The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
hi TH and everyone, I know i stepped away from this thread a while back...but heres me checking in. I have been spending a lot of time reading many (different) things. I have learned without knowing how (in short) to be aware of my intentions which you related to 6D+. i have also been working on detachment and letting go of ego. which i think has allowed me to deconstruct my fears and 'grok' them at the same time. (sending them to source) has been working for me as well, when i am short on time, and cannot deconstruct my feelings in those moments.
i have also been working on my energy body - im learning how to activating it, feeling it, moving it, etc.
can you perhaps go into detail about ... how often is it necessary to repeat protective affirmations etc? (wakeytweaky and LB i recommend robert bruce, about psychic protection) i just started it, and it seems very appropriate. TH do you oppose this recommendation/book?

TH, i want to add, i've noticed something that i am not sure what it is, but may be related to GA, or HS. when i close my eyes at night i see a BLINDING white light from the corner of my eyes (when they are closed). when i open them the light is gone..??

Teradactyl, thank you for asking such penetrating questions. It’ll take at least two posts for me to respond to them all.

I would have been surprised if you weren’t making good progress and achieving lots of new skills and experiences, despite your busy schedule. But thank you for telling us about some of your current issues or areas of interest.

I haven’t read Robert Bruce’s ebooks or done his courses, though I have seen a few videos of his and he obviously does have much depth of experience in astral travel. I also very much like the feel of his “energies”.

I don’t know what his method of psychic protection is. Could you kindly describe it for us all briefly, perhaps? (Or maybe Wakytweaky or Libico may like to comment too?) The primary psychic protection I use is healing light. I use it everywhere, often.

I guess as a person learns to activate their natural psychic healing skills, they learn to use healing light more and more easily. But everyone has natural healing skills. It’s really just a matter of letting the healing energy (and higher D “energy” that’s really Light) flow. It feels very similar to pure love. I can usually see and access golden healing light, but some healers don’t seem to access that readily. The next best thing is a pure white, or bright white healing light. Violet healing light also works.

It’s not just a matter of saying to yourself –and, yes, intending -- that now I am accessing healing light. At least, if you’re able to feel it, then you can just say “surround me and protect me in every way throughout the time I’m doing activity X”. I find that is more than enough in most situations.

But how does a person unlock greater access to their healing energy? I guess through meditation and self-enquiry. My intuition gives me a strong indication, though, T., that you already have quite a lot of healing ability unlocked. I guess if you just imagine and try to feel that healing (or loving) Light is all around you and is protecting you throughout whatever you’re doing next, that should work very well in your case. (All affirmations should be phrased in present tense, because 6D and higher operate in the Now – or beyond time, if you like.)

While we’re on the subject of white and other colored lights, the blindingly bright white being you saw was probably one of your guardian angels. It may also have been a powerful being from a higher dimension who may be acting as a guide. Either way, it’s a big compliment to you that the being is letting you see them in 4D. It’s also evidence that you’re seeing a being who would be coming from 6D or 7D though visible as bright light in 4D. (Incidentally, my understanding is that the bright white light (probably not as bright as the one you’ve seen) that most people see when they die is themselves.)

It’s obvious that Robert Bruce teaches a lot of self-hypnosis techniques. I’ll need to devote a whole post just to my comments on that subject. I guess I approve of anything that helps people to develop and evolve higher. The tricky part is not to get stuck in possible traps or stuck at a "level" you're ready to go beyond.

[TraineeHuman]

OBEs provide direct, undeniable evidence to you that there is considerably more to you than your body, and much more to reality than the physical world. I see that as a very good step towards a person’s being ready for such things as spiritual enlightenment.

For that reason, I don’t mind so much – probably not at all -- if people use so-called “mind power” techniques, such as affirmations, to get themselves some stability with the OB experience, and to a point where the OB starts to become familiar. (They’ll probably then know that there’s nothing for them to fear. When I first started astral traveling I admit I was scared, but I always managed to see the silver-and-violet cord of light energy and I very quickly learnt it was so elastic I could make it contract smoothly and return me into my physical body in a second. That always reassured me more than enough. By the second night I was visiting other planets or moons every single night, where I actually attended various types of classes to satisfy my thirst for real knowledge. Soon it became: “Let’s see, that’s five planets away, so it must be Neptune.” I did experience some psychic attacks, but they were just good reminders to stay protected -- and not eat within 3 hours of bedtime, and get adequate rest. And I never got frightened enough by any of them to stop traveling, not for one night. So I’m thinking, what’s the big deal? Just stay protected, and know that there are beings in the 4D world who are deceptive – they put on a beautiful façade but they’re con artists. It takes all types – in that world as in this. But even in 4D you’ll soon start mixing more and more only with like-minded individuals. So all you delightful people who’ve posted on this thread should do fine. )

OK, so you’re using mechanical or self-programming means to get there. I would, however, point out that enlightenment means freedom from being controlled by anything mechanical, or by any kind of programming, including affirmations or hypnotic “commands” to oneself. Pure, complete, shining awareness is the opposite of the mechanical.

It’s surprising, when you look very carefully and nonjudgmentally and very honestly, how much of religion of whatever variety is actually just programming, including very large dollops of self-programming. But true liberation means getting fully beyond all that nonsense. I’m not saying anything new here.

