The male abuse of women

[778 neighbour of some guy]

In the picture is my mother sitting next to me, the strongest woman I know on this planet, what it is that makes her strong has been ability to adapt for better or for worse, I don't have a single picture with my fathers face on it, only his legs, on every picture I have of this man he has his face turned away from the camera.

Anyway, this woman got pregnant at 16, was forced into marriage at 17, when I was 5 she left me alone at home when I came out of school ( I was and still am VERY responsible and can handle myself), this was because she chose to study social sciences and provide and income for me although she was very much aware of the implications for me being all by myself but she trusted me and I trusted her.

She divorced my father when I was 5, a depressed alcoholic who's life I f@cked up just by being born, as it so happened this feller also went to the same University to study social sciences as my mother did, this was in the mid 70ties ( I am from '71),
anywho, women's lib was a hot item in those days and my mother drowned herself in that to get a handle on things as a single mom, fighting for an equal chance for her and me.

Now the seed donor ( this father chap) without any self respect or self esteem on a continuous guilt trip ( he still does, just stopped drinking, now on anti depressants or as I call them, a prescribed buzz) decided to lose his balls and went along screaming for women's lib harder then the women themselves, started wearing make up ended up sexually confused and tried to pass this along to me, me not understanding why said no thank you sir, what the f are you trying to pull off here?

To make a long story short, this neutered spineless chap who decided to make all men pay for what they apparently did wrong got rejected by all the women he met, dated and or had relationships with, let himself get yelled at, walk out the room when my stepmother was angry at him, didn't even slam a door in anger even once, just let his head hang down, be submissive and take all the blame because I deserve it, now that's the example I had as a role model, screw that dude, he deserved better and so did I.

Well now, fortunately my mother had fallen in love with the complete opposite of my seed donor, a Harley riding, former professional soldier turned bus driver, with cash in the bank and who owned his own house, he was also 10 years younger then my mom ( she was a real hottie), this man has been a better role model then my biological father, this man could talk, he could listen, he didn't judge, accepted me as his own, taught me how to fix a car and fill out my tax forms, how to shave and how treat the ladies with respect, get my friggin @ss out of bet even when had a party the night before, work is work young sir lazy d!ckhead, rise and shine sonny boy, now you would expect that should have balanced out nicely don't you, but no, at time it didn't, I was very confused about my identity for a long time and from an early age on, where do my loyalties lie, father mother, stepfather/mother, all great people to be honest, could have been much much worse.

This confusion was the main reason I started to do dope, first stole the weed of my stepmom ( complaining social worker hippie)at age 14 and was stoned from then on, do want to know anything and don't want see anything, I am done for, f@ck it, f@ck it all, he (my father) knew, did not step up the plate, just hid behind his intellectual newspaper and a 7 meter long bookshelve and silence, deadly silence, even when I started selling dope he didn't say sh!t, I threw piles of cash on the coffeetable and equally high piles of weed/ speed and xtc later on, he dropped his newspaper two inches, looked a bit annoyed lifted up the newspaper and continued reading, what I wanted was some attention form this fellow MAN, a whack on the head and screaming to get the f@ck out of his house, nope, zilch, zero, zippo, nada, rien, nothing, that's it, no spine, no backbone, no interest, he didn't know how to handle his own kid looking for guidance.

I'm stuck in this story now, mst think how to continue this post if at all, but anyway, thanks to example of my stepdad I did pick up on a few things, that settled in much much later btw, but I can say I have seen both perspectives of being a man, I also have seen a man turn into a woman or at least what was his perspective of being an emancipated man, I say no thank you very much, not me, not like that.

Perhaps I'll find a better way to put this into words, perhaps not, hope you get my perspective on this subject now, I see men and women as equals not alike, but equals, the road could have been a bit less bumpy though, sigh, humans can be such weird silly dumbcunts.

Sorry for the blabber and gibberish, didn't see this discussion coming at all, interesting though.

