Meditation, and any work with Chi or Prana may invite possession by Jinn

[Shezbeth]

Posted by Dawn (here)
Shezbeth, will you please tell me more? What ideas have you 'entertained during entity interaction'?

Can you also tell me more about the information you are referring to here, "Most of what results from such interaction is information/ideation that is incomprehensible or undesirable to most without a previously comprehended metaphorical or figurative reference"?

I should qualify that when I refer to 'what results being incomprehensible/undesirable', I mean in close, physical/social conversation; Avalon members 'get it' and/or 'want to' quite readily. It was not my intention to imply that the ideas were 'too lofty' or 'beyond anyone's comprehension', nor that the ideas were unheard of especially here. ^_^

All manner of topics and ideas. Social perception/mind influence/control on a variety of levels (physical, mental, frequency/wave, etc.), the theory and mechanics of/behind various phenomena - quantum, metaphysic, etc., the comparable and/or contrasting nature of unity/singularity vs. duality/infinity, or just about any topic that requires lengthy explanation or research and an open mind to converse about. It is safe to assume that I discuss things with inorganics as readily/frequently as I do members of Avalon.

Lacking the need to explain terminology or concepts has led me to discuss more with inorganic entities than with present, physical ones, though 'discuss' may be a bit of a stretch. It would be more accurate to state that I monologue internally while processing information and at times am directed to oversight, fallacy, bias, or premature conclusion. Such interactions are thought-based rather than word-based so there is no conflict of perception as to the meanings of words or ideas, and metaphorical comparisons come quite quickly and naturally that could take hours to express verbally.

In that most threads I participate in on Avalon (for example) are subjects that the overwhelming majority (in my local community) would dismiss, discard, or ignore, I cannot ask for input from those around me (with one notable exception). Additionally, many people I've encountered use words inaccurately, or in the wrong context (but with all the confidence of correct meaning/usage).

For example, if I were to begin to discuss the Greek perception/concept of Daemon (which I might add could be relevant to this discussion ^_~), I would immediately be branded (and dismissed) as some type of satan-worshipper (which has happened) by the overwhelmingly Judeo-Christian conditioning which is most prevalent in my area. I could refer to Love (as the antithesis of Fear) and it would be interpreted as the commercial, valentine's day variety.

The Agent Smith syndrome DNA references is a most apt description. I find I am not readily targeted (in this sense) unless I attempt to express 'otherworldly' things to individuals not want to discuss/receive 'otherworldly' input. It is almost like a body/security guard steps between myself and the person 'for their protection', except the 'bodyguard' is within the person.

It is as though an individual's mental blocks/stonewalls have a consciousness of their own, which activate/mobilize when threatened.

Posted by DNA (here)
... if they are going to attach to you, they "ASK YOUR PERMISSION". It is just like the vampire who asks permission before he can enter your home.

The entity(-ies) I interact with did not do so. When contact was first made, we walked/talked together at length and at the conclusion the entity made to depart (in a sense). I suggested that a lasting connection could be made and made the invitation unsolicited.

[Dawn]

Shezbeth: It is as though an individual's mental blocks/stonewalls have a consciousness of their own, which activate/mobilize when threatened.

I have looked at this a LOT in my current lifetime! I am now accepting the possibility that I may have been wrong in my understanding... and this post is REALLY going to rankle some of the 'spiritual types' here on Avalon.

After my (literal) death, then having my memory forcibly erased before being installed in my body in 1978 most of my mental constructs were seen as completely false. For 7 years I worked all day, roamed the woods nearly all night, and never talked to a soul about what I understood and how I saw this false reality. My mind was utterly and totally silent with no stray inner voices or thoughts at all. When I was among people I felt isolated and completely alone. When I was in the woods I was in communion with everything and everyone there... who were all one and also gloriously separate.

The following 5 years were spent with the Open Gate Sangha, and with Adyshanti. During the OGS years I learned a lot about eastern philosophy and about using words that approximated what my knowing was. I began to share my experiences and understandings in that group... in return I picked up a number of 'mental fleas' (for want of a better term). I began to hear annoying inner voices again. They did not say nice things for the most part. They tried to direct me to do various things, and they bitched about everything all the time. So, the question is, with my unique perspective perhaps we all can look through my eyes at the elephant and see something we normally don't.

What if NONE of the thoughts tugging at me were mine? Well, I know eastern religions SAY this, but all of the people I know in the Western world added an adjunct to this, which is how the mud really gets sticky. The adjunct goes like this. "None of these thoughts are yours and YOU must free yourself from them through this and that discipline and through your intention and attention to the 'right' things and 'right' thoughts."

Voilla... now we are not only suffering from what appear to be parasitic thought forms (seemingly separation and hate based at their core), but we are also ASHAMED of this situation! For Pete's sake! Now we have made a tangle indeed, and freeing ourselves has become impossible. Shame is used a lot in the Western cultures and thoroughly imbedded in all of our children before they are even 6 years old.

Here is a truth I see at this level. What you see that other people put out in front of themselves, are actually parasites.... which in the Eastern Traditions is called the EGO.

And the worst thing we can do is think that this is US or that we are responsible as individuals. This is why the Bodhisattva Vow, Lightworker Trap, and Christed Being mental traps are so terrible. You and I cannot become free as long as so many others are busy making and distributing angry parasitic thought forms.... maybe.... at least this looks like a strong possibility.

What people and religious types usually say is that these thoughts are OURS that we made and they are coming back home to us because we are responsible for creating them. I do not think this is actually true in many/most cases among the awakened humans. I actually think we are drowning in a soup made by 'others' around us. By taking any of the vows we are stuck in a continuous cleanup operation. That's what I did day and night for 21 years before I saw it was an impossible task. I finally realized this... OMG! THEY DO NOT WANT LIBERATION AND/OR ENLIGHTENMENT AND THEY ARE NOT COMING WITH ME.... to try and drag them along is not love.

[Catsquotl]

Thank you Dawn,

That makes a lot of sense that does.

With Love
Eelco

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
Voilla... now we are not only suffering from what appear to be parasitic thought forms (seemingly separation and hate based at their core), but we are also ASHAMED of this situation! For Pete's sake! Now we have made a tangle indeed, and freeing ourselves has become impossible. Shame is used a lot in the Western cultures and thoroughly imbedded in all of our children before they are even 6 years old.

Here is a truth I see at this level. What you see that other people put out in front of themselves, are actually parasites.... which in the Eastern Traditions is called the EGO.

And here is the heart of the conversation really.
People think a Djinn possession is so unbelievable, but not a few folks state this is already the case. Some folks say we are already possessed by the Djinn.
Michael Harner's Ayhuasca journeys have told him these beings are dragon like whales.
Carlos Castaneda states that these beings are more electrical energetically than we are, but that they are inorganic beings called "fliers".
Not a few people including John Lash have stated these "fliers" are the archons talked about in the Gnostic texts.
And there have been quite a few correlations made in the way of connecting "fliers"/"archons" to the "Djinn" talked about in middle eastern lore.

The truth may just be we do not need to fret over a "Djinn" possession, for it has already taken place, and is the norm rather than the exception.

I have a thread where we discussed this here. Skyfish of nasa tether incident don juan's mudshadows?

[DNA]

Here is a story about a vampire encounter from a pretty cool dude named Jonathan Zap.

Story can be found at Jonathan Zap's Website here. He has other stories like this by the way.
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I’m going to put in as much detail as I can recall of this strange encounter, excluding any details that might reveal the vampire’s identity. Each time I’ve reflected on the experience, I see new connections in some of the details and I want to give the reader a chance to make their own connections, to connect the dots themselves.