From my preferred perspective, the use of affirmations and any type of programming, including any behavioral modification technique, is ultimately just a band-aid. Band-aids can be very useful, I must admit. If I cut my finger, a band-aid or two will usually protect it from infection and the risk of re-injury, while at the same time it will make it possible for me to carry out all the normal activities of my daily life. Without the band-aid I may not even be able to use my computer, or drive my car. That’s a big difference. But there comes a time when the sore has healed and the band-aids need to be put away. Psychologically speaking, there comes the time when the way to overcome a certain fear forever is to fully face it head-on, and thereby dissolve it out of existence.

In my next post I’ll do my best to respond further to Teradactyl’s questions.

[AwakeInADream]

If I may just ask a very basic question. I think that if I could relax my body more fully then I would 'be away', but when I do relax my body I tend to feel like stone.

Does feeling solid like stone (with vibration) mean I am relaxed or is this a sign of tension?

Or should I lose all awareness of my body?
(How should I feel exactly?)

You see the only success I've had is when I've been bordering on sleep, so maybe I just don't know how to relax enough?

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
... I think that if I could relax my body more fully then I would 'be away', but when I do relax my body I tend to feel like stone.

Does feeling solid like stone (with vibration) mean I am relaxed or is this a sign of tension?

Or should I lose all awareness of my body?
(How should I feel exactly?)

You see the only success I've had is when I've been bordering on sleep, so maybe I just don't know how to relax enough?

I guess it’s a little like watching the breath. I’ve found that watching the breath seems to be the most effective method of meditation for most Western people. What I like about it particularly is that people have to let their breath take control of them. This means that anything they may try to do “correctly” is automatically wrong because it has to be dropped in favor of the breath taking over. The breath has to do it, not you.

Similarly, you need to let go of the mind’s asking the question: “Am I doing astral travel correctly?” Or any other question, including: "Why does my body feel like stone?" You just let go to the experience. Don’t you do the relaxing. Let the relaxing do you. Trust it with your life. Really let go. Let it worry about the answers to all these questions. If the body feels like stone, you stay with "relaxed". Don't imagine that anything you feel, like your body being stone, is a problem. It's just ordinary. No, you don't completely switch off your awareness of your body. You leave it in the background, and don't make a big deal about it. Just let it be. You very probably won't die, so don't worry. When I started astral traveling, mostly I woke up during the night and would find I was already off somewhere. It sounds like that may be the best way for you too.

The human mind is an incredible thing. It can sometimes do the seemingly impossible rather effortlessly. Yes, your body does feel like stone if you’ve gone into 4D. Presumably, then, Awake, I would say you’re going into 4D for a moment and then your mind says: “That body feels too heavy,” so then you return to your body. But please don't think about the previous sentence while you'e doing your relaxing!

Uggh. My head feels all twisted up now. Got to switch the computer off and go visit the trees down the street.

[AwakeInADream]

Thank's TH! I feel like the only thing that is stopping me now, is just the smallest thing called 'letting go'. All of the other preparation is taken care of thank's to you! Next time it happens I will be brave....


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Ah! Watching the breath, you see I used to worry about the breath thinking that if I focused on the breath then I wouldn't be able to leave my body because the breath constantly reminds you that the body is there. That when relaxed, the only motion you feel is the chest rising up and down. So that seems a little counter intuitive to me.

Still, what I'm doing isn't working so I will give watching the breath a try.

Perhaps I should think of the breath as a spiritual motion rather than a physical movement?

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)

Ah! Watching the breath, you see I used to worry about the breath thinking that if I focused on the breath then I wouldn't be able to leave my body because the breath constantly reminds you that the body is there. That when relaxed, the only motion you feel is the chest rising up and down. So that seems a little counter intuitive to me.

Still, what I'm doing isn't working so I will give watching the breath a try.

Perhaps I should think of the breath as a spiritual motion rather than a physical movement?

I actually meant that relaxation is analogous to the way watching-the-breath meditation is based on letting the breath take over.

But I find that if I meditate for long enough (no matter how grounded I am at the start) it certainly will disconnect most physical sensation and take me into 4D, 5D, 6D. So yes, you may like to try that too.

Our education system teaches us to think, but doing stuff like this is a matter of looking, not thinking. Even more primarily, it's a matter of just being, rather than looking. You need to decide to deliberately disengage from your thinking mind. You can do that.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
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can you perhaps go into detail about abilities in 6D+? and also how often is it necessary to repeat protective affirmations etc?

I can talk a little about how intentions work. Unfortunately I didn’t learn astral travel by using intention or affirmations, the way it seems most Western people do these days. So I may not have enough relevant experience to say much about that specific application of intention. But I hope the following helps anyway.

If you really want to make something happen, you need to hold a certain point of view still, strongly enough and long enough and often enough. Period. Holding something still is always done from the dimension above it. So, holding a particular point of view still is a very subtle, gentle, quiet thing. But it’s deceptively powerful. Most of psychotherapy (except that eventually there’s a more advanced stage) involves unearthing and identifying what the particular points of view are that make a person behave the way they do – especially the points of view that cause problems. But psychotherapy’s another story.