O yeah, almost forgot, thanks mom, for screwing me up the way you did and the ways you didnt love you

[turiya]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
Carmen,

I think the first thing mothers have to do is stop getting their sons circumcised.

Sierra

It is absolutely VITAL that this disfigurement and twisting of the male mind and body, in it's very genesis and unfolding, in the creation of it's unconsciousness and instinctive aspect of emotion....that this abomination be stopped, immediately.


The damage is greater than cutting off the legs, or plucking out the eyes ----of a newborn.

And then, the next thing is for mothers to stop having a Cesarian Sections performed during childbirth... Talking about the damage done... this is also something to also consider...

Bartzis on the harm done by the medical system performing a Cesarian Section:

turiya

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[Christine]

Dear Nickolai,

I thought since you said you were perplexed as to why we are discussing this on the forum I would try to enumerate the reasons as I understand them. First I would say that the division of male/ female is one of the primary divisions on the planet. My remembering tells me that we, as Spirits, were not always so divided. In fact I believe there were times on this earth that conception wasn't a matter of sexual intercourse but a manifestation of Spiritual intercourse or communion. But lets leave that aside for another thread.

So as we are reaching for our (r)evolutionary keys we need to understand how this division of female/ male has affected us in the past and how it affects us still today. There is something very deep in this that alludes us still, in my opinion it merits our most discerning and penetrating attention.

Just look around you in our world. We are sexual, some of us wear the body of a man and some the body of a woman. This is undeniable and if we take even a cursory look it is obvious that this fact indeed has led to aberrant behavior in male and female alike. It is, I believe, imperative that we learn from each other and find an equality and balance, built on respect and comprehension.

The damage that has been done through abuse of sexual energy is immense and underlies just about every other degradation we have suffered.

We must remember, study, and analyze how this separation has affected us as Spiritual beings. And in this understanding reintegrate our two halves to a harmonious whole. It isn't enough to simply say we've come a long way, we certainly as a humanity haven't come far enough.

We need to see how far the pendulum has swung in both directions and remember this into the fabric our our beings so as to not have to repeat this pattern over and over again. To me this is the most important discussion for if we reveal to ourselves how and why this came about we will have unlocked one of the most guarded doors.

We should be able to keep the dynamic of energy exchange in perpetual movement within our own body. This is only possible when we are fully aware and integrated. While we continue to battle between the sexes this will not be possible.

So from your "silliest thing to discuss" I come from the other side of the pendulum swing to say "this one of the most important things" to discuss. And both of us agree that we are searching for the important answers to our evolution and movement to understanding what BEing one is and finding Peace that endures.

Christine

Posted by Nickolai (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
Nickolai, it seems that Russia has something to teach us. The hell with sexual differences.

(shut, whispering: but deep down, Nickolai, would you say that there is all kinds of misconceptions and préjudices on both sides, but stronger against women?)

Dearest Flashie...)))


Honestly, I do not think so. Not here at least. Not in my reality. Here we are equal (And again: In my reality!).
And honestly I care not what they talk about.
Here I know women who have made their way up just working with their bodies. When up there, they do their best to belittle men...))
Not a rule, but, oh, so very often.
BUt then again, Russia is different. We have made a huge way from 80's to now. Russian women could be different from others. Who knows...))

Still, I think it is a silliest thing to discuss. Especially keeping in mind what is being discussed on the forum: the human evolution, evolving, being as one, love, peace.
Where does it come from. Really, I am perplexed..

[Atlas]

Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)

Have to tell you... I just read a news article some minister in the Saudi government announced that driving cars damages a women's ovaries and reproductive organs...

Hmmm, you'd expect the same thing would happen to a mans prostate and nuts in that case eh, what an idiot, or maybe he carry's his a round in a small backpack to prevent sitting on it.

Reuters earlier wrongly identified him as Sheikh Saleh bin Mohammed al-Lohaidan, a member of the Senior Council of Scholars, one of the top religious bodies in the birthplace of Islam.

