Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Roisin]

How convenient, right? All I can say is thank G-d for the internet because back in the days when we had to wait for the next tv news broadcast or paper to come out on each new development, we would already be several steps behind them with little chance to catch-up... whereas now we are right on their heels!

This allows us a much more clearer perspective on what's really going on...

[SilentFeathers]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FdbmISGIVVo

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

[Roisin]

.......... Why?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Roisin (here)
.......... Why?

It's probably just military reports and things like that.....and perhaps evidence proving "incompetence"!

The multi-billion dollar business called Malaysian Airlines has been in the red for several years, now they're really in need of a bailout, buyout, merger....

It'll be interesting to see who steps in to save this airline company. Regardless, INMARSAT basically gave the Malaysian Gov/Intelligence a break to some degree, the Malaysians can now blame them for the direction the narrative went.

ADDED:

[Gardener]

I don't know if this has been posted, yesterday Kerry did an interview with 'abel danger' www.abeldanger.net
The conversation doesn't start until the 30 min mark ish, I am listening now it has interesting information about the non interuptable auto pilot function. I do not know the validity of these people but their credentials seem very feasable.
http://www.livestream.com/projectcam...6-b5dda846acd7

[SilentFeathers]

Hey folk's! a "new credible lead"!!!!!! LOL!

Search area for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 moved almost 700 miles after "credible new lead"

[Ahnung-quay]

The Abel Danger people are pretty credible. If you haven't checked out the link above, you may find some tidbits that you didn't already know.

[Atlas]

This one way trip to Antarctica is the first red flag that made me think that there is probably a coverup. Even a kamikaze on a suicide mission has absolutely no reason to head that way. Why south ?

[panopticon]

Last media release from AMSA for the night.

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Media Release
28th March, 2014: 11:15 PM (AEDT)

Search operation for Malaysia Airlines aircraft: Update 25

Five aircraft spotted multiple objects of various colours during Friday’s search for the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

Search activities have now concluded. A total of 256,000 square kilometres was searched.

Photographic imagery of the objects was captured and will be assessed overnight.

The objects cannot be verified or discounted as being from MH370 until they are relocated and recovered by ships.

A Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion reported sighting a number of objects white or light in colour and a fishing buoy.

A Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion relocated the objects detected by the RNZAF Orion and reported it had seen two blue/grey rectangular objects floating in the ocean.

A second RAAF P3 Orion spotted various objects of various colours in a separate part of the search area about 546 kilometres away.

A total of ten planes were tasked by AMSA in today’s search and all have now departed the search area.

AMSA has tasked Chinese Maritime Administration patrol ship, Haixun 01, which is in the search area and will be in a position to relocate the objects on Saturday.

Friday’s search area was shifted north after international air crash investigators in Malaysia provided the latest credible lead available to AMSA.

This was on the advice of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB).

Weather conditions in the area are expected to be reasonable for searching on Saturday.

Source

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by buares (here)
This one way trip to Antarctica is the first red flag that made me think that there is probably a coverup. Even a kamikaze on a suicide mission has absolutely no reason to head that way. Why south ?

There's plenty of reasons to make a mad dash for Antarctica!

[panopticon]

What is the one thing we have definitely learnt from this?

That one of the most remote parts of the Southern Ocean is literally full of rubbish...

Why is there nothing in the news reports about that?

-- Pan

[Atlas]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
There's plenty of reasons to make a mad dash for Antarctica!

The only way South is Indonesia or Australia, there's nothing else down there. Unless there is a motive we haven't been told about, the South route makes no sense to me.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
There's plenty of reasons to make a mad dash for Antarctica!

The only way South is Indonesia or Australia, there's nothing else down there. Unless there is a motive we haven't been told about, the South route makes no sense to me.

It's about the most impossible place on Earth to retrieve a downed jet or to find a sunken ship.....good location to "disappear" something and or "get rid of" evidence...

[Atlas]

I did not agree with Gen.McInerey about MH370 until now (and still don't) but here is what he says:

Why Did MH370 Pilot Go South? It Just Doesn’t Make Any Sense

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nLXQ5hinnAM

[panopticon]

WTF, did that bloke just say what I heard him say?

I want to aire on the national security side. If there was a potential that it could hit US forces, or the United States or Israeli's...

So, the fact that the story is that the jet was off the shore of Australia, a US ally, means nothing. However if it had managed to fly to Israel then he'd have been concerned? And Sepo's wonder why Aussies look funny at 'em sometimes...