Let’s say you can hold a certain viewpoint still – such as, say, the viewpoint that it’s easy for you to learn, or master, astral travel in such a way that you’re able to see everything in the 4D world easily and often. (Always word it in present tense. Otherwise, the wording implies two conflicting messages: currently it’s not happening, and at some unspecified time in the future it will happen.) To reduce the impact of any other viewpoints lurking in your subconscious that might conflict with this viewpoint, you also consciously hold the intention still that it will be so.

That intention then automatically holds the concept, the thought, still that it’s going to be just as you say. I guess I’ll need to discuss the Law of Attraction at some point, but I think I’ll save that, and also the subject of beliefs, for the next post.

But do practice holding a point of view still. As I mentioned regarding intention in an earlier post, you should try to hold a point of view that’s for the highest good of all. It’s OK to hold the view that you’re a wonderful actor or salesperson or whatever, because you’re on a kind of level playing field with other actors / salespeople /etc. But try holding a point of view such as that you light up any room you enter, or you lift the mood of everyone around you, or you’re a valuable asset to your employer, and so on. And keep practicing holding it. It won’t work overnight, usually.

[AwakeInADream]

Hi TH! It seems I received your answer in post#266 within a dream before I'd even read it:


I've just woke up from the strangest dream in which I was practicing going OBE with great success, but on my second return to my body I opened my eyes and found myself awake in my bed. I wondered for a few seconds where I was because I had expected to be returned to the place I was practicing(in a cave) within the dream. So that confused me as to weather it was a real OBE or just a dream, but still it's a good sign that I am preparing my self on two plains of existence.

Another strange feature of this dream was that I was receiving telepathic instructions from someone I couldn't see(HS?), on how the mind worked in this place. One thing that I was shown was to take the texts of three different novels and view them side by side all at once, at which point my analytical mind jumped in saying 'That's ridiculous!, I don't have a photographic memory!', but there it was in the dream I had the ability to 'think' fully about three different things at once.

One image I saw, which might be symbolically relevant here was a very long antenna that went maybe five miles up, and I knew that the receiver at the top was broken. I had to face the frightening thought of climbing all the way up there in order to fix it(I guess I'd forgotten I could fly?).

I'm thinking now that I should perhaps watch the thoughtless mind, as if watching the breath, and that if I go with the flow then perhaps this higher functioning mind would just take over. It seems my dream is answering my questions in a similar way to you TraineeHuman!

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
... I was receiving telepathic instructions from someone I couldn't see(HS?), on how the mind worked in this place. One thing that I was shown was to take the texts of three different novels and view them side by side all at once, at which point my analytical mind jumped in saying 'That's ridiculous!, I don't have a photographic memory!', but there it was in the dream I had the ability to 'think' fully about three different things at once.

Yes, even in upper 4D you can listen to many conversations -- or read many different books -- simultaneously without missing a detail in any of them.

One image I saw, which might be symbolically relevant here was a very long antenna that went maybe five miles up, and I knew that the receiver at the top was broken. I had to face the frightening thought of climbing all the way up there in order to fix it(I guess I'd forgotten I could fly?).

If you want to know what that symbol/picture meant, I would suggest your HS was saying that going to a much higher dimension would be too hard a task for you right now. I guess your HS is saying you need to be patient on that score, although it seems you're ambitious enough to want to try. But of course, you've done very well as it is.

Interesting that you may have remotely read post #266 while you were away from your computer. In the first two years when I was astral traveling, I would frequently read a book in my bedroom without remembering in the morning that I had done so. It was a great way to study. And I found that if I wanted to deeply ponder some page of any book, all I needed to do was leave it open in my bedroom at the appropriate page.

[TraineeHuman]

A belief is a corrupted point of view, usually. Not always. But I say “corrupted” because many beliefs seem to get stated or held as if they were the one and only truth.

The difference is that when you quietly hold a point of view still you don’t “lay it on” anyone else. You appreciate there may be other, equally valid viewpoints you might have taken. But for your purposes, you have decided to filter everything through the assumption that your viewpoint is going to materialize and keep materializing within your own universe – your own universe being the whole universe, but as viewed by you.

Next, the Law of Attraction. Yes, such a law exists in many dimensions. But it gets modified by various other laws. Many of these laws can be summarized by saying that what you intend needs to be for the highest good of all. There’s a lot of room at the top, though. If everybody became excellent, everything in our lives would have better quality – like, we would all be wealthier together -- and everything would be less destructive to the environment and to disadvantaged people.

Imagine you send yourself a cheque for a billion dollars. Then you hold the viewpoint and the intention very, very still, with huge certainty that that amount of money is going to materialize in your bank account. The question is, have you considered all the consequences of what might happen if that were true? Have you considered how it might happen? What if the way it came true was that you were conscripted into the Mafia, or into the US Presidency (if there’s any huge difference)?

In addition, what happens with intentions is that there’s always a huge battle going on “above” regarding which intention will win out. Most likely your intention won’t materialize, if it strongly impacts others in a way that disadvantages. In that case, your intention will probably bend the outcome a little bit in the direction you wanted, because what materializes is the nett “weighted average”.

If your intention is to do with improving yourself, though, there won’t be much competition, if any. Maybe you have a parent or friend who doesn’t really approve of you learning to astral travel, even if that is likely to contribute to your spiritual evolution. But you’re very likely to hold your point of view regarding such questions with much greater determination than others do.