By contrast, Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Lohaidan, the person quoted in the sabq.org report, is a judicial adviser to an association of Gulf psychologists. His comments reflect the extent of opposition to women driving among some conservatives in Saudi Arabia.

“If a woman drives a car, not out of pure necessity, that could have negative physiological impacts as functional and physiological medical studies show that it automatically affects the ovaries and pushes the pelvis upwards,” he told Sabq.

Sheikh Abdulatif Al al-Sheikh, the head of the morality police, told Reuters a week ago that there was no text in the documents making up sharia, or Islamic law, that barred women from driving. - Source

[Mike Gorman]

Posted by minkton (here)
I'm puzzled in this thread by the idea that mothers need to stop getting their sons circumsised....circumcision was a woman's idea and is perpetrated by women , and it is entirely up to the mother, if her son is circumcised? I had no idea that men had been so excluded from the entire germination of the idea and that fathers had no voice in this ritual for their sons.

Has it always been entirely the mothers decision? Why? What is the rationale there?

Hi Minkton,
I am not sure if you are referring to a particular culture regarding the 'authority' to decide on male circumcision-or the Western world in general? For western societies Circumcision is normally a combined parental choice, both the Mother & Father discuss and decide. Personally I think it is tantamount to mutilation, there is no genuine benefit to the procedure, but the choice is there.

[araucaria]

Posted by CD7 (here)
Well actually no, none of this sounds familiar.

OK, let me tell you what sounds familiar to me in all of this.

Queens greedily devouring boys to mark lunar cycles sounds exactly like Arizona Wilder’s description to David Icke of goings-on at Windsor Castle. Matriarchy not dead? The deity in those days was the Triple Moon Goddess (in her triple aspect: waxing, full, waning moon). I’ll come back to this. Notice in passing how the importance of the number 13 comes from the lunar year of 13 months (364 days).

The change from sacrificing boys to animals is documented in the Old Testament in the story of Abraham substituting a ram for Isaac on instructions from Yahweh. Yahweh often gets a bad press, but this sounds like progress. And Christianity, which also often gets a bad press, offers what sounds like further progress with Jesus offering himself symbolically in the form of bread and wine. To criticize this as a late form of cannibalism is to look backwards in time. The forward-looking view sees it as an improvement, although we now need to apply this same process of purification to the notion of sacrifice itself.

In Greece, the sacrifice would have been a bull, or maybe the difference is of time rather than place: different ages (Taurus followed by Aries: the mythical Jesus in the new age of Pisces would sacrifice fish). Rams and bulls were supplementary to requirements: a typical flock or herd would consist of females and their young; adult males being needed only in small numbers (even less when their contribution to the reproductive cycle was not understood). Nowadays we have herds of bullocks by castrating the males. Alternatively we have countries where bulls are allowed to live: until they reach the bullring, that is. Bullfighting at least shows respect for the animal’s physical integrity.

There has been talk on this thread about circumcision. This may have been originally a form of symbolic castration. Possibly the rise of the male was accompanied by an increase in testosterone levels, which have reached such unacceptable proportions today that we read posts here calling for a cull of the alpha males. Back then, the phallus was the only weapon men had to get a foothold on life, and the cult of the obelisk continues to provide evidence that the macho society is very much living in the past.

13, Apollo, Moon, obelisk: Apollo 13, the triangle on top of the Saturn V obelisk, marked the failed meeting of the sun god and the moon goddess. On the symbolic level, this is the true story of the moon adventure, and understandably many people see the ‘successful’ missions as being necessarily a hoax.

The top god in the new patriarchy was Zeus, Jupiter in Latin, also called Jove. You see the link to Jehovah/Yahweh). Zeus and his thunderbolts was possibly a Velikovskian age of Jupiter, but in any case not a sun god, presumably because the next biggest deity in the night sky after the moon goddess. The sun god of daylight was Phoebus Apollo.

