An Old Post By Our Bill Ryan.

[ROMANWKT]

Thank you Amzer Zo for finding this, as I had tried and could not locate it.

Posted by Bill Ryan.
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Audio (1 minute, must listen):

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3

Transcript:
GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these were extraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from the Office of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – who said that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he knew, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

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It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all.

Regards

roman

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[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
Thank you Amzer Zo for finding this, as I had tried and could not locate it.

Posted by Bill Ryan.

First posted by Bill Ryan here: Adm. George Hoover and the Roswell secret: the real abilities that humans have (Post #2)

[ulli]

It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all.

I believe that too. At least I would like to.
But as long as one has to eat and put organic substances in one"s mouth, and as long as procreative urges require entering another person's space and even their body, the whole matter can become tricky. These issues will always be subject of negotiation, which can have outcomes that may not always be 100% to both party's liking, as long as there are time constraints involved.

[PurpleLama]

When one comes to reflect the understanding, the honor, the unity, of the universe itself, then and only then will the universe put itself behind your working. One may, however, through some knowledge and much will, manipulate the reality, regardless of one's path, be it of service to others or of self. It is not where the true power resides, what we may accomplish through our own will and desire, through our own paltry understanding. One person in harmony with the will of Universe stands to trump the PTB and all the dark mages she keeps. This they fear, and those are beyond their reach, for Universe looks after it's own.

This is not my belief, for what it's worth, it's a description, an observation. Seeing Universe doing what it does, I have no concerns whatsoever. Faith, as a matter of understanding even the slightest glimmer of the operation of the Universe, rather than Belief, imposing what thought I've come to accept as true, two very, very different things. For me, it's my business to know in regards to my own experience, for you, do what you will.

Regards to you, Roman.

[BMJ]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
[SIZE="3"][B]Thank you Amzer Zo for finding this, as I had tried and could not locate it.

Posted by Bill Ryan.
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Audio (1 minute, must listen):

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3

Transcript:
GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these were extraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from the Office of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – who said that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he knew, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

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[COLOR="blue"]It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all.

Regards

roman

You are absolutely correct about this Roman.

To all the Avalonians out there some thoughts:
-Literally "UNPLUG" your self from your regular TV shows, MSM, and iphone, ipads, twitter, face book etc.
-Never allow fear or dispair to be part of your thoughts, this is a hard one to do but trust in yourself to protect you.
-Nurture and develop your understanding of yourself by allowing your feelings or gut instincts to guide you in your life this will in turn allow yourself to become the person you want to really be.
-If you have issues in your life that are a cause for concern or fear, focus your "intent on solutions to those issues" and the isues will be resolved. Simple but honestly believe that you know the matter will be resolved and put forward your intent as a thought to resolve this issue.
-The key is to keep in mind that we know this reality is like that described in the matrix movie a "virtual construct of our intent", so if we created this we can control this reality or remould our reality to our desire.
-All this stuff we read in the alternatively media is great to know as it provides us with an understanding the true world we live in. But yet again keep this knowledge in mind but keep your focus on understanding your inner self and pratice projecting your positive intent for yourself, family, friends and the world.
-To requote Roman, I love this quote, "It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all." I agree one hundred 100%.
-Last point, all that I have said is not rocket science it is "pretty straightforward". Although different people will take different paths to the same realisation.

FYI, if we are going to win this struggle against TPTW we are not going to win by playing "their game by their rules".

To win this struggle we need to step outside their sphere of influence by creating our own game and playing by our rules, in essence by recreating our matrix. Thereby negating TPTW sphere of influence.

Think about this if each individual were to project a similiar intent e.g. peace and prosperity for mankind on earth, it wouldn't take long for that intent to snowball into something greater that being our future.

P.S. I'm glad I got that of my chest i've been wanting to say that for a long time to my fellow avalonians. Also in regards to what I said take it or live it, it's totally up to you.

[CD7]

It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all.

If such an operation exists...education towards understanding IT is all but null and void here...

Creational Consciousness is not cultivated here--if it is, it is mainly to serve paper $

Why wouldnt any faction fear such things among a population who are driving blind? Who have no idea who they really are?

[BMJ]

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Why wouldnt any faction fear such things among a population who are driving blind? Who have no idea who they really are?

TPTW have bombarded "this matrix" with distractions to cater for all tastes to ensure we stay out of touch with our inner self, and yes we are driving blind. But they fear us because they know for us to regain our power and knowledge is as simple as unpluging ourself from their reality and for each individual to reaquaint themself with their innerself.

[ROMANWKT]

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why wouldnt any faction fear such things among a population who are driving blind? Who have no idea who they really are?

BMJ
tptw have bombarded "this matrix" with distractions to cater for all tastes to ensure we stay out of touch with our inner self, and yes we are driving blind. But they fear us because they know for us to regain our power and knowledge is as simple as unpluging ourself from their reality and for each individual to reaquaint themself with their innerself.