Sri Aurobindo said that a person should always aim to do extraordinarily well, and then they will do excellently; if they aim to be excellent, they will be very good; if they aim to be very good, they’ll do OK; if they just shoot for OK, they may well perform poorly.

One point to remember is that some of Bruce’s techniques would be to help you get over any inner resistance or feelings of unfamiliarity or fear. That’s a bit like certain techniques to help a person not be nervous when they do an exam. In this case it’s important to remember that the techniques will ultimately aim to help you to let go. That may sound like a contradiction if the techniques involve things like affirmations, but it isn’t really. It’s important, though, that people don’t forget that such techniques are a boat to get you to the point where you can let go easily. At that point the boat gets left behind, for the moment.

Teradactyl, if this isn’t what you wanted me to talk about, please feel do free to comment further about what you’re interested in or concerned about.

[Chester]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
The following is a quote from Sri Aurobindo’s Letters on Yoga , pp. 397-398:

“What has to be done [with regard to the hostile forces] is to come to live in the Power that these things, these disturbing elements cannot penetrate or, if they penetrate, cannot disturb, and to be so purified and strengthened by it that there is in oneself no response to anything hostile.

“If there is a protecting envelopment, an inward purifying descent and, as a result, a settling of the higher consciousness in the inner being and finally, its substitution even in the most external outwardly active parts in place of the old ignorant consciousness, then the world and the hostile forces will no longer matter – for one’s own soul at least; for there is [also] a larger work not personal in which of course they will have to be dealt with …”

This sort of attainment of inner Power may at first sound way too ambitious, or too hard, to achieve. Yet it seems to me that Chester has worked out that achieving this Power is his eventual goal. He also seems to have worked out that he can realistically do it, and that he seems to be about halfway there. In some ways, no doubt, he is already there. (It’s also great to see somebody working with so much inspiration (9D) and insights (8D).)

Certainly he is sufficiently there that he presumably no longer fears – well, anything, practically. Certainly – if I understand correctly -- he does not have any problem regarding meeting negative beings or entities in his lucid dreams. If nothing else works, he knows how to wake himself up quickly and be quite out of the bad dream.

This, then, is the best answer I can come up with regarding anyone’s fears or feelings of unsafeness with regard to OB travel – apart from also protecting oneself and grounding oneself beforehand.

If Chester can do it, after the very tough childhood he went through, surely others of you can too, if you work on yourselves in somewhat a similar way to what Chester has done and continues to do. I don’t believe it’s necessary to develop yourself to the point where negative forces don’t make the least impression on you at all. But maybe you can learn to stay strong enough that negative forces don’t have the ability to upset you so much any more. For me, daily meditation has been and remains a powerful way to fill oneself up with positivity, so to speak, that is perhaps too strong to be overcome by the miseries of the jungle we know as civilization.

But really, I don’t care how you do it. Just get yourself into a very positive space (where you still have control of your faculties). From there, practice astral travel or OB travel, and the scary entities and beings will leave you alone. At least, that’s been my experience.

Hi and thanks for mentioning my journey - and thanks for the PMs to prompt a response.

I am in quite a new place these days. It is very hard to respond because the compliments of TH are... very complimentary - but setting aside false pride (if I can) I am striving to be the seed of the 10th dimension I believe has somehow been implanted in me - that's all I can say about that but I had a profound experience years ago related to the 10th dimension and finally, after waiting somewhere near 13 years, it is all starting to come together.

TH said something I need to address from my perspective. My childhood has extended up until just recently, so yes, I have had a difficult "childhood," but the way I see it, I created so much of it. And I have deep regrets because along the way i hurt lots of people. I don't mean physically... I mean this - it seems that most of us try and carve out a safe place for ourselves as we move through our lives. In this process, we develop friendships and when we do, we take risks that the person we are befriending remains the same in the way we feel comfortable with that person.

Well, I have changed radically throughout much of my life and so unless a friend has been able to adjust their expectations of me, they usually ended up disappointed. This is because I always did crazy, out of the box things and folks didn't understand.

But now, and as long as I remain totally drug and alcohol free, I have been able to reconcile myself. I also must adhere to rigorous honesty along with maintaining the best discernment possible as to what I should say, to whom and when.

And then I must vigilantly take the high road in every way possible. Especially guarding my anger as when it ramps up, I become the worst I can be. No one deserves that energy.

And I hope that I can be helpful for others as I have found only when I do so am I truly happy. So its selfish of me to be selfless (I call this my NancyV lesson - an honest one... haha).

TH helped me a ton. So have a ton of folks on this forum. I truly did all this through this forum. And there's more to go... far far more to go.

Three or so nights ago I had the most strangest dream sequence ever. I was in Colombia and had a 4 part dream where I literally woke up three different times, went back to sleep and the dream continued.

It was an "alien invasion" for real. Eerily similar to "the War of Worlds" with "my brother" Tom Cruise. In the first segment I was standing near a highway and was with a crowd and we were watching these ships and then one of them suddenly fired some weapon down on the street and Boomo... then I woke up, then I went back to sleep and soon found myself again dreaming but this time it was similar to when they "aliens" were coming down in lightening but it was the reverse - instead, human "souls" were being sucked up into alien vortexes. Then I woke up again. Then after going back to sleep once more, I saw the aliens were dying just like in that Cruise movie. Then again I awoke and then I went back to sleep once more and the last phase was after the knowing (or thinking) that all the aliens had died, suddenly one of their ships popped out from underneath the ground and escaped our atmosphere and then I awoke again. I recall wondering if the few who had escaped death might one day come back and come back stronger.