The modern God, Deus, is likely a conflation of Zeus and Apollo. He has still not resolved his differences with the divine feminine, or, to put it another way, got over the trauma of earlier times. He has inherited from the male priesthood serving the queenship vicariously, while dressed in feminine robes. The pope is the Vicar of Christ and I would suggest that his unreasonable refusal to accept women priests is only explicable if we see this role being played by male priestesses.

I have mentioned elsewhere how the Reformation was over the role of women, the Catholic cult of the Virgin Mary, against Puritanism and its outright rejection of the divine feminine. The Virgin Mary is itself a puritan version of the divine feminine, of which the Mary Magdalen angle would be the full-blown version. See below:

Posted by araucaria (here)
There is a little more to the Mary Magdalen story than this smear campaign. It involves the identifying of her too with a mythical figure, namely what Robert Graves calls the Triple Goddess or the White Goddess, and which the poet Ted Hughes applies to a sizeable chunk of Shakespeare in Shakespeare and the Goddess of Complete Being. This is a lengthy explanation whose thesis is that Shakespeare was using the theatre as a ploy to expose his Catholic views at a time when Puritanism was persecuting Catholics. Simplifying outrageously, the eternal feminine (the Goddess of Complete Being), he says, was the major battleground at this time, espoused by Catholicism and rejected by Puritanism. She comprises at once the mother figure, the pure bride and the whore (representing her sexuality), which are not separable without leading to tragedy. Several plays explore different failures to reconcile these aspects of woman. For example, Othello, who loves his loving wife, kills the whore; or Hamlet, whose hesitation is because killing the whore also means killing his mother, while facing this dilemma collapses his relationship with his chaste bride Ophelia, whom he packs off to a nunnery; you get the picture.

From this perspective, misogynistic Pauline Christianity corresponds to Puritanism and counterintuitively Catholicism would be its heretical offshoot – the main difference being the acknowledged importance of women, with the emphasis on Mary the mother, Mary Magdalen the bride and sexual partner. It is somewhat ironic that the Catholic Church is criticized today for manifestly not doing enough for women. And back in the Elizabethan era, at a time when people were getting hanged, drawn and quartered for this major difference of opinion, Shakespeare was a whistle-blower and spiritual guide of the first order, using the fiction of the theatre to speak some unsavory truths.

This myth is often to be found in modern fiction as well. In French, Mary Magdalen is Marie Madeleine. Thus in Proust’s In Search of Lost Time, she is a central mythical figure, not only for the famous madeleine cake and tea episode and its discreet connection with the narrator’s mother, but also the connection with his lover, alternating chasteness and promiscuity and stirring love and jealousy. This is also the theme of James Joyce’s Ulysses, whose hero, Leopold Bloom, copes rather better with the sometimes unfaithful goddess figure he is married to. And the theme can be traced through The Arabian Nights in which the wife is fighting for her life all the way back to The Odyssey, in which the man is fighting for his wife.

So there was a whole lot going on long before Dan Brown came on the scene to popularize the story. We need to see the power of myth not simply as a way of spreading disinformation about real individuals but also as the universal relevance given to universal issues. Learning the truth about Mary Magdalen can help remove the smears to the individual; it can also help us deal with this endless issue of male violence due to (over)possessiveness, incomprehension and ultimately fear of the fair sex.

[gripreaper]

At the very core, we are learning to generate our own energy, or we are vamping it from others. In the paradigm of scarcity, we are taught that we must exploit in order to survive, that we are lacking that which we need. All energy is sexual, and is defined in degrees of amplification. In relationship, we choose someone who can complete us and has the energy signature we lack. In corporations, we exploit others for the good of the company, which has no soul in itself and is set up to survive and thrive at all costs.

So, the context, the lens through which we perceive our reality has to change. The old paradigm of scarcity, where energy must be vamped outside of ourselves, must change into the new paradigm of abundance, where we generate that energy within and emanate it outward and manifest in wholeness.