I first met my young friend Nicholas—a pseudonym, and yes, I still consider him a friend—when he was seventeen or eighteen years old while I was doing I Ching readings for people in a public place. The encounter related here would have occurred two years later, and Nicholas would have been nineteen or twenty.

In retrospect, Nicholas looks remarkably like an Ann Rice vampire. He was exceptionally good-looking in an androgynous way and everyone commented on this. More than anyone I’ve ever met in person, Nicholas looked like a living Japanimation or anime character. He had enormous eyes, very high cheekbones, straight hair—dyed various colors—and a very small nose and mouth. A serious martial arts student, he trained constantly, and was thin with very high muscle definition. His metabolism was so high that he ate enough for four people but had a body fat below 5%. This was a big problem for him because he had been abandoned by both parents, was always broke, and whatever money he did have had to go to the huge quantities of food he had to eat.

Also, much like an Ann Rice vampire, Nicholas was keenly intelligent and with an impressive array of talents. He had educated himself in a surprising number of areas for someone so young, and was well informed about the occult, Eastern philosophy, and psychology. And although he apparently came out of a horrible trailer-trash background, he was mannered, eloquent in speech, graceful in movement, and exotic in appearance. Some people instinctively mistrusted him, but to me he was unfailingly honest, thoughtful, and considerate. Of course, I have no doubt that he presented me with his very best side because he valued me as a mentor. Still, I want to acknowledge that his conduct toward me was exemplary, and he was, strange as it sounds, a completely innocent participant—as far as I've been able to tell—in the vampiric attack I experienced. This will become clearer later in the narrative.

On the evening of the encounter, I hadn’t spent time with Nicholas for at least a year, with the exception of once bumping into him and his girlfriend, Jessica—a pseudonym—at a local health food store. This was because I had been traveling and hadn’t been in the part of the country where they lived for over a year. After I returned from my travels, I ran into Jessica sitting at a table in a coffee shop. Also exotically beautiful, and racially unidentifiable, Jessica was a couple of years younger than Nicholas. Although her appearance hadn’t changed much, she seemed completely different than when I had first seen her over a year ago. A year before, she was someone with whom I would never have expected to have a conversation. She was extremely shy, or at least so inwardly shut up inside of herself that I never saw her relate to anyone, except in the most perfunctory way, besides Nicholas. Once she had complimented my artwork, but otherwise we scarcely exchanged a complete sentence, even though I saw her almost every day. And it wasn’t just me; in the past there had been this powerful keep-away aura surrounding her like a force field. But then on seeing her at the coffee shop, I noticed an amazing change, she made strong, friendly eye contact, greeted me like an old friend, and she seemed completely relaxed, open, and eager to talk. I was astonished. I’ve almost never seen such an extraordinary change in someone in a year’s time.

We had a great heart-to-heart talk, and two or three more such conversations would take place over the next couple of weeks. Jessica was only about seventeen, but now had the poise of a much older woman, was highly intelligent, articulate, precociously wise, and her exotic beauty turned heads wherever she went. She acknowledged the profound change in herself and credited most of it to the influence of Nicholas. She explained that, with painstaking effort, patience, and insight, Nicholas had helped her to work her way out of her problems.

On the evening of the encounter, as part of a revelation of his own life story, Nicholas told me that Jessica had been brought up in a cult, and from the earliest age had been subjected to constant sexual abuse, had been raised to be a Kama Sutra trained sex slave. When I first met Jessica, I felt she was a borderline personality type, a person with a fragmented center who seemed likely to remain that way. Given her horrendous past, this wasn’t surprising. But the improvement in her was little short of astounding.

Much of our conversation that day in the coffee shop was about her relationship with Nicholas. They had been together for three or four years, which at their age was practically a lifetime. A traumatic aspect of the relationship, for her, was that she wanted to be monogamous, but Nicholas insisted on an open relationship, and he had affairs with other young women. He was never dishonest about this, did all he could to ease her discomfort, and always related to her as his principle lover, but, nevertheless, it was traumatic for her.

In the last conversation I had with Jessica, she mentioned that some guy she had known in the past, who had been abroad, had returned to town and was madly in love with her. She was apparently considering having an affair with him, since she had always been the monogamous partner in this open relationship.

A few days later, it was a freezing cold night and I was hanging out in my RV when Nicholas called me on my cell phone. Although I had had several heart-to-heart talks with Jessica recently, I still hadn’t spent any time with Nicholas outside of the five minute run-in at the health food store. Jessica told me several times that she wanted me to spend time with Nicholas because it had helped him so much in the past, but we had conflicting schedules, and it hadn’t happened yet. Nicholas told me on the cell phone that he desperately needed to talk to me that evening, that Jessica was leaving him for this new guy and was going to live with him in another country. He was close by and I told him to come right over.

Soon Nicholas was sitting across from me in the back of my eighteen-foot RV, drinking yerba mate. Outside, the wind was howling, and it was one of the coldest nights of the year. The lighting in the RV was rather dim. It had been a gray, overcast day, and my solar panel hadn’t fully charged the deep-cycle batteries. With the propane furnace running, which uses an electric fan, electricity was low and I lit a couple of candles for more light. Nicholas looked quite stressed compared to how he looked just a couple of weeks before. His complexion was what Ann Rice would have called, “preternaturally pale,” and he was thinner, his face looking drawn, and his elfin Japanimation features seemed ready to morph into Edvard Munch’s The Scream.

Naturally, the first thing we talked about was his relationship with Jessica. He reiterated some of the things that she had said about his successful efforts to help her, and told me about her abusive past. Although he had always insisted on an open relationship, and even though he knew it was hypocritical, now that the shoe was on the other foot, he felt terrible. She was spending the night with this guy right now. He might have been able to work through that, but now that she was suddenly leaving him to live with this guy in another country . . . He had come to view Jessica as family, and her leaving him now was a traumatic return of the feelings of abandonment he experienced with his parents.

We talked about this for some time. I gave him the best advice I could, and we did a couple of I Ching readings on the subject. After the readings, Nicholas told me that he was ready to change the subject, that he had spent the whole day talking to his closest friends about this traumatic breakup and he felt talked out on the subject.

Nicholas’s change of subject was rather unexpected and abrupt.

“I think I’m a vampire,” he said.

“How do you mean?” I asked.

“I feed off of other people’s energy.”

“Everybody does to some extent, can you give me an example?”

“For example, you,” replied Nicholas. “From the first time I met you, I wanted to feed off of your energy.”

“What do you mean by that?” I asked.

“I’ve always wanted to learn as much as I could from you, to absorb your ideas, and there’s always been a sexual undercurrent to it.”

This last part surprised me, seemed to come from left field, otherwise his explanation didn’t sound particularly vampiric. I assumed he had the hunger of a narcissistic personality type, always wanting more attention, which was very understandable considering how unparented he had been.

This may sound too obvious to be stated, but it’s always a good idea to pay attention when someone tells you they are a vampire or evil. Many years before someone warned me that they were evil, but I was too young and too busy being sympathetic to realize that I was getting a very serious warning from someone who was indeed evil but had a subordinate part of himself that possessed enough love for me to give me a heads up. This evil mutant even told me about the exact moment in his life, at age sixteen, when he experienced “the death of his soul.” Foolishly, I ignored the warning and this resulted in a vampiric energetic attack with lasting consequences, among an array of other dark consequences. But this is an even more bizarre story that might take hundreds of pages to unravel. And if that wasn’t enough of a prior lesson, when I was ten years old I survived a still more dangerous and bizarre, nearly fatal, paraspsychological attack that resulted in a dog mauling and hundreds of stitches. The point is, I should have known better; I had been there before, been bitten before. A classic pitfall is that if you have survived weird darkness you may develop a fatal vanity that you know what you’re doing or that lightening won’t strike twice—an especially foolish notion if your last name is Zap.