And I had no fear of this dream. No negative feelings. It was very vivid. I actually, strangely enjoyed it. I love when I have dreams events like this.

I know because of the peace I feel in my life these days, no aliens are ever going to "get me." Perhaps I am already gotten hahaha so what is there to get?

It really boils down to one thing and one thing only and that is - who/what is my creator. How I decide the answer to that is by deciding who/what I am. How I decide that is by a simple process of elimination as to simply this - what is acceptable.

What is acceptable and only acceptable to me is that I (and us all) am a perfect child of my creator, immortal and eternal. And for me to be that, I (and us all) must have a loving creator. I always see this creator as a mother/father union of love. I may just be dumb and stubborn but that's the only thing acceptable to me and so i just live my life under this assumption. I don't have a single enemy anymore, and the only one I ever really had was actually and only myself.

So when i said, if I can do it, anyone can - I meant that because in my earlier years I was a real scoundrel. If I can be redeemed, I guarantee you anyone can.

[TraineeHuman]

Chester, it seems to me your post speaks for itself. You sound to me like you're close to the realization and acceptance that you create (as each of us individually creates) everything that you experience. In a way, I would say that's when the fun begins. When I say "fun", I don't mean the word sarcastically, but I mean finding joy everywhere. You may not realize you're getting to that point, and no doubt it could take maybe some years.

We all have weak spots, such as you have your anger. Being honest about them and facing them is what gradually takes away their power, and that seems to be exactly what you're doing in a way we can all learn from.

And if your old friends can't keep up with you because you're changing so much, you of course find new friends at a "higher level", as you have.

[soleil]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
I don’t know what his method of psychic protection is. Could you kindly describe it for us all briefly, perhaps? (Or maybe Wakytweaky or Libico may like to comment too?) The primary psychic protection I use is healing light. I use it everywhere, often.

hey guys, basically his book is a nice add on to learning to OBE i suppose. he goes into detail about common negative's and the book it and of itself is a "handbook" for protection etc. he suggests to learn to use your energy body. there is a nice intro to how to do this in his book 'mastering astral projection in 90 days' by robert bruce. he essentially says relax your body, and learn to activate (he recommends to use a pen or ruler to scratch or tickle with) your energy body all over starting with the bottom of your feet, tops of your feet, shins to knees, backs of legs, back/front of thighs, finger knuckles, fingers, hands, arms, all the way up front/back of your arms, etc. you can try your face too, but it gets confusing because you can start to throb or buzz in your head and it can mess up where you are focusing on.

the easiest way to LEARN to activate is to scratch for example the knuckle of your index finger where it is on the back of your hand. scratch the area in a small circle, and feel the feeling. the residual feeling is the energy body feeling you can learn to move it with your 'imagination'.

robert bruce says imagination and visualization is the SAME thing. so if you think you cant visualize, but you can IMAGINE a house on a hill, then you can visualize. period.

i have found that when i am more often tired at the end of the day i can at the very least do energy body awareness work while falling asleep.

ONCE you are pretty good at this, your body stops throbbing and vibrating. simply because it doesnt take that much energy/concentration/awareness anymore to do it. essentially its easier and therefore less noticeable. anyways, once this is easy for you, and you want to use this as a method of healing, you may visualize a 'sword/blowtorch/knife' anything to cut attachment, and or clean energy. if you can imagine ultra violet light you can do more healing, than other colours, like white, or pink etc. this colour also raises your and the negative attachments energy therefore eliminating the negative by healing it as well in a way.

there are more i'm sure, because i'm only HALF way into the book. i'll be glad to share more as i read them.

[soleil]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
My intuition gives me a strong indication, though, T., that you already have quite a lot of healing ability unlocked. I guess if you just imagine and try to feel that healing (or loving) Light is all around you and is protecting you throughout whatever you’re doing next, that should work very well in your case. (All affirmations should be phrased in present tense, because 6D and higher operate in the Now – or beyond time, if you like.)

TH, yes 'healing' has propelled me to begin to learn reiki from my cousin this coming spring. she is a newly attuned reiki master, so its perfect timing if that is what i want to do.

also, i happened to receive a palmistry session as a gift, which (shocker) presented that i'm a "lifetime learner of the occult/healer/healing"...

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
the blindingly bright white being you saw was probably one of your guardian angels. It may also have been a powerful being from a higher dimension who may be acting as a guide. Either way, it’s a big compliment to you that the being is letting you see them in 4D. It’s also evidence that you’re seeing a being who would be coming from 6D or 7D though visible as bright light in 4D. (Incidentally, my understanding is that the bright white light (probably not as bright as the one you’ve seen) that most people see when they die is themselves.)

now that i think of your comment on this, and my previous experiences. i have been calling my GA at night to watch over us, as sometimes the three of us end up falling asleep in our big bed. man are they ever bright. its light a sunny day in the middle of a snowy winter day kind of bright! its really great to 'see' them this close.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
...yes 'healing' has propelled me to begin to learn reiki from my cousin this coming spring. she is a newly attuned reiki master, so its perfect timing if that is what i want to do.

also, i happened to receive a palmistry session as a gift, which (shocker) presented that i'm a "lifetime learner of the occult/healer/healing"...