The universal energy is absolutely abundant, and we can manifest from the void anything we can dream, provided we are inner directed and we learn how to generate, amplify, focus, and emanate our own energy into the void of all that is, and in turn, create the new paradigm full well knowing that we are creator beings.

How this will shift, will undoubtedly come from the release of the Tesla energy technology, when we realize that energy is abundant and comes straight from the earth and transmits wireless throughout all manifestation. Then, we will recognize the abundance and will lose the need to exploit others to feed our own lack.

As we allow this energy to amplify within, we will be forced to face all of our own demons, our shadow selves, and all the beliefs we have built up around our energetic blocks in order to function within the paradigm of scarcity. This will undoubtedly destroy everything you were ever taught, everything you ever believed to be true. This is known as "the dark night of the soul". You will go through it alone, and when you are done, there will be nothing left but you yourself, your very essence. All of the things you "think" you are will fall away.

It is so worth it, to tear it all down. When you do, your twin souls and your twin flame will return as you emerge into the new paradigm of abundance. Lets do this.

[onawah]

I was just reading an article recently by John Van Auken of A.R.E. here:
http://www.johnvanauken.com/atlantismu.htm
He is a big proponent of Edgar Cayce, of course, and most of his writing is based on Cayce's readings.
I don't think Cayce was infallible or that his readings were necessarily perfectly accurate or complete by any means.
But something in the article about the evolution of humanity from very ancient times (Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis ) and up to the present struck a chord; I have seen similar ideas expressed by other channelers, ie that humanity originally were higher dimensional, androgynous beings who became gradually entrapped in lower frequencies and more engrossed in matter.
That our increasing polarity resulted in, among other things, the division into male and female.
And that as we spiral back upwards again now after these thousands of years of experiencing and learning in the lower dimensions, we will be evolving into something entirely new.

Here are some excerpts from the article:

In those times the goal was to raise the consciousnesses, desires, and energies of the sons of man upward to the higher awarenesses, purposes, and energies of the sons of God, and eventually back into the Oneness of the formless realms of life and the cosmos. It didn't happen. The higher vibes and awarenesses of the sons of God began to descend further into physical matter and sensual experience.

3rd. Atlantis: Eden of the World, Male & Female, and the Five Races
About 210,000 B.C., many souls began a fresh incarnation in legendary Atlantis, a continent in the Atlantic Ocean. Mu was now many islands scattered throughout the Pacific Ocean, and though some temples were still providing help, the age of Mu was ebbing. It had gone on for an amazingly long time, nearly 12 million years, but by 50,700 B.C., it would be only a legend, a myth. Atlantis was the new hot spot for dynamic life, transformation, and new hope. The incarnations in Atlantis would be purely second root-race bodies; no mixed animal forms. The Children of One and the Children of Darkness both began to use these bodies. These bodies were androgynous, hermaphroditic, having both sexes in one; as do many plants, some animals, and the mythological Hermaphroditus, the bisexual child of Hermes and Aphrodite. Therefore, godlings, good and bad, could conceive new bodies within themselves, attracting fellow souls to inhabit them, often from their soul group. Even though these bodies were androgynous, souls tended to accentuated one sexual aspect, and feminine was the predominant aspect during the early periods in Earth. It was an age of feminine rule. All the major leaders were predominantly feminine in their expression. Although Ouowu, Io, and Lala-mu were predominantly feminine, they had male energies as well. Because of this they could conceive within themselves; no coupling with another body was required. To build their communities, they would often conceive new bodies, gestate them in the wombs of their minds, and then bring them forth into the form world to be inhabited by souls coming out of the unseen realms of formless life. But Atlantis would be a new era, one in which many amazing changes would bring about better conditions for all; at least that was the intention. Sexual unity may appear to be a good thing, but this world was a lonely place for souls in separate, individual bodies. The oneness and community that was always present in the boundless dimensions of mind and spirit were difficult to experience in the world. Each mind was isolated in a separate body. But that was about to change.