It may be true that most evil entities and vampires don’t tell you what they are. They’re often too busy being deceptive—“the devil hath power to assume a pleasing shape”— and you have to be able to see through the guise, the enticing aura of glamour, beauty, and power. But a surprising number of vampires and evil types will tell you what they are, often just once, like a subtly placed calling card, and you’d better pay attention. Often people make the mistake of thinking this person’s just a punk trying to show off; if they really were evil, vampiric, etc. they wouldn’t admit it. But many times they are both showing off and they are evil or vampiric. And don’t forget that narcissistic punks can be evil or vampiric too. Another dangerous delusion is that if you are what I call a “mutant”—a self-transforming round peg off the accepted scale of normality—then other mutants must be your allies. As a mutant myself, I have had the blessing and privilege to be a magnet for other mutants, but I have sometimes forgotten that mutants are not just dangerous to the collective, they can also sometimes be dangerous to other mutants. This is especially true if you underestimate them, or are glamorized by their charisma into overlooking their shadow.

In Nicholas’s case he was not showing off, was not a punk—except sometimes in style of dress—and was not toying with me, not playing the game of leaving the calling card hidden in plain view. He was seeking help for an actual condition. Unfortunately, I was busy being sympathetic, rather than empathic, and absorbing what he was telling me psychologically rather than bioenergetically. We passed over the vampire part, and I failed to notice the significance that the life story he then narrated well into the night had begun with that one stark statement: “I think I’m a vampire.” The revelation came and went too quickly, and I failed to recognize its continued relevance to the life story that followed. But in just a few more hours I would be taking it very seriously indeed.

Nicholas told me that he had no memory of the first four years of his life—it was a complete blank. He was pretty sure this was because his father, who later abandoned him, had abused him. There wasn’t a trace of incest survivor self-pity or victim glamour, and his hunch seemed plausible. A classic symptom of the abuse, which he noticed about himself, was that he had been extremely promiscuous with members of both genders from a very early age. There was a great deal of violence in his childhood. His mother went through a series of abusive boyfriends who were also abusive to him. As a young child he witnessed a brutal murder right inside his trailer home. His mother abandoned him at an early age, and he had to make it on his own as a street kid in a big city.

Much of this was a surprise to me, because even though I knew Nicholas was separated from his parents, he had a rather polished manner, was so intelligent and well-educated, and was always stylishly groomed and dressed in surreal costumes of various sorts, from Gothic to futuristic punk to fantasy Renaissance Fair attire. Presently, he seemed more elf-like than vampiric. He was wearing some sort of elaborate, laced leather jerkin, a finely made Renaissance Fair item that looked like what Orlando Bloom wore as Legolas in the Tolkien films. He did not seem like someone from a violent, trailer-trash background, though I vaguely remembered that he might have told me some of this a year before, but it never quite gelled in my mind because the detail was left out and it was so incongruous with the Nicholas I knew.

Nicholas’s life story didn’t have any feeling of fabrication about it, much of it depicted him in an unflattering light. He had been a victim of violence from the earliest age, but as he got older, and learned how to fight, he had also been quite violent himself, and with shame and anxiety he admitted that he had severely maimed one or more persons. He was a street kid living in a dangerous urban environment. For a while he lived with a man who was a major dealer of a designer drug in the rave world. Apparently he was this man’s companion, protégé, object of infatuation, bodyguard, and probably his lover. There was a certain park he went to in the city to have anonymous encounters with members of the same gender.

By the time I met him, Nicholas’s looks, intelligence and charisma—my observations, not his—had obviously opened doors for him, and he was able to make his way off the street and into more favorable circumstances, though he still lived close to the edge. But now, with the loss of Jessica, who lived in more affluent circumstances, a big part of his emotional and physical support system was falling away.

We talked well into the night, freezing wind howling outside the RV. Sometimes the gusts were strong enough to cause the fiberglass coach to roll slightly on its suspension, like a ship at sea. At some point, much earlier in the evening, Nicholas realized that he had missed the last bus to the town where he had a place to stay. He was used to staying in this town with Jessica, but obviously that wasn’t happening tonight. He asked if he could crash in my RV. Of course I said yes, my sleeping loft easily slept three, two with plenty of room to spare, and he didn’t seem to have any other option.

After recounting his life story, Nicholas said he was exhausted and looked it. I told him to take the far side of the sleeping loft, so I wouldn’t have to disturb him when I climbed up and took the near side. He lay down on the loft and seemed to instantly fall asleep. I followed sometime later. Usually I need less sleep than most people, and I am also a very, very light sleeper. This may be the result of years of training myself to wake up and recall my dreams. Often I have 100% recall, so I feel it’s a good trade off even though it is often a hardship for someone who travels as much as I do. I also tend to be hyper-sensitive to human energies, and it is almost impossible, for example, for me to fall asleep or remain asleep in a dwelling where anyone else is awake. So I knew it would be tough for me to fall asleep so near to someone else’s energy field, and I wanted to make sure Nicholas was sound asleep before I even tried.

When I did go up on the loft, I took the extreme near side so as to have as much personal space as possible. After I lay there for some minutes waiting for sleep, Nicholas rolled over in such a way that three different parts of his body, his forehead, knees, and toes, were lightly touching my body as he lay in a fetal position. I didn’t want to wake him, so I just lay there and eventually I fell asleep.

Sometime in the middle of the night, an inner survival warning system jolted me wide-awake in an instant. I’m not sure how to describe what followed because so many things were apparent simultaneously, but can’t be described simultaneously. Describing one thing after another would seem to imply a chronological sequence, but the first several things were all apparent in the first heartbeat or two of awakeness; they were more like a simultaneous overlay of perceptions and realizations rather than a sequential cascade. Please keep this in mind as I relate the following.

I was awakened by one of the most shocking and intense things I have ever felt in a long life of shocking anomalous experiences. A massive, massive energy transfer was happening, primal life energy, chi, was pouring out of me and into Nicholas’s sleeping body, which was still lightly touching mine. I found myself paralyzed, and this paralysis seemed a more active, energetic version of ordinary sleep paralysis. I felt myself restrained with lashings of fiery energy, much the way Gulliver, in Gulliver’s Travels, awoke to find that the tiny Lilliputians had restrained him with lashings of rope over his whole body.

There was a parasitic entity in the sleeping loft hovering just below the roof near our feet. It was like a dark lenticular cloud, or vortex, with a somewhat double-convex lens shape similar to the way a spiral galaxy looks from a great distance. My visual perception of it was not definite; it was dark and amorphous with fractal boundaries and rotating movement. I felt it energetically, a direct perception of it, and there may or may not have been an overlay of conventional, anatomical eyesight. I knew that this parasite was living in conjunction with Nicholas and was directing the massive, massive energy transfer while he slept. I felt that if this energy transfer were to continue for even three or four more heartbeats I couldn’t be sure if I would even be me anymore, if there would be anything left capable of resisting. (At least this is the way it felt.)

All of the above was a multilayered simultaneous realization. You may have experienced—I certainly have—that in life or death situations our psyche can step outside of slow, linear time thinking ego mode and go into an enhanced mode where profound layers of perception can unfold in a heart beat.