BMJ

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[PurpleLama]

Unfortunately, too many seem to prefer the very distractions, not realizing where the richness of life resides. Like the old saying, it's not where you are, it's how you are.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
tptw have bombarded "this matrix" with distractions to cater for all tastes to ensure we stay out of touch with our inner self, and yes we are driving blind. But they fear us because they know for us to regain our power and knowledge is as simple as unpluging ourself from their reality and for each individual to reaquaint themself with their innerself.

Here I go gonna get myself in trouble again, but I think it likely there is no "us" and "them". Something more along the lines of a single, albeit fractured consciouness comes to mind.

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
tptw have bombarded "this matrix" with distractions to cater for all tastes to ensure we stay out of touch with our inner self, and yes we are driving blind. But they fear us because they know for us to regain our power and knowledge is as simple as unpluging ourself from their reality and for each individual to reaquaint themself with their innerself.

Here I go gonna get myself in trouble again, but I think it likely there is no "us" and "them". Something more along the lines of a single, albeit fractured consciouness comes to mind.

No trouble My friend, you are correct.

regards fred

roman

[WhiteFeather]

Indeed this is a good Segway to your last several threads Roman. And much obliged. Your working some magic. Thanks for keeping us aware of what we should be relying on. .......Inner-Self......

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself..... for in the inner man dwells the truth"...... St. Augustine

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Indeed this is a good Segway to your last several threads Roman. And much obliged. Your working some magic. Thanks for keeping us aware of what we should be relying on. .......Inner-Self......

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself..... for in the inner man dwells the truth"...... St. Augustine

Yes, thank you WhiteFeather,YES

Regards as ever

roman

[ulli]

When inner self is balanced then enlightenment happens automatically.
At that point the outer work begins, which is not only to help others get themselves in balance,
but also involves rebalancing the larger systems.
Those larger systems must follow the same basic principles and laws which govern the inner systems.
So there is that law "As above, so below", which makes things quite simple.

Then there is also the law of projection, which means the outer universe is reflecting what the inner being perceives,
which is exactly that part of the (collective as well as individual) subconscious which still needs to be worked on,
to become integrated. When that integration is completed, a fractal becomes perfectly balanced and a vortex opens up offering a shaft to the next higher level where the same game is then repeated, albeit at a much larger scale.

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by ulli (here)
When inner self is balanced then enlightenment happens automatically.
At that point the outer work begins, which is not only to help others get themselves in balance,
but also involves rebalancing the larger systems.
Those larger systems must follow the same basic principles and laws which govern the inner systems.
So there is that law "As above, so below", which makes things quite simple.

Then there is also the law of projection, which means the outer universe is reflecting what the inner being perceives,
which is exactly that part of the (collective as well as individual) subconscious which still needs to be worked on,
to become integrated. When that integration is completed, a fractal becomes perfectly balanced and a vortex opens up offering a shaft to the next higher level where the same game is then repeated, albeit at a much larger scale.

Wow Ulli I would never argue with that, very well said. thank you Ulli, and warmest regards to you

roman

[Operator]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

Transcript:

.... and that the military believed, and he said he knew, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

... and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

If we manipulate reality then what does interplanetary really mean ?

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

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.... and that the military believed, and he said he knew, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

... and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

If we manipulate reality then what does interplanetary really mean ?

That quite true, what does it mean, its still an illusiononal reality that exist to the mind as mind created the universe, a matrix, a program that we can have our experiences, we all share it because there is only one mind one confessions. if its us, then that would be inter-dimensional, and supposedly if its so far in the future, it could be inter-planetary, as we succeed to conquer other planets as they say, we will find out the truth one day about all the extra terrestrial being that they are dealing with which we are all to childish to be told , because we cant handle it, yeah right.

Thank you Operator at the moment any answer will do heheh

Regards

roman

Regards to you

roman

[Operator]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

Thank you Operator at the moment any answer will do heheh

My answer was inspired by the fact that the voyagers seem to have difficulty to leave our solar system.
We don't even know exactly why. Scientists are puzzled by it and can only guess.

Once again we've come to realize (no pun intended) how little we really know. It's mostly theory ...
So how did we arrive at the point where we know what planets and stars are? We didn't personally
find out ourselves but were told on school etc. We repeat the facts as solid knowledge.

A good example was in the movie "Planet 51". On that planet everyone 'knows' that the universe is
500 miles long ...

[another bob]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
[COLOR="blue"]It is my belief, and my opinion only, that when one has raised ones understanding to be able to manipulate reality around them, by clearing the path to ones beingness, one would have gone beyond the negative use of this power that resides in us all.

Greetings Roman:

1. Everyone is already manipulating their reality, via thought. In fact, your reality right now is based on your previous thought energy.

2. There is no path that needs to be "cleared to beingness", since you are already beingness. You are never separate from your beingness.

3. There is ample historical evidence of those with great powers, or siddhis, using such powers for negative purposes. For example, the great Tibetan yogi, Milarepa, once killed a whole village with an act of sorcery (this was before he met his guru Marpa and reformed himself).


ps: to answer your question from yesterday, in the "Shake Awake" thread, regarding Lester L. Thanks for the link.