Reiki seems to attract the loveliest people, but it seems to diminish some people’s natural healing skill. That’s been my observation, and also independently it’s been that of a very powerful, very expert healer and psychic who was my teacher for a number of years. I’ll try to discuss this in more detail below. I appreciate that some people get offended when I’m candid in stating the truth as best I know it. But I’ve always done that on this Forum. Since I’ve been a psychic healer since childhood, I’d like to think there’s at least some substance to my observations here.

On the other hand, I can be more effective as a healer because I have learnt how to “read” anyone’s nervous system in a certain way. This involves being able to tap into their energy both at a physical level (3D) and at an emotional level (4D) and at a level of fixed ideas and picture memories and picture-“movies” (5D). It took years of practice to learn to do this, but mainly it’s just a matter of practicing – being a psychic sticky-beak, I guess. (Learning to "be one with" the other person.) It does help a huge amount if you’re good at meditating. I don’t know whether reiki teaches a person how to do that sort of “reading” of a person, though I suspect Robert Bruce’s exercises for astral travel may be applied to it, to a certain degree.

But one thing I quickly do before a psychic healing on someone physically present is to scan their body. You can do this too. Simply close your eyes and go from top to bottom of their body “looking” for dark areas. Wherever it’s dark, there’s a health problem of some sort. If you don’t seem to have such x-ray vision, keep practising and practising until you do. You can also feel all the dark areas by moving your hands about several inches above the skin. Any part of the body that feels cold, that’s where there’s a dark area. If the person has had an operation, usually there’ll be a line of darkness for years at the place where their body was cut. You can do this with your own body too, and find out where the weak areas are physically.

Next, a meter or so away from the client, I raise my hands and point them towards the client and just use intention and go into pure being as far as possible, rather than doing, except for that intention. This is quite holistic, whereas as far as I can gather systems like reiki aren’t so holistic.

What I actually see, without trying to, are one or more dark areas. They are the areas needing healing energy. I let my hands move a little if they want to, and I may move closer if my body seems drawn to do so. Sometimes the dark areas seem strange. Occasionally exactly half of the client’s energy field – the right side or the left side –seems to become mostly dark, for instance. Or I was healing a woman who had had an abortion and I didn’t know what the problem was. But it was like the bottom half of her body had gone so dark it seemed to somehow be sucking all the rest of her into it. All it took to heal that was five minutes of energy flowing wherever it wanted, while I let go and did my best to do nothing.

If I’m doing a remote healing, I still do the “x-ray scan” of the client’s body at the beginning, but then I get pictures like from snippets from movies, and symbols, all much like watching parts of the client’s dreams. From these it’s quite clear in a general way what the underlying psychological problem(s) is. But by my facing that the client becomes able to face it (maybe only after a few healing sessions), and hence to disappear it. Usually the physical problem(s) is a direct expression of the underlying psychological problem, such as “not standing fully on one’s feet”, “not taking steps forward”, “carrying too big a load on one’s back, or shoulders”, and so on.

I can also do psychological healing remotely, which isn’t so different from physical healing remotely. When I visited some members OB, and also in the attempted group exercise, as far as I know I contacted them at a 6D or 5D level, but they usually weren’t able at the time to be consciously aware of connecting with that part of themselves. I guess I learnt some new and different skills from these explorations, too.

[TraineeHuman]

What makes Source Source is its great creativity, right? Surely, then, we will be acting in a similar way to Source if we bring great creativity into everything we do and every situation we are in. And equally, if we don’t bring great creativity, then we won’t really be acting anything like Source would – or not fully, will we?

In this post I want to talk a little about what’s involved in and what exists in the highest dimensions. All my experience relevant to this tells me that it can all be understood purely in terms of creativity.

I guess many members would prefer to say it’s all about love, and not all about creativity. Well, love without understanding is often ineffective and helpless, and may even be counter-productive – as we’ve all experienced with at least one of our parents at some time. Incidentally, love where there’s any attachment at all certainly isn’t true love, even.

We tend to think of creativity as something somewhat confined to practitioners of the fine arts. But what I’m talking about is creativity applied to the most mundane situations, to literally everything, all the headaches. Psychologists who have studied creativity have determined that most or maybe all creativity is problem-solving. So, it means kind of magically transforming every problem into a beautiful butterfly, so to speak.

The great philosopher Wittgenstein claimed that the answer to every question (or problem) is implicit in the question itself. Well, I would say that isn’t quite correct. Rather, the meaning of the answer is contained in the meaning of any question.

I’m mentioning this because I would instead say that Einstein was correct when he said that it’s impossible to solve any problem at the level it was created.

You have to take things up at least one level. That’s what creativity always does, with a vengeance. It rises above every conflict. It cuts the Gordian knot of any problem by finding something much better than either side of the dispute.

And as any creative artist can tell you, creativity only occurs when you totally surrender anything that’s “you” to the process, to something much greater than yourself.