After this first heartbeat of recognition, there was a change in me, my will to resist emerged like a sword pulled from a sheath. In my mind a blue fire sparked, and instead of fear there was an intense curiosity and fascination; I had been studying mind parasites for years and now I was able to see how they actually worked!

With my mind fully awake, and my will activated to stop this vast, insidious suction of energy, the color temperature of my psychic energetic metabolism switched from red to blue, an energy that is apparently unnourishing, even dangerously toxic to parasites. The dark spiral cloud entity made a distinct sound at that point, and the only way I can language this sound—its meaning was instantly apparent—is to say that it was the sound of primal frustration of a very hungry animal that has been interrupted in the middle of feeding.

With my mind and will fully awakened, the parasitic cloud entity vanished like a puff of smoke, leaving not even a hazy residue. The energy transfer had already stopped and it was just Nicholas and I on the sleeping loft. All of this occurred in a space of less than six heartbeats, possibly as few as three or four, but it had indelibly etched itself on my memory.

Now perhaps you can make sense of my earlier statement that Nicholas seemed an innocent participant in the vampiric attack (as far as I can tell). Nicholas has never consciously acted to harm me in any way, unlike the other vampiric person who warned me he was evil. Even the attack did not appear to be harmful, because I had successfully resisted it. I didn’t feel drained the next day, or ill in anyway. Again, this was a dramatic contrast to the other vampiric attack, many years before, that left me ill for weeks afterwards. Months after I recovered from that illness, which much resembled giardia—a parasitic infection—the vampiric person called me on the phone from South Korea while I was in Manhattan, thousands of miles away, and within two minutes, before I hung up the phone, the illness returned!

Ultimately, the experience with Nicholas was a peak learning event revealing much about a very significant phenomenon. This does not mean that I encourage anyone to approach vampires to learn from them. Studying the dark side is one of the most classic ways to get sucked into the dark side, and that remains one of the most likely pitfalls for me.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." —Nietzche

Returning to my narrative, I stayed awake on the sleeping loft for some time, possibly the rest of the night, thinking about what happened and reinforcing the experience, both the conversation with Nicholas and the attack, into memory. I felt perfectly safe afterwards, though as an extra precaution I did an inner practice called “Theater of Memory,” which, among other virtues, is very effective in sealing and protecting energetic boundaries.

The following morning I told Nicholas what I had experienced and he seemed interested, but not the least surprised. He reminded me that he had told me the night before that he was a vampire, that he fed off of other people’s energy, and that he had always been attracted to mine. I could hardly accuse him of pulling the wool over my eyes. My tone was not accusatory or asking for apology, but one of fascination with what I had learned. We parted on good terms, though I have not seen Nicholas or Jessica ever since then.

There are many interesting details in this case study to comment on. The first that comes to mind is the paradoxical complexity of Nicholas as symbiont/host to a vampiric parasite and the many positive, even exemplary, things about him. Ann Rice’s vampires have much this same uneasy mixture of the admirable and the horrific. Nicholas had clearly had an astoundingly positive effect on Jessica, though he also suggested that his vampiric nature may have been unsatisfying to her erotically, and may be what caused her to seek fulfillment with another lover.

As an extremely attractive young male, Nicholas was a classic candidate for parasitic attack and infection. He may have been repeatedly raped as a small child, and was certainly highly promiscuous as an adolescent. Just as physical sex is now known as a great disease vector for microbiological parasites—as above, so bellow—it is also a likely vector for energetic parasites. Similarly, a voracious appetite for food, with an inability to put on weight, is sometimes a symptom of physical parasites, like tape worms; perhaps it is also a symptom of energy parasites that want to rev up the metabolic fires of their hosts. In the movie The Matrix , Neo is derisively called “Coppertop,” a reference to Duracell batteries and a reminder to him that he exists to be used as a disposable energy source for parasitic machines.

The way Nicholas’s vampirism worked had remarkable parallels to the origin of vampires that eventually unfolds in Ann Rice’s Vampire Chronicles. In her vampire cosmology, a spirit, a disembodied entity—spirits are often said to be jealous of those possessing physical bodies—who has an affinity for human blood, is able to merge with the bodies of an ancient King and Queen of Egypt through the apertures of bloody wounds opened in their bodies by the stabbing knives of assassins. The King, Queen, and the disincarnate spirit become bonded, merged symbionts, and a new species is created, neither flesh nor spirit: the vampires. Nicholas, a self-proclaimed vampire, seemed to be a symbiont/host of a disembodied parasitic entity.

[DNA]

Posted by Shezbeth (here)
The entity(-ies) I interact with did not do so. When contact was first made, we walked/talked together at length and at the conclusion the entity made to depart (in a sense). I suggested that a lasting connection could be made and made the invitation

Well call me dense, but I never fully understood what you were saying before.
So you are stating that you have made a connection with one of these beings?
And that you are now the result of a cohabitation?
Fascinating.


Could you elaborate on your connection?
Do you feel the connection has been over all positive or negative?
Do you feel you can terminate the relationship?
Anything stand out as far as differences in your behavior?
Differences in your relationships?
Any change in your sex life? No real details needed I"m just curious as to any over all noticeable change in your appetites.
Any changes in so far as it relates with your family?
Anything change in terms of your vices? Drugs, alchohol, food,?
Do you find any parallels in terms of the story above with Jonathan Zap?

[Dawn]

DNA, I am glad you showed up on this thread to converse with me. I confess that I never did make it all the way through your 'Archonic Parasite Ra' thread. It was just too much bad news for me to take in all at once. I have read many pages of that thread, but not all. Anyway I like the post you pointed to above and am quoting some of it here:

Unfortunately, I now see that the possession of people's mind is not limited to a select individuals in positions of power on this planet. If the revelations in this press release are accurate, everyone is potentially being mentally manipulated by these creatures.

I was recently contacted by a mental health professional that confirmed my conclusions about this very serious problem. This individual has over 30 years of experience dealing with people in a clinical setting that are plaugued by these parasitic creatures. Here is a small portion of what was shared with me:

I reached over the corner of my cluttered desk and from a battered grey bookshelf, pulled down a copy of Beyond Fear, a Toltec Guide to Freedom and Joy by Don Miguel Ruiz. I positioned my office chair to where I could see my patient "G" out of the corner of my eye and began reading. .......................

.................I watched G out of the corner of my eye as I read alert for any movement. He remained motionless. When I finished reading, eager to get his opinion, I looked up with curious anticipation. When I looked up I was greeted by a pair of cold, reptilian eyes which glared at me with pure hatred so dark and intense that it sent chills coursing up my spine.

The transition from the sociable, curious inmate I had been speaking to moments before to what appeared to be an animal intent on murder stunned me. What looked at me through G’s eyes was not G. Apprehension consumed me. With my eyes glued on G, I rolled my chair against the back wall and braced for an attack. I felt a predator about to pounce. He sat silently boiling with piercing hatred

Yes... this is what I see peering out from behind peoples eyes. I can actually 'see' the energy of these things, and I know when one is about to 'attack' me. They don't really have any power but they attempt to upset their intended victim and goad them into a negative response.... they like the negative emotional energies generated by most people during such social interactions.

When they speak to me through their hosts, I just spread my energy out like an amorphous field. Then I allow the energy of their attack, and the words that usually accompany it, pass through me. In this condition I feel no emotions what-so-ever. I am not harmed or as food by them as long as I do not have an emotional response.