According to the Akasha, Eden, that garden with God, first occurred around 106,000 B.C. in a paradisiacal portion of Atlantis called Poseidia (possibly identified with Poseidon, the Greek mythological god of the sea; the Romans called this god Neptune).
According to the Akasha, it wasn't until about 12,000 B.C. that the Eden spoken of in the Bible was created, between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers with Adam, Eve, and the troublesome serpent. The Eden of Atlantis was as important as the Bible's. In this first Eden the Logos of God incarnated among the Children of God to help all the godlings find their way out of matter and selfishness. The Logos is the essential mind or consciousness of God individualized in order to be among individualized beings. The disciple John in the first verses of his Gospel refers to the Logos as "The Word" that became flesh and dwelt among us. This was a momentous entry into matter, into the world of form. The infinite was now among the finite, the universal among the individualized. The One had come among the Many in a form that they could relate to and learn from.

Upon entering this world the Logos quickly determined that it would be helpful if the two sexual aspects were separated into two unique forms or bodies, not just for companionship but to be helpmeets to one another (see Genesis 2:18). This world required a different arrangement of being in order to overcome the sense of loneliness and separateness. In many ways this separate feeling contributed to the selfishness and lack of cooperation with or attunement to the oneness. The Logos, God incarnate, divided its hermaphroditic self into the legendary Lilith, the first individually manifested female, and Amilius, the first male. These two were the first Eve and Adam. They were twins of the same being, halves of one mind, one spirit. According to Cayce's reading of the Akasha, it took eighty-six years to accomplish the separated projection of the complementary male-female aspects of soul into separate body types. Once this was accomplished, the complementary qualities could come together in a union that reflected the oneness in the heavenly dimensions, and the two would feel comforted and united. Oneness of the two was the emotional, mental experience that was hoped for. And it worked well for a while.

These new bodies were the third creation, the third root race for the godlings. Once the Logos had shown the way, most souls repeated the process, separating their male and female qualities, and manifesting them individually. Word of this spread around the world. In these ancient times the world still spoke one common language, so communication was easy and fast. The news that God's Logos had come among the people of Poseidia and created a new body type drew visitors from around the world. Some came driven by skepticism, some by wonder and hopefulness, some to challenge and confront, and some because it was their last hope. Poseidia was the center of the world. Even Lala-mu came from the far side of the planet to experience in the physical what she had in the mind and spirit.

Now union could occur between males and females, creating love, companionship, families, and home. The concept of home was one of the most fascinating to incarnate godlings. Prior to this, people lived in groups and community structures. The idea of sharing a special place with your companion and any offspring from that union was new. It quickly became apparent how comforting this arrangement was to incarnate souls. Sexually matched partners also fit with Nature's arrangement of this world. A sense of balance now existed. The godlings became harmonious with Nature's ways. It is repulsive today to accept that these early couples were halves of themselves, or incestuous brothers and sisters. At that ancient time genetics was not an issue among the Children of the One because their bodies were not yet completely physical structures like today, subject to genetic mixing and the strengths and weaknesses that we've come to understand. They were coupling with their spirits, minds, and hearts in oneness with God, the Oneness, not copulating with their physical bodies (except for the Children of Darkness which had been copulating using animal forms and later humanoid forms). Our mythologies reveal this situation, containing numerous stories of brothers and sisters married to one another. For example, in Egyptian mythology the great god Osiris is married to the great goddess Isis, who is also his sister, or in truth, the feminine half of his whole soul. The god Ra (pronounced ray) is married to his feminine half Rat (pronounced ray-t). The god Thoth (pronounced tote or tothe with a long "o") or, as the Greek's called him, Hermes, is married to his feminine half Maat (pronounced mate). It was the way of things in these early times. Later, as genetic forces became more important and more lessons needed to be learned, it became evident that marriages would gain by uniting with other than one's other half (in the ancient sense of "other half").

