.

dont feed into it.
in a state of balance, its easy to remain untouched even if you are surrounded by turmoil.

also.....

the mind.....

its just words. thats all a thought is.
its easy to take words, and apply a positive or negative connotation to them.
thats why the mind is easily stopped.
you get someone to believe in something,
then present them with a conflicting belief....
and for a while, it causes a mini brain crash.

and you can see real panic in someones eyes as they try to get some kind of grip on their own experience!

you can use the mind to try and understand what someone is saying,
but truthfully.......... you may not SEE it.

how many here have been conned by someone?

so you're there, and they are trying to get you to take the bait...
and instinctively you know it doesnt feel right,
but you dont have the knowledge to counter what they are saying,
even though you know something dodgy is going on...

so you go along with it. you allow them to convince you....... and then you get stung.

this highlights the limitations of the mind.

but we dont only have a mind.....
we have an imagination too.

the imagination gives us a much fuller picture.
i dont need to understand with my mind, because i can SEE when something is dodgy.
i dont even need to put words to the picture.

ive often said that the mind we are given, is like a psychological implant.
its not native to us.

its a snails pace in relation to intuition, and the imagination.

try to give the imagination authority over the mind. and actually see whats happening,
rather than using the mind to try and rationalize the experience.

you dont need it anyway.

why struggle to understand, that which you already know?

cheers

[Referee]

Doug Hagmann was on AJ and it all lines up with Lindsay, Duncan, Max Kieser, Gerald Celente and more. America may be looking at a financial collapse and soon.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8pBy0Qs-2pk

also, Gerald Celente on Fox Bizz.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fctmJKfaBo4

[Referee]

Duncan may be trying to tellus something like this!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y-zRSLWLSqo