I think this is the truth behind the saying, "DON'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT IS UNFAVORABLE TO YOURSELF" and "TURN THE OTHER CHEEK". This simple advice points to these situations and how to avoid being harmed by the parasites behind them.

[Shezbeth]

I'm going to do the 'bolded response' thing on this one. Later additions/comments in red.

Posted by DNA (here)
So you are stating that you have made a connection with one of these beings?
I made a connection with something, and while I am reasonably certain that it is of an extra-dimensional nature, I cannot be absolutely certain.

And that you are now the result of a cohabitation?
Cohabitation is not an accurate term for it, it is more like the a Bat-phone with video chat mixed with the computer from Star Trek, where I can share perceptions, thoughts, and what I see, hear, feel, etc.

Could you elaborate on your connection?
Are you requesting further elaboration, or will the above suffice? I certainly can, but I hope you know your Star Trek, as I have found the most accurate metaphor to illustrate.

Do you feel the connection has been over all positive or negative?
Exclusively positive. I can't recall any aspect of interactions that have been adverse.

Do you feel you can terminate the relationship?
The possibility exists, and there have been times I have closed the connection. I have never felt the need/want to keep the connection closed however, so I generally leave it open.

Anything stand out as far as differences in your behavior?
Yes. Prior to any such interaction I was very hyperactive, inconsiderate, and loud. It wasn't an immediate change, it was a gradual one that resulted of having indicated (in as biting a sarcasm as I often display) the ludicrous nature and overall lack of conducivity engendered by such behavior. Simply, it is hard to keep being (as much of) a douche when you've got something 'on your shoulder' reminding you of your douchebaggery.

Differences in your relationships?
Yes and no. Prior to, I had engaged in a number of less-than healthy relationships with friends and in many cases family, and over time I felt less inclined to maintain those relationships. Again, nothing changed immediately, but over time I was increasingly able to recognize behaviors, trends, and dynamics that were neither helpful nor healthy in both myself and those whom I had for years chosen to associate with.

Any change in your sex life? No real details needed I"m just curious as to any over all noticeable change in your appetites.
No observable changes, though my sexual activity up to and after the occurrence has been overwhelmingly below the average. I wasn't a virgin at the time, but only barely so by 1 experience about 3 months prior. I misspoke, I was a virgin at the time, 'that' didn't happen until the following may.

Any changes in so far as it relates with your family?
Not directly, but as with the friends and relationships, I have been able to recognize unhealthy and/or predatory behavior within my family dynamic which I am unwilling to perpetuate or allow for.

Anything change in terms of your vices? Drugs, alchohol, food,?
Yes. Gradually, I felt less inclined to participate with harder drugs (LSD, Psylocybin, and MDMA x Mescaline) and no longer do them. I still smoke pot on a semi-regular basis, and where I used to drink heavily and daily, I now drink moderately but rarely (celebrations and such).

Do you find any parallels in terms of the story above with Jonathan Zap?
Yes, but I'll have to get back to you on that in a minute, the household computer is required by another.
There are several parallels, comparisons, and antitheses to Zap's story. As far as physiological description, the only difference between me and this Nicholas individual is that my hair is blond, and my clothing style is (self-titled) 'ninja-sheik'. I was want to wear predominantly dark/black clothing (not in a goth style, but with emphasis on blacks and greys) and my hair was mostly kept at least 18" or more in length. Additionally while mine was neglect and not sexual, he and I come from abusive backgrounds though mine was upper/middle class. I have always had an incredible metabolism regardless the type or volume of food that I eat, though the portions I generally consume are well within (and in some cases less) than 'average'.

In school, I was the kid who regularly (still do) read the dictionary, so in addition to being outspoken and unreserved, I had a tendency to 'beat' others with my vocabulary (still do ). An old associate of mine exactly fits the given description of 'Jessica', and she was also from a sexually abusive background (not a cult, an older sibling) and displays a comparably tangible 'aura' of 'don't come too close'. Interestingly enough, the individual who she is now married to is consistent with what I would describe as a vampire, though he is far to nescient of the subject to claim or be aware. I was also interested in Anne Rice as a developing adolescent, but largely though influence of my associates and less because of personal interest.

I'm not a vampire, but I have the ability to draw/absorb energy, as well as to emit and transmit it. I have had numerous experiences with vampiric individuals (or perhaps, individuals with attached entities) who seemed (mostly, some exceptions) entirely oblivious of it, and have noticed that if I am not careful will end up drawing them toward me.

The story of the vampiric experience is interesting, because it is both comparable and opposite to experiences I've participated in with my spouse. For several years (starting before we met) she has had bouts of sleep-paralysis, as well as 'invaders' of a sort which are consistent with the common description of Draconis reptilians as testified by Simon Parkes and others. What is particularly odd - in contrast to Zap's story - is that making physical contact with me is one of the ways to end and/or prevent the onset/continuation of 'visitation'; we usually sleep while making contact by feet, but any other type of physical contact when resting/sleeping is bothersome.

She has never commented on an experience of draining, but she vividly describes the experience of terror, apprehension, etc (so I wouldn't rule out vampirism). Also, while touching me or being touched by me is a way to get the entity(-ies) she is beset by to leave, throat singing is a practice by which I can consistently and regularly get it/them to flee with immediacy.

UNlike the Zap story, I have never been able to see any particular visitors, at best I can detect an abnormal 'shimmer' to the air when directed to look at 'the thing', and that only with concentration.

I feel I should reiterate that up to, during, and after initial contact and conversation with the entity(-ies)* nothing about me seemed to change. It was like meeting a surprising and delightful individual and then exchanging phone numbers and/or e-mail addresses, but where both parties reside so impossibly far away that except in rare circumstances, proximity interaction is impossible.

The changes I describe are more resultant of having 'someone' to bounce ideas back and forth with. Having an 'outside' perspective allowed me to identify biases, rationalizations, fallacies and such in my own perceptions, decisions, demeanors, etc. because I was able to perceive how it sounded/appeared from an outside perspective. At no point has the entity ever told me to do anything, though it has helped me to reason out a great deal of things utilizing my own faculties.

* I keep referring so because while I perceive the entity as being singular, I also recognize that there could be a variety of entities maintaining the 'other end' of the connection, though the interaction is consistent whether its one or many.

If you have any additional questions or would like greater elaboration, please let me know and I'll be happy to include. One thing the entity (I'll dispense with the -ies) and I have in common is that I am more than happy to volunteer ideas, perceptions, information, descriptions, etc. All I/it require is a sincere, open mind; that or the appearance of such, in a gradually decreasing number of cases. ^_~

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
I have had so many instances of 'attacks' (I'll give examples in a moment) that I finally began to recognize a certain type of being looking out of people's eyes at me. Becoming aware that something non-human is looking out of the eyes of humans at me has been a long road.

This really makes me think of what are called Shadow Beings. I feel they are different than a lot of beings. I feel shadow beings are after sexual connections and I feel your statement here is an example of this.

Posted by Dawn (here)
-After a number of rapes and molestations as a young woman I decided to heal the trauma energy involved in my sexuality. Part of this journey took me to a class where this was worked on in a community setting. The man I did one exercise with had 'something' come into his eyes... but he did not act according to its urging because of the class setting... In response I felt something 'evil' rise up and peek through my eyes. What was that? It resonated exactly with the energies of the rapists and molestors who had attacked me in my childhood... and it is not human IMO

-My ex-husband and I are still great friends. He is a loving and wonderful man. 2x in our 28 year marriage 'something' climbed into his body and became physically violent without warning or provocation. The first time we were in a motel and I allowed 'it' to rape me after slapping and hitting me, the second time was at our home and I got away after a few slaps by locking myself in the bedroom. At no other time in our marriage was my husband ever violent in any way, either physically or verbally. He has no recall what-so-ever of either of the 2 incidents.