-- Pan

[araucaria]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
If this assertion about the cloned plane is true, what this is very likely to mean is that the Israelis plan to do something with the identical plane (like crash it into Tel Aviv, 9-11 style) -- and frame the Iranians. They can then attack Iran, with the world behind them.

Here's the rub: FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, it would have to be formally announced that the Southern Ocean debris is NOT the missing plane after all. That leaves the coast clear for the Israelis to roll out their false flag and set up the Iranians as successful hijackers.

So: watch carefully. If the ocean debris is "finally confirmed" (whether correctly or not) as belonging to the missing plane, then this scenario cannot be viable.

But if it IS announced officially (presumably in the next few days, because the search teams are good men and women working extremely hard!) that the debris is NOT the missing plane after all, and therefore there's a back-to-the-drawing-board situation of where-the-hell-IS-it -- then this information may need to be spread far and wide in order to prevent war.

An alternative scenario would be for the plane in Tel Aviv to be taken to pieces for scattering in some remote ocean spot for (mis)identification as wreckage, and then for the hijacked plane to reappear at some stage. Just a thought - I'm not sure this would change anything.

[SilentFeathers]

All I can say at this point is a hell of a lot of mistakes are being made, not just with this event, but with several others too. Turkey may have been aware of "an operation" that would start a radical movement in the Middle East, then heard through the grapevine the operation was aborted, thus why they got reckless and eager to pull a false flag, and getting sloppy and caught in the process.

Too much is going on right now and getting rather quite sloppy in my opinion, thus giving me some concern what plan C may be......they've obviously IMO screwed up Plan A and possibly plan B.....

[superconsciousness]

MH370 stays missing for want of data-sharing among intelligence searchers

DEBKAfile Special Report March 28, 2014, 7:50 PM (IST)

http://debka.com/article/23806/MH370...ence-searchers

All of a sudden Friday, March 28, the search for the Malaysian airliner still missing after three weeks, switched to a new site, 1,120 kilometers north of a part of the Indian Ocean where the day before 300 objects were hailed as “the most credible items yet.” The explanation for this sudden shift to a new area was that the Boeing 777 was traveling faster than previously estimated, had used up more fuel and had therefore flown a shorter distance into the Indian Ocean. The new information based on the analysis of radar data placed the new “credible search area” between the South China Sea and the Strait of Malacca.

So what about the “credible items” found earlier? All the various experts including radar specialists would say was that the new area was more convenient for the search. They regretted the waste of time and resources expended in shifts every few days from place to place.

After the plane went missing on March 8, satellites, planes and ships focused first on the Bay of Thailand, and then the Andaman Sea near India, before looping round to Central Asia and settling briefly on Kazakhstan. They then hared off to a broad patch of Indian Ocean between Australia and Antarctica.

Now they have moved north to a new search area of approximately 319,000 sq. km. which Australia’s investigation agency determines is “the most credible lead to where debris may be located.”

What keeps on driving the search in so many directions?
1. The searchers are groping in the dark. They have still not turned up a single piece of information or material evidence as leads to the location of the Malaysian flight or the cause of its disappearance. Their only guides are speculation about which way the currents in any presumed crash site may have caused the wreckage to drift.
2. Last week, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, in an attempt to bring this tragic episode to some conclusion, cited data provided by the British Inmarsat’s new technology as evidence that the plane had ended its flight in the Indian Ocean and all 239 aboard were lost.

Radar experts explained that Immarsat picked up “pings” from debris sighted up to 2,000 miles in the sea distant from Perth after 17 days in the water.
Five days after this dramatic discovery, the searchers and the Malaysian authorities appear to have forgotten all about it and are chasing a new theory, that the plane traveled faster and its route was shorter than first estimated.
3. The governments involved in the search, the US, China, India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, are using their resources not just to locate the missing Boeing, but for purposes of their own: a) Trials of their innovative intelligence and military technology; b) Checking out the satellite and electronic cyber resources of fellow-agencies engaged in the hunt and c) Discovering the outer limits of their colleagues’ intelligence capabilities and range in one of the most forbidding places on earth.

The lessons these powers are drawing from their own and their rivals’ performance are providing them with a study text on their comparative strengths and weaknesses in the event of potential sea, air or cyber conflicts.
It is worth noting in this regard that neither Russia nor France has volunteered to help Malaysia in the search. France’s contribution would be especially valuable in the light of its experience in the search for the Air France flight which crashed in the Atlantic in 2009 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. Neither was prepared to expose its satellite and intelligence resources to the competition.

The fourth week is likely to focus on scouring the sea bed for the black box of MH370. But if nothing substantial crops up yet again, the disappearance of the Malaysian airliner will have to go down as one of the unsolved mysteries of modern aviation.