The fourth creation was the one we have been living with for much of human history as we know it today. The bodies we use today are fourth-age bodies, adamic bodies, homo-sapien bodies. But, as the Mayan's prophetic calendar indicates, we are about to go through another change on December 23, 2012. The fifth age, the age of "movement," began with Noah, but the fifth body type begins to form in the first decades of the 2000s.

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Posted by transiten (here)
Thankyou araucaria, was actually going to post about early matriarchal societies and the sacrifice of the King, interesting perspective to say the least...

Woman having this power surely related to the fact that life was obviously created out of her body and they didn't see the connection with intercourse.

As they understood the necessity of this, funny thing is that Plato and others tried to figure out how men would manage to give birth without women! They also came up with the idea that the sperm was the "child" that was placed in the empty womb of the woman

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Reuters earlier wrongly identified him as Sheikh Saleh bin Mohammed al-Lohaidan, a member of the Senior Council of Scholars, one of the top religious bodies in the birthplace of Islam.

By contrast, Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Lohaidan, the person quoted in the sabq.org report, is a judicial adviser to an association of Gulf psychologists. His comments reflect the extent of opposition to women driving among some conservatives in Saudi Arabia.

“If a woman drives a car, not out of pure necessity, that could have negative physiological impacts as functional and physiological medical studies show that it automatically affects the ovaries and pushes the pelvis upwards,” he told Sabq.

Ah, that's even worse, so basically this was not addressed to women but to men, if you let your wife drive, say bye bye to your future offspring and thereby your manhood in our community, how very very nice of this very scared not so fine specimen of a psychologist, you'd think he's pissed of at his mom for some reason and maybe all women for that matter?

I am so happy he.... as a male specimen who carries most of his junk outside of his body, can velcro it off and hang it from the rear view mirror when driving, out of pure necessity of course, it will show all other men he is a responsible driver, thinking of his future kids futures, I respect that.

How would he feel about women and sitting down in general, in the passenger seat for instance, how about taking the bus, subway, bicycle?

[Atlas]

Posted by Tara Umm Omar on April 26, 2011:

Capt. Hanada Hindi, the first Saudi female pilot. Masha’Allah this is an accomplishment! Now if only Capt. Hindi could drive herself to her job.

Using a loophole in Saudi Arabia’s ban on women driving cars, a Saudi woman drives a dune buggie (aka an ATV) in the desert, Saudi Arabia

Source: wordpress.com/women-driving-in-saudi-arabia-my-personal-thoughts

[learninglight]

Just want to say here i have had 3 Cesarian Sections; 3 healthy children and i recovered quite quickly after each

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
Carmen,

I think the first thing mothers have to do is stop getting their sons circumcised.

Sierra

It is absolutely VITAL that this disfigurement and twisting of the male mind and body, in it's very genesis and unfolding, in the creation of it's unconsciousness and instinctive aspect of emotion....that this abomination be stopped, immediately.


The damage is greater than cutting off the legs, or plucking out the eyes ----of a newborn.

And then, the next thing is for mothers to stop having a Cesarian Sections performed during childbirth... Talking about the damage done... this is also something to also consider...

Bartzis on the harm done by the medical system performing a Cesarian Section:

turiya

sharon

[kenaz]

Let's not forget breastfeeding. The safety of your mother's arms.
The close connection between comfort and nourishment for both
mother and child or a propped up bottle in the car seat.

[araucaria]

Posted by learninglight (here)
Just want to say here i have had 3 Cesarian Sections; 3 healthy children and i recovered quite quickly after each

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
Carmen,

I think the first thing mothers have to do is stop getting their sons circumcised.

Sierra

It is absolutely VITAL that this disfigurement and twisting of the male mind and body, in it's very genesis and unfolding, in the creation of it's unconsciousness and instinctive aspect of emotion....that this abomination be stopped, immediately.


The damage is greater than cutting off the legs, or plucking out the eyes ----of a newborn.

And then, the next thing is for mothers to stop having a Cesarian Sections performed during childbirth... Talking about the damage done... this is also something to also consider...