So, here is what I have to say to you in answer to your post. You either do not have this demonic energy in your family line or in your life... or you are not yet aware that it is there. It is very tricky and very surprising, for the people who focus it appear to our 5 senses to be 'normal'... however the behavior and energy they display is not human.

I come from a similiar background, and my teens and twenties were spent in a state of constant sexual agitation and for lack of a better word "the hunt".
I speak from experience when I say I too have felt this manifestation show up in my eyes, the result being that my head was on swivel when an attractive woman would pass by. I also began to pursue women who returned this same look.

I'm not proud of this, I'm simply stating it so it can be said.


The shadow being I speak of is not a Djinn as far as I am concerned. It is a ghost, "I think" swept up into a organized "mafia" type afterworld organization.





I have a story where I disconnected one, and the connection it had was physical in nature.
From what I learned, the only way to stay clear of them and their influence, is once one has connected to you, after you remove it, you have to remain celibate.
A most difficult and nearly impossible undertaking in this society, and probably any.

My interaction with a shadow being

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
DNA, I am glad you showed up on this thread to converse with me. I confess that I never did make it all the way through your 'Archonic Parasite Ra' thread. It was just too much bad news for me to take in all at once.

Just for the record that wasn't me. That was Houman. And I have to agree with you, I've never made it through that thread either. I don't like the negative artwork and hopeless conclusians. I believe in keeping an open mind and not acting like I understand any of this with any kind of certainty. I did do the Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Parasite thread, but, you were all over that thread. It was a few years ago though.
Ancient history as far as Avalon is concerned.

[DNA]

[QUOTE=Shezbeth;824147] I'm going to do the 'bolded response' thing on this one.

Posted by DNA (here)
So you are stating that you have made a connection with one of these beings?
I made a connection with something, and while I am reasonably certain that it is of an extra-dimensional nature, I cannot be absolutely certain.

I've been reading over what you have been describing and I"m honestly at a loss.

Posted by Shezbeth (here)
DNA"S QUESTION "And that you are now the result of a cohabitation?"
Cohabitation is not an accurate term for it, it is more like the a Bat-phone with video chat mixed with the computer from Star Trek, where I can share perceptions, thoughts, and what I see, hear, feel, etc.

In the lengthy post I made on page 8 titled "DNA's interactions with a vampire", I met a person named Darren, he told me of a horrible childhood, much abuse, sexual abuse and violence along with neglect, the kind of thing that makes you lose faith in the human race. His brothers became violent drug addicts who were in prison, his sisters became sex industry workers and drug addicts, he swore to me the only reason he was not in the same boat as they, was because one day he was propositioned by what he called his animal totem. He stated it was a great cat type animal, and he swore to me that this was the reason he was able to change his life. His negative behavior and addictions were no more. And I"ll be honest, he was clean well dressed and seemed to have no malice about him.

Given the choice, he may have chosen well.
I will never believe one's mortal soul is at stake in this type of sharing.
Do you feel any type of similarity here? Do you feel an alternative or bad path was altered by your new found relationship?

Posted by Shezbeth (here)
DNA's QUESTION "Any change in your sex life? No real details needed I"m just curious as to any over all noticeable change in your appetites."
No observable changes, though my sexual activity up to and after the occurrence has been overwhelmingly below the average. I wasn't a virgin at the time, but only barely so by 1 experience about 3 months prior.

I find this fascinating to no end.
I find that sexual activity and I"m no prude here, but I find sexual activity be it actual or self fulfilled being that the conclusian is orgasm tends to feed what I have termed shadow creatures.
Regardless of what people may think, I find this the norm where folks are concerned rather than the exception.
But I also find it fascinating to ponder on the possibility that if someone where to abstain for a length and be free from this shadow entity. This dark mafia of sexual energy, that a positive connection could be made by a higher dimensional wishing to view/experience our existance.
Interesting stuff. A lot of assumptions are made here by myself, I do not wish to pry, so take the statement as rhetorical if you wish.

[Dawn]

Shezbeth: Also, while touching me or being touched by me is a way to get the entity(-ies) she is beset by to leave, throat singing is a practice by which I can consistently and regularly get it/them to flee with immediacy.

Shezbeth, please elaborate about 'throat singing'.

I would also like to say here that I have been beset by entities pretty much all of my life. The wonderful man I share my life with has changed that for me. When we met 3 years ago he actually knew I had trouble without my speaking of it. One day he offered to show himself to me and actually 'unzipped' his body to show me a white light being with wings. I told him of seeing this and he is very aware of his wings (always has been) ..... He says he keeps them 'wrapped around me' so that I am always protected. Now this discussion is not about the 'lovey dovey' stuff that is based on male-female earth relationships. This discussion has been between 2 energetic beings who recognize each other. My partnership with him also strengthened him, and has given him some liberation from his own set of limitations and attachments. I'm not sure why I could not hold my own energy field in a shielding sort of way... perhaps it is all of the trauma and sexual abuse I experienced as a girl and young woman.

Lately I have been doing some really deep work with Jin Shin Jyutsyu and also with an I Ching based modality. Together with my new life I am (for the very first time) having the experience of a dense core to my body/being experience here. Perhaps I am developing enough density in my body to begin to be able to shield myself from 3D attack... not sure, but I suspect this is the case.

[Dawn]

DNA: I come from a similar background, and my teens and twenties were spent in a state of constant sexual agitation and for lack of a better word "the hunt".
I speak from experience when I say I too have felt this manifestation show up in my eyes, the result being that my head was on swivel when an attractive woman would pass by. I also began to pursue women who returned this same look. .............

......................I have a story where I disconnected one, and the connection it had was physical in nature.
From what I learned, the only way to stay clear of them and their influence, is once one has connected to you, after you remove it, you have to remain celibate.
A most difficult and nearly impossible undertaking in this society, and probably any.

For others who might read this thread I'd like to shine a ray of hope here.

I did a LOT of trauma recovery work for YEARS and YEARS and YEARS on myself..... then I took training and helped others release their trauma. Yet, I was unable to totally release the sexual wounding locked into my body. I believe that entities from the sexual predators who accosted me were able to cross over into my body and infest it due to physical contact with the men in question. These sexual parasites seem to recognize each other and they cause attraction between one infected human and another. ICH!

(So DNA, consider that YOU may not have been the one creating LUST energy... likely you had parasites trying to stimulate your body into feeding them. That is what I think this is about)

YET... I am actually healed from this now IMHO

Here is how this occurred for me. I was directed to the man I live with now by a very audible mans voice in my head (considering all we have looked at on Avalon about the Voice of God this doesn't sound too good- right?). I was in the process of dismissing my partner as unworthy because of his tiny trailer residence. THE VOICE simply asked a question, "How do you expect to ever heal yourself sexually if you do not have a physical man who can help you?". That was it.. the VOICE would not converse any further and I ended up moving in with my partner about a week later.