The only chance of cracking it lies in all the governments taking part in the search setting aside their rivalries, pushing their experts and agents into one room and ordering them to come clean and piece together all the data they have collected. Perhaps then a true picture will finally emerge. But that is not about to happen.

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This will drag out until the infamous 'one month to retrieve the black box' passes without anything concrete, then they'll just give up, stating that "it's somewhere in the Indian Ocean...thanks for watching!"

[syrwong]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

The Malaysian government is feeling very sorry for not being able to tell the families what they know. A statement like this is already quite courageous for an unwilling participant in this grand conspiracy.

[Hervé]

Incompetence? or someone playing with a new toy?


Indian air force Hercules plane crashes during training mission killing all five crew members in central India

• Cargo plane was one of six bought from Lockheed-Martin three years ago
• India's air force chief dismisses suggestion crash was due to pilot error
• The country is the world's biggest arms importer
  

By Damien Gayle
PUBLISHED: 18:20 GMT, 28 March 2014 | UPDATED: 18:20 GMT, 28 March 2014

Five Indian airmen died today when their Hercules cargo plane fell out of the sky during a training mission in the heart of the south Asian country.

The C-130J Hercules plane plummeted to the ground near a village in Madhya Pradesh state, 72 miles west of Gwalior air base, sparking an emergency rescue mission.

But when air force personnel, police and firefighters reached the scene they found that all those on board had perished in the crash.

Tragic: Indian villagers crowd around the debris of an Indian air force cargo plane that crashed while on a training mission near the village of Karauli in the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh today

It is the latest in a series of accidents that have hit the Indian military, which has embarked on a modernisation programme that has made the country the world's biggest arms importer.

The plane that crashed was one of six C-130J aircraft that India bought from U.S. arms company Lockheed-Martin at a cost of £1.1billion three years ago.

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha told the Associated Press that the plane had been used in tough situations since then, including rescuing people from floods in the Himalayan foothills and landing in harsh terrain on the border with China.

India also sent two C-130J planes to participate in the search for a Malaysia Airlines plane lost in the southern Indian Ocean. It was not immediately clear if the plane that crashed had been involved in the search.

Marshal Raha, who is head of India's air force, dismissed the possibility that the crash might have been the result of a mistake by a pilot. 'Needless to say, the best pilots have been chosen to fly these aircraft,' he said.

Sameer Patil, a security expert with the Indian Council on Global Relations, a Mumbai-based think tank, said the crash would be a major setback for the Indian air force.

'After years of delay, the fleet is undergoing expansion in critical airlift capabilities. Hence, a loss such as this is particularly worrisome,' said Patil.

India has become the world's biggest arms importer as it pushes to modernize its military and replace its obsolete Soviet-era weapons.

The purchases were also spurred by crashes of almost 55 per cent of its frontline MiG fleet acquired from the former Soviet Union.

'The best pilots have been chosen to fly these aircraft': Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, head of India's air force, dismissed the possibility that the crash might have been the result of a mistake by a pilot.

The Hercules crash today comes after navy chief Admiral D.K. Joshi resigned last month to take responsibility for a string of accidents at sea.

Days later, a gas leak on a destroyer being built at a Mumbai dockyard killed a navy commander and sickened two workers.

Last August, another Russian-made diesel-powered submarine caught fire after an explosion and sank at port in Mumbai, killing all 18 sailors on board.

In December, the INS Talwar, a Russian-built stealth frigate, slammed into a trawler off India's west coast, sinking the boat and tossing 27 fishermen into the sea. All of the fishermen were rescued.

Another navy frigate ran aground near the Mumbai naval base in January, damaging some equipment. And the INS Airavat, an amphibious warfare vessel, ran aground earlier last month.

With national elections starting in less than two weeks, opponents were quick to attack the government for the accidents, saying it had to investigate if there was any negligence involved.

'This is absolutely a shocking incident,' said Prakash Javadekar, spokesman of the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party.

'The Hercules is such a sturdy aircraft it doesn't meet with such kind of accidents. The government needs to own responsibility for this state of affairs,' he told reporters.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Well, beside a kitchen sink to throw in as well, me think somebody got their hands on a new toy that could turn that plane into a stealth drone. The kind of technology Henry Deacon/Arthur Neuman was working at putting together for 9-11.

But, this time without most anybody being in on it which would imply the faking + jamming + shutting off of signals from a specific target. Now, who could do that? And, at the same, time making a number of nations' military and civilian organizations look like fools and losing face.... on top of the emotional shock generated by the loss of passengers and crew.