Bartzis on the harm done by the medical system performing a Cesarian Section:

turiya

sharon

my children were both scheduled c-sections: head size vs pelvic size, no other way. Childbirth is still the biggest cause of mortality among young females.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health...h_century.html

The births were peaceful, painless, happy occasions. My wife was conscious, I was present, and the children were perfectly fine.

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Posted by kenaz (here)
Let's not forget breastfeeding. The safety of your mother's arms.
The close connection between comfort and nourishment for both
mother and child or a propped up bottle in the car seat.

As me and my female comusiscian were touring her husband fed the baby in his loving arms with the milk that she had pumped out with a breast pump and the milk stored in the fridge. Made a great kid!

[turiya]

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Posted by learninglight (here)
Just want to say here i have had 3 Cesarian Sections; 3 healthy children and i recovered quite quickly after each

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Posted by Sierra (here)
Carmen,

I think the first thing mothers have to do is stop getting their sons circumcised.

Sierra

It is absolutely VITAL that this disfigurement and twisting of the male mind and body, in it's very genesis and unfolding, in the creation of it's unconsciousness and instinctive aspect of emotion....that this abomination be stopped, immediately.


The damage is greater than cutting off the legs, or plucking out the eyes ----of a newborn.

And then, the next thing is for mothers to stop having a Cesarian Sections performed during childbirth... Talking about the damage done... this is also something to also consider...

Bartzis on the harm done by the medical system performing a Cesarian Section:

turiya

sharon

my children were both scheduled c-sections: head size vs pelvic size, no other way. Childbirth is still the biggest cause of mortality among young females.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health...h_century.html

The births were peaceful, painless, happy occasions. My wife was conscious, I was present, and the children were perfectly fine.

"What’s done to children, they will do to society." -- Karl Menninger

"If we are to heal the earth, we must begin by healing birth." -- Agnes Sallet Von Tannenberg

“If one went to the extreme of giving the patient the full details of mortality and morbidity related to cesarean section, most of them would get up and go out and have their baby under a tree…” -- Dr. Dermot W. McDonald, Neel J. Medicolegal pressure, MDs’ lack of patience cited in cesarean‘epidemic.’ Ob.Gyn. News Vol 22 No 10

"The only significant effect of continuous electronic foetal monitoring was an increase in the caesarean rate." -- Odent, M. 1996. Kitting needles, cameras and electronic fetal monitor. MIDIRS Midwifery Digest. 6(3).

"If a doula were a drug, it would be unethical not to use it." -- Dr. John H. Kennell

"Last time I was a private patient, this time I will have privacy and patience." -- Australian mother planning a homebirth

"Just as a woman’s heart knows how and when to pump, her lungs to inhale, and her hand to pull back from fire, so she knows when and how to give birth." -- Virginia Di Orio

"There is no way out of the experience except through it, because it is not really your experience at all but the baby’s. Your body is the child’s instrument of birth." -- Penelope Leach

"We’ve put birth in the same category as illness and disease and it’s never belonged there." -- Carla Hartley, founder of Trust Birth and the Ancient Art Midwifery Institute

"Offer hugs, not drugs." -- Adina Lebowitz

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KFBf_alErog

turiya

[Atlas]

Posted by turiya (here)

What’s done to children, they will do to society. -- Karl Menninger

This is very true.

[grannyfranny100]

I guess I am running late on the circumcision issue but here's another twist. If it ain't broke, why fix it! Circumcision has got to be a painful procedure and sounds like a barbaric ritual but I have heard it is a sanitation issue: harder to keep the penis clean without the procedure. True or untrue, I don't know.

To add to the sanitation issue, I have read studies that a higher percentage of males than women do not wash their hands before leaving the restroom. The male in my life makes sure he washes his hands. Then, to avoid infecting his hands with other guys' penis germs on the door knob, he opens the rest room door with a paper towel to prevent contamination.

Sure makes a romantic dinner more inspiring than wondering if the guy washed his hands before he passed you the salt and pepper shakers. Ugh!