So how did this healing take place? My partner has the healthiest sexuality that I have ever seen in a human. He has absolutely ZERO shame and honors his masculine body as being both beautiful and natural. He has practiced sex without orgasm most of his life in order to continually harvest his own energies, yet he does allow a full release occasionally with a woman as a gift of energy to her. This is the amazing man I moved in with and who helped my body heal from sexual abuse. Due to trauma my body had closed down all the energy flows which enliven female genitalia. That area of my body was tough, hardened, and almost completely closed up. The tissue was like scar tissue. There was no possible way for normal sexual function with such anatomy. Over the first month we were together we worked to release all lust, shame, fear, grief, anger and so on that came up around the topic of sex and around any act that appeared to have a sexual connotation. It took many many hours and a lot of devotion to healing.... but I am finally well. Once the healing was completed, we had sexual intercourse, without orgasm, for some months until the desire to do so simply ended.

I am so glad I did not die with this trauma locked into my energy field!!!

[Shezbeth]

Posted by DNA (here)
I made a connection with something, and while I am reasonably certain that it is of an extra-dimensional nature, I cannot be absolutely certain.

I've been reading over what you have been describing and I"m honestly at a loss.

I make that statement in observance that while I have seen the entity with my eyes (just the once), and can interact with it relatively at will, I cannot with certainty claim that it "is" or "isn't" anything except that it isn't human. It's even possible that it is a figment of my imagination or something, kind of like Tyler Durden in Fight Club, but given our interactions I find that to be highly improbable. While there is a certain mystique to the interaction and its elusive nature, I have to weigh and evaluate every potential and accomodate the possibilities. I can reasonably assume that it is a Djinn or other such entity, but I have to admit that I am not 100%.

Cohabitation is not an accurate term for it, it is more like the a Bat-phone with video chat mixed with the computer from Star Trek, where I can share perceptions, thoughts, and what I see, hear, feel, etc.

In the lengthy post I made on page 8 titled "DNA's interactions with a vampire", [...] one day he was propositioned by what he called his animal totem. He stated it was a great cat type animal, and he swore to me that this was the reason he was able to change his life. His negative behavior and addictions were no more. And I"ll be honest, he was clean well dressed and seemed to have no malice about him.

I very much enjoyed your story of Darren, and there are similarities and consistencies to that story as well. The most glaring being that in the initial encounter with the entity it appeared to me as a form of wolf (it was blurry), and at the time I also identified it as an animal totem or spirit animal. Two years later I was doing a guided meditation and I could 'see' it more clearly as being a coyote. I don't credit it with being responsible, but I will admit that it played the most significant 'not me' role in my ongoing potentiation and emergence.

Do you feel any type of similarity here? Do you feel an alternative or bad path was altered by your new found relationship?

I find the idea of 'altered paths' to be a misinterpretation. I find there are only two things in the realm of manifestation, that which is inevitable and that which is not. Having said, I will admit that interaction with this entity was the influence that helped me to realize my inevitable progress, so I suppose any disagreement is semantic.

No observable changes, though my sexual activity up to and after the occurrence has been overwhelmingly below the average. I wasn't a virgin at the time, but only barely so by 1 experience about 3 months prior. I misspoke, I was a virgin at the time, 'that' didn't happen until the following may.

... I find sexual activity be it actual or self fulfilled being that the conclusion is orgasm tends to feed what I have termed shadow creatures.

I agree, though I am uncertain of your usage of the term 'shadow'; do you mean 'dark' or do you mean 'hidden' (I'm thinking hidden). There is an overwhelming amount of energy involved in sexual acts, and I'm of the mind that there are entities absorbing, vamping, or otherwise basking in the 'glow' no matter what the participants do. Personally, I'm of the mind that there is never a point where an individual is entirely unobserved by something or someone.

Interesting stuff. A lot of assumptions are made here by myself, I do not wish to pry, so take the statement as rhetorical if you wish.

No need. I'm bouncing around topically, and doing back and forth to previous posts for accuracy and reference, so I may include more if I feel I have been remiss.

Edit: After consideration, I would like to amend the previous about cohabitation, bat-phones, and Star Trek-esque computers, to include the idea of embassies and ambassadors. In establishing connection, I deliberately 'fabricated' a space designated and authorized for the entity to inhabit and interact from. In the Star Trek (DS9 specifically) metaphor, it was like allowing an outside (non Starfleet) ambassador/representative to have their own quarters, but without affording/delegating any authority or decisive control over the ship/station and without any ambassadorial privilege. Specifically, "in my head" I built a 'dog-house' (literally modeled after Charles Shultz's Snoopy house).

In light of this, I recognize that one could rightfully describe the situation as 'I am possessed by something' depending on perspective, but in experience I find this to be wholly inaccurate. It would be more accurate to say that I have chosen to possess a 'piece' of the entity with their cooperation and permission, insomuch as the relationship is maintained along mutually beneficial lines.

I don't claim that this is precisely what is meant, but it is similar to how Carlos Castaneda refers to the voice of the second attention and his interactions with it after claiming the authority to silence it.

[Shezbeth]

Posted by Dawn (here)
Shezbeth, please elaborate about 'throat singing'.

I already have. ^_~

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Throat-Singing

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
My partner has the healthiest sexuality that I have ever seen in a human. He has absolutely ZERO shame and honors his masculine body as being both beautiful and natural. He has practiced sex without orgasm most of his life in order to continually harvest his own energies, yet he does allow a full release occasionally with a woman as a gift of energy to her.

I can't believe we took this here.
I'm cool with it.
Maybe a few traumatized Avalonians questioning the normal G rating, but hey, you can't make an omellete without breaking a few eggs.

Yea, I found the Mantauk Chia stuff when I was pretty young. His Chi Kung is based on the idea, for men atleast that you have to NOT orgasm. No ejaculation of anykind. Instead you are supposed to be able to circulate your sexual energy in what is called the microcosmic orbit.

I fully believe this to be true.
I tried my best and had a forty day and nearly thirty day stint and a bunch of times I got into the teens.

But I am a mere mortal man, and this stuff is super duper hard to maintain.

Probably worth it, and I absolutely recomend it to folks.

Posted by Shezbeth (here)
I agree, though I am uncertain of your usage of the term 'shadow'; do you mean 'dark' or do you mean 'hidden' (I'm thinking hidden). There is an overwhelming amount of energy involved in sexual acts, and I'm of the mind that there are entities absorbing, vamping, or otherwise basking in the 'glow' no matter what the participants do. Personally, I'm of the mind that there is never a point where an individual is entirely unobserved by something or someone.

I agree 100% with what you state here in terms of sexual energy and sex almost always being a spector-spectating sport if you will.

I hyperlinked a interaction I had with a shadow being earlier, it may clear up what I'm saying in those terms.
The defining characteristic is this.
Well let me start off by saying I can see ghosts. No big deal.
But a shadow being is not the same thing.
I can see a ghost head on, they are phantasmagorical and take human esque form if they see you looking at them. They also have the hindu dot in the middle of their head, where their pineal glad would be. And it's red.

A shadow being is the absence of light, I can only see one out of the corners of my eyes. I can move my head back and forth so as to keep it in my vision, but it is different. Now I can speculate here, but it seems to be that Shadow beings, even though they seem different than ghosts, are still ghosts, but they are ghosts who have circumvented reincarnational order for a long time, and also they have engaged in parasatism, forced parasatism, and because they are in essense stealing it makes them easy prey for parasatism.
Shadow beings are corded, and fed on by those higher in their heiarchy, It is a pyramid scheme.

[Dawn]

Shezbeth: Quote Posted by Dawn (here)
Shezbeth, please elaborate about 'throat singing'.
I already have. ^_~

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Throat-Singing

Thank you for this post Shezbeth. I have wanted to understand a bit more about this for a long time. In the past I've attended a concert given by monks who practice this as a way of achieving higher states of consciousness. It was really amazing... and you have supplied my quest for a toehold into this information.