Also, creativity is something you never do to benefit yourself, but to benefit creativity itself. Certainly, anywhere in your everyday life where you apply creativity – such as being pro-active in your work or your relationships – you will usually benefit as a spin-off of you bringing benefit to others.

Why am I even mentioning all this in this thread? Because it’s quite possible to practice creativity as an exercise. Practice it masterfully enough and ultimately all the time, and I claim you will automatically find you are in the highest dimensions of all. For a description of the exercise plus some comments by Teradactyl, please see post #56 in the following thread https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post624697

[soleil]

i saw a great post by kiwielf from vivek's thread...

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Heya Vivek - cool post

I used to be able to do it (OOBE) pretty easily as a teen. Have read Monroe's book but I learned more from one that may not be quite so well known today. Lobsang T. Rampa's "You Forever". (He covers the whole kaboodle: Astral Projection, clairvoyance, Akashic Record, Telepathy, the Etheric, Auras etc.

I used to lay down flat on my back (apparently is best if you're head is North and feet South-aligned - altho managed it without doing this), light clothing and arms hands down to your side. Concentrate on your breathing and relax with a bit of pre-med of your intention. It's like dropping off to sleep but staying awake - if that makes any sense. I became aware of a light floaty sensation - and then a "rush"... a "Zoooooom" with intense feeling of everything being electrified and incredible speed.

I'd liken it to the ENTERPRISE going into Warp. Where you think, you ARE . I could go through walls, fly, instantly be wherever I wanted and yet everything is eerily incandescent... A couple of times I got "stuck" coming back and my body felt like lead - like it wasn't connected - I guess some people would call that sleep paralysis. (Haven't seen a silver cord or looked at myself yet).

I could clearly hear voices far away and even set up an experiment with a friend, we both agreed whoever "got out" first would come visit the other.

Well I managed it first, had never actually visited his house but just by concentrating on him, I was there, in his room. He was reading a book and looked up - straight at me. Only lasted a few seconds tho. Next day I was able to tell him in detail what was in his room, what he was doing and looking straight at me. He freaked! He said it had felt like "something or someone was there".... (hmmm like seeing a ghost).

When I did get to actually visit him for real I was quite shocked to see his room exactly as I'd seen it.

One of the last times I achieved it, some years further on, the experience was really weird - scary in fact. As I was getting into the initial "floaty sensation", I felt what could be called hands lightly pressing on my body although I couldn't see anything. Something or someone (like the proverbial voice in my head) was saying "No, you don't want to do this right now... look over there..." I saw the most horrible looking "thing" I've seen and it reeked of pure evil. It looked like some kind of demon you'd see in a horror flick - very draconian/reptilian-looking with glowing eyes standing very near me in a full cloak holding some kind of staff or stick. Whoa,.. snapped out of it with a real fright and never really tried it again after that.

The last time it happened was spontaneous. I'd spent the whole of a rainy afternoon and very late night reading Queen of the Damned, third book in the "Interview with a Vampire" series. (Such a great read, couldn't put it down till I finished

Anyways, went off to bed and within a short time, almost asleep, "something" was climbing in the bed with me. Today I'd put that down as an Incubus/sucubus experience! LOL. Felt VVVERery real. It wasn't scary but very sexual. (Gonna stop on the details of that one now).

All the other times - with the exception of the scary entity - were amazing little "journeys". (I could never seem to stay out more than about 20-30 mins at a time)

and also the book link from raf .

Posted by raf
There is a good free e-book about it out there. It´s called School Of Out-Of-The-Body travel, a practical guide.

Here´s the link:

http://www.obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf

It´s pretty practical indeed and should get you started easily.

Cheers,

Raf.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
...[Robert Bruce] suggests to learn to use your energy body [including for psychic protection].

Everyone should learn to really master their energy body and the energy flows within it. It’s not optional. Why? Because the way the ego keeps anyone trapped and limited is through various complexes of emotions. And those emotions work through energy flows and energy structures in you.

Also, everyone should do it because this is one step towards reclaiming the greater powers we were meant to have naturally.

Robert Bruce’s exercises would seem to teach a person how to do this, at some basic level at least.

… robert bruce … essentially says relax your body, and learn to activate (he recommends to use a pen or ruler to scratch or tickle with) your energy body all over starting with the bottom of your feet, tops of your feet, shins to knees, backs of legs, back/front of thighs, finger knuckles, fingers, hands, arms, all the way up front/back of your arms, etc. you can try your face too, but it gets confusing because you can start to throb or buzz in your head and it can mess up where you are focusing on.

This is so easy, but it explains a few puzzles, at least for me. One puzzle has been that my experience of the vibrations hasn’t been as a gate to astral travel, except on rare occasions. Instead, in some periods of my life it’s been a recharge of my body when I hadn’t had enough sleep. What I’ve experienced has been that the vibrations would come and refresh my body in about five minutes, by traveling through it, mainly from the feet to the head. And that after such a recharge, I would feel very refreshed and need no further sleep for a day, even if I had had no sleep at all the previous night. It would be interesting to know whether people such as David Wynn Miller – who apparently never sleeps – and Dawn – who didn’t sleep for nine years – were using this, or some subtle variation of it, perhaps unknowingly, as their means of staying awake.