Throughout history, there are people who have had some sort of exceptional experience that grants them a feeling of universal oneness, or elevation, or a taste of divinity, or deep peace, etc., and then they embark upon some effort to get others to duplicate their own experience through various prescribed methods or contrived strategies to alter behavior and belief. In fact, behind every major and minor religion, we can find some charismatic fellow who had a life-changing revelation or awakening or vision or down-load, and then went about setting down guidelines for others to follow, which (it was believed) would lead them to a similar experience. This essentially involves changing one's belief structure, or "converting" to a new set of beliefs. Whether you call it the Noble Eight-Fold path, or the Sedona Method, or accepting J. Christ as your personal savior, or whatever Scientology calls it, it all amounts to basically the same deal.

[Carmody]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
tptw have bombarded "this matrix" with distractions to cater for all tastes to ensure we stay out of touch with our inner self, and yes we are driving blind. But they fear us because they know for us to regain our power and knowledge is as simple as unpluging ourself from their reality and for each individual to reacquaint themself with their innerself.

Here I go gonna get myself in trouble again, but I think it likely there is no "us" and "them". Something more along the lines of a single, albeit fractured consciousness comes to mind.

Connectivity brings truth the point raised, and individualism gives lie to the point raised.

That the point, in some fashion, may be for the developing being to 'sort out' their own path.

This goes back to the point that whiskeymystic raised in the thread on the Qi jong master's attempt at a public display:

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by nurgle (here)
I remember watching this video years ago and thinking to myself, a real Ki Gong Master Would never engage in actual fist fight to promote himself or the art, IMO. The real Ki Gong masters I have every heard of usually demonstrate their practice by using the healing arts.

-be safe and try not to get punched in the face

Not only that, but they will not even demonstrate the full range of their capabilities to their own students until they achieve the level of maturity to handle it. I have been sent out of the room with the junior students more than once because the Master was going to give an advanced instruction that, if exposed to us too early, would create a growth barrier that we would never get past. Years later when we were ready for the instruction, we received it and incorporated it without succumbing to "spiritual materialism".

That exposure to the given high level information and capacities can cause a downward spiral to emerge in the given being, due to their development not being at a level where they don't revert to animalism in the use and continuance of themselves, and their projection into a future.

That one might say that a less experienced dimensional being from the 99% plasma/quantum/dimensional space that the very vast (that 99%) of the universe is...which is NOT SOLIDS, like we have here, in and around our avatars......that this less experienced dimensional being, while wearing and using the device we call a human body..that the autonomous program parameters of the box or body..with the wrong information at hand..may use that information to move the being inside from a fruitful path.

Due to the lack of information at hand for the given 'dimensional being' who is in the process of being 'flavored and colored' though being immersed in the viewpoint of wearing a body that has high level autonomous programming..that this being will probably go off course. That the raw steak is being put in front of the dog, before the dog grows to understand that this particular steak is not about eating. and thus the dog is going off in and on it's own, with not enough information to know what is really going on.

We all know this is true with children and how we are, ourselves, colored and shaped by the events of our lives and specifically that of our childhood.

Further, that to be here in a human body contains these sort of lessons and drives as an integral part of the lesson plan and design.... of being here in the body. the very reason for being here.

That inappropriately delivered and timed components, delivered out of sequence, to an undeveloped mentality can possess an ability to skew the development into a dangerous area.

That the undeveloped, coming to understand that such components exist..that the given undeveloped being will pout, in some fashion,and feel denied..and reach for the brass ring..for all the wrong reasons and all the wrong thoughts in the head.

"Why is it wrong to laugh and want to drag and submerge the funny cat thing in the bathtub?", the two year old will be transmitting to you. Meanwhile, you think it is funny regardless... and put the video on youtube. Not one, but two stages of unrealization or lack of development.

And that the undeveloped would also consider that it 'must be evil'.

And that the situation is that it MIGHT be "evil", that it MIGHT be some group that is also undeveloped AND in possession of the higher levels of knowing and technology, groups and beings who did bend in their development who MAY be interfering in this place, this earth.

What comes to one..is that in the end... the only way out is to not fall into line with the desires of the body, but to develop the self properly, as quickly as is possible. To allow the self to develop the information and viewpoint required to make the discernment between the viewed 'reallity' being a good thing or an evil thing.

That the gauntlet is advancing in..from all sides... and truth cannot be discerned from being in a state of undeveloped self. That the truth of what is going on does not involve the projection of human avatar desires as being the core underlying and unrealized projection of what is. That the being involved MUST raise the self, in order to find a different position of view.... that will enable the self to rise to the occasion.... and be past this dilemma.

Or one can take that path of the downward spiral and take the bait of pleasing the body.

That "good, or bad, it doesn't matter. That in front of you...is the universe - with the gun."

That the development of perception and self is the only avenue for functional clarity and a functional future that is under the realm of being driven by the self, instead of others and base desires doing the driving.