I fully believe this to be true.
I tried my best and had a forty day and nearly thirty day stint and a bunch of times I got into the teens.

But I am a mere mortal man, and this stuff is super duper hard to maintain.

Probably worth it, and I absolutely recommend it to folks (Mantak Chia's works).

What I am trying to tell you DNA is that it is likely your INFECTION OF ENTITIES which is pushing you into sexuality. Some of the ones I had were attached directly to the genital area of my body and were very difficult to detach. If you were infected in this way then you would experience being out of control of your sexuality. Since I had them... and then got rid of them I can attest to this being the case... You cannot control or maintain what is NOT YOU.

I also know that the discipline is much more difficult for a man than for a woman. Did you realize that Mantak recommends you do his exercises only as long as comfortable and that if you need a release you can decide to have one? Having a release does not mean you have to permanently get off the wagon... you can continue to practice for a while until you decide to have another release... a week, a month, a year, etc. It is good that this info is finally available to the interested general public, rather than being hidden for so many years.

I'd like to add here 2 actual positive interactions with non-corporeal beings.

Taoist Shadow being:
The first one began with my attendance at a business conference far from my home. It was a strange time for me, as I had already had my 'death and reinsertion' experience. I no longer felt like I belonged among human company. On the second day of the seminar I was wandering the halls of the conference center, watching groups of humans gathered to discuss business, when I was approached by a stranger. He handed me a very expensive taped set of Taoist lectures held within a portfolio case. Handing this to me he said simply, "I was told to give these to you, they are yours". Then he vanished into the crowds of people and I never saw him again. Returning home I began to listen to the audio lectures and doing the practices suggested. These practices were accompanied by HUGE rushes of energy. During tape 4 the speaker said, "Go into the woods at night and you will be met by a teacher'.

Without hesitation I went into the woods that night and, sure enough, there was a 'teacher'. It was this shadow being 'teacher' who accompanied me while I walked at night in the woods for the next 7 years. At first it was really difficult in the extreme to understand what he communicated to me! Our communication was rudimentary and done more through a feeling of flow... punctuated by definite sharp "NO-NOT THAT WAY!" communications. Over time I began to be able to 'pick up' more of what he meant for me to understand. He told me that he had no name that I would be able to pronounce, and that using a name for him was inappropriate. He helped me become aware that I could listen to the earth with all of my cells, see the ground with the bottoms of my feet, communicate with plants, and know when I am in a place where earth frequencies are beneficial to me.

I could only see him out of the corners of my eyes, just as you mentioned DNA and also as Simon spoke of. He wore a dark cape and I never could see a face in there. He also did not have legs but seemed to have space beneath himself and the earth, though it was hard to be certain since the cloak was full length. I read somewhere that these types do not have lower chakras like humans do and are therefore not able to connect with the earth... which is why they never appear 3D to us. Perhaps this explanation is a good one. This being vanished when I began attending the Open Gate Sangha meditations and retreats and I have not seen him since.


Healing Female flier
While attending a week long silent retreat at a Buddhist center I met a healing entity. This was an interesting center. I slept in a room right out of the pages of National Geographic. It was painted with ornate and brilliant patterns (wow! Those Tibetan monks REALLY like colors!) and filled with an entire wall of glass cases in which over a thousand ancient scrolls were kept. Since I am not Buddhist, and my group was only renting the woodland center I was not allowed to take a closer look.

After a number of days of sitting in the meditation hall I became aware of deeper and deeper layers of disharmony... meditation works this way for me. As disharmony is seen/experienced I must balance it and then the next depth opens up. Well, I had been rather stuck for 2-3 days on just how to 'help' my kidneys. They were in pain and had a very strong voice of the victim. I really did not know how to help them, for all that they said was based in the truth of experiences from this life. Any attempts to help them were met with outrage and defensive energies.

That was when a 'healing entity' that resonated with the female energies of Quan Yin showed up. She stayed with me for about 30 minutes and showed me by example how to heal this situation. She simply showered them with LOVE and lots of it. There was no attempt to do anything to alter their perception that they had been victimized and no attempt to move any energy... she simply radiated a HUGE amount of LOVE into that area. As she did so their song slowly stopped and they became quiet. I learned that I cannot argue with the truth... all I can do is radiate LOVE into something like that.

I never did see this one. Her energy was strongly female and I have a hunch she may be one that Tibetan Buddhists work with, which is why she showed up at Virjapani Retreate Center. She was above my head in location and shown the healing energy down through my crown and into the kidney area from there. When she was done she simply flew away.

[DNA]

Posted by Dawn (here)
He helped me become aware that I could listen to the earth with all of my cells, see the ground with the bottoms of my feet, communicate with plants, and know when I am in a place where earth frequencies are beneficial to me.

I could only see him out of the corners of my eyes, just as you mentioned DNA and also as Simon spoke of. He wore a dark cape and I never could see a face in there. He also did not have legs but seemed to have space beneath himself and the earth, though it was hard to be certain since the cloak was full length.

I"ve met a couple of nature beings before, I state this because normally if someone told me this I would think it was a nature being you were talking to. But I give you the benefit of the doubt, and if you say it was a shadow being then it probably was.

This leads me to offer another explanation for the shadow beings.
I stated earlier that I was of the opinion that the shadow being I had encountered was a discarnate human who had attained his shadow being state through long duration in the fourth dimension and his association with a parasitic mafia of sorts. My logic here being that shadow beings were in fact ghosts who had been dead a long time.

This may not be the case at all. I also do not believe shadow beings to be the Djinn. They just do not seem to fit that description.

I've always had a second popular theory as to the origin of the shadow beings.

STANZA VII from the book of Dyzaan "Madame Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine"
24. THE SONS OF WISDOM, THE SONS OF NIGHT, READY FOR REBIRTH, CAME DOWN, THEY SAW THE VILE FORMS OF THE FIRST THIRD, "WE CAN CHOOSE," SAID THE LORDS, "WE HAVE WISDOM." SOME ENTERED THE CHHAYA. SOME PROJECTED THE SPARK. SOME DEFERRED TIL THE FOURTH. FROM THEIR OWN RUPA THEY FILLED THE KAMA. THOSE WHO ENTERED BECAME ARHATS. THOSE WHO RECEIVED BUT A SPARK, REMAINED DESTITUTE OF KNOWLEDGE; THE SPARK BURNED LOW. THE THIRD REMAINED MIND-LESS. THEIR JIVAS WERE NOT READY.

Footnote:
*The idea and the spirit of the sentence is here given, as a verbal translation would convey very little to the reader.
Secret Doctrine - Vol. 2 page 18

I"ve always felt that this and other passages like it are stating, that not all of the souls who came to earth were very fond of entering into and accepting human bodies.
I've often wondered if these "shadow" beings, are in fact a hold over from the souls that originally refused to enter mankind.
I mean, I say that out loud and sounds ridiculous, but, there are times I felt it worthy of consideration.


I've also considered via Edgar Cayce that the other planets in our solar system are home to life of a different frequency or dimensionality.
The shadow being could be a inhabit of one of these planets and in this case a visitor.

[Dawn]

Thanks DNA... the 'knowing' that I received about this being was that he was coming from a distant dimension. This reality where he resided was so different from earth that he could only send a portion of himself to be with me nightly. He seemed to be somewhat 'stern' in his mentoring. His presence kept me focused on pushing all the boundaries in my conditioning. He set me many challenges such as .... running barefoot across a wild hillside meadow in the dark with my eyes closed. Such things, and this is only one example, pushed me past