Another puzzle was when I used to be married and my wife would sometimes get electric shocks just from touching me, or from my touching her. She seemed to experience the kind of shock you get from, say, 240 volts, only milder.

I eventually worked out that she only got the shocks during those periods when she felt depressed or otherwise really down. My understanding is that you can get in touch with your energy body and get the energy to flow more strongly, and everyone should do so. But there are also what some call “energy leaks”, and nearly everyone has them. Getting stuck in something like depression is an example of a really huge hole in the dike. Any kind of resistance – such as Teradactyl feeling perhaps very tired at the end of a day’s work—is also what I regard as a minor energy leak for that day. So I find it very interesting that Teradactyl says that Bruce’s exercise of scratching or tickling one’s energy body (and physical body too, I take it?) seems to suffice to regain what was lost through an energy leak such as the tiredness.

[TraineeHuman]

The physical world is more polarised than the 4D world. But the level of energy is stronger in 4D than 3D, so to speak. That’s why in 4D, where we still see colors, the colors are brighter. In fact, everything sensual feels more strongly so in 4D – you could say it feels “more real”. But it is necessary for you to be used to having that higher level of “physical” energy, or life-energy or ch’i or prajna or whatever you may call it, if you want to experience the 4D world (more easily).

There are many practices which seem to work to keep your energy level raised. What’s important here is that you use at least one of them. Many people seem to need to keep practicing these regularly for many years. It looks like Robert Bruce’s exercises are enough, if you keep practicing. There is a huge variety of others. Hatha yoga, aikido, t’ai chi, q’i gong, bodywork of many different kinds, maybe even just taking energy in from the sun long enough every day, if you know how to do it. But many people engaged in practicing sitting meditation find they also need to engage in some more direct way of energizing the physical body. You need to spend time just becoming aware of the flow of energy, and emotions, through your body, and of how much and how often that flow influences your daily life.

Our physical body is the part of us that lives in the physical world. But none of us lives only in the physical world. We use our 4D emotions and feelings and our 5D thoughts to make sense of it and experience it. Actually, we all also use higher dimensional parts, as I’ve recently been pointing out. For example, we all use and acquire points of view, which are 7D. You could say that every higher dimension has a physical part – each higher dimension makes our experience of the physical world richer, and adds meaning to it. But if we operate at a higher level of plain old physical energy, then not all of that energy will get used up just to keep our body functioning. There’ll be more energy left over for the higher dimensional parts of ourselves to manifest in the physical.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
... robert bruce... essentially says relax your body, and learn to activate (he recommends to use a pen or ruler to scratch or tickle with) your energy body all over starting with the bottom of your feet, tops of your feet, shins to knees, backs of legs, back/front of thighs, finger knuckles, fingers, hands, arms, all the way up front/back of your arms, etc....

“Meditation means being relaxed and aware at the same time (over some continuous period).” That’s a common definition of meditation, and I believe it’s quite accurate (well, maybe “still” would be better than “relaxed”). Notice how this is some sort of parallel of the basic instruction for astral travel of:

“Relax your body, but stay (physically) awake.”

But is it so easy to be aware?

Well, I would suggest most people are very good at concentrating – which at least gives us something to work from. We are all taught how to concentrate well by the education system.

In my case I was very bad at learning it in early high school. I would be too busy daydreaming or going off onto more interesting tangents. For the first two years of high school I upfront refused to do any homework. That was at a time when that simply wasn’t done, at least not where I went to school. I believe what I disliked about homework the most was that it always involved a seemingly meaningless game of memorizing or conceptualizing.

Unfortunately, in retrospect I’m pretty sure I gave at least one teacher a bad constant headache. Today I can see that an underlying purpose of homework was to develop students’ concentration skills. But at thirteen I had a strong feeling there was something better. Today I’d prefer to talk of “one-pointedness” instead of “concentration”. But that still doesn’t guarantee you the “something better” which is awareness.

Avalonians sometimes use the term “awake” to mean sociopolitically aware. For instance, if a person is awake about bank bailouts, or a thousand other things. That means that the person can see more than the outer appearance, and get to the heart of the reality.

But what does “aware” mean in relation to energy fields and energy flows? Buhlmann and others advise to say: “Awareness now!” or “Clarity now!” to turn on your 4D vision and feeling. But that presupposes you already know what awareness and clarity are in this situation, that you have already mastered them.

Meditation – particularly the Zen style, or the watching the breath practice – does develop a person’s awareness in appropriate ways. And this, folks, is why I suggest meditation is probably advisable for developing your ability to travel or be OB, or to do it better, and better.

What meditation gradually does is reveal the true self (or the no-self) by giving you (or “you”) the experience of separating it – from the mind, body, and personal history. Underlying all these is the pure “I”, which is simply full awareness itself.

Before you get to a full experience of that deepest “I”, though, you’ll get some real sense at least of an “I” that you can distinguish from the purely physical “I”, i.e. the body.

It’s not such a big step to then eventually experience how your consciousness (which is your awareness and will merged into one) can move down into your physical body; but equally it can also move up into various higher levels, which include the astral.

May I add one small tip, which might perhaps be useful to AwakeInADream. Any time you come up with a blank, you’re trying to use your mind beyond the limits where it can go. It’s a signal that you need to get more experience – which implies turning off the mind just for the short term. Any time you get a blank, simply let go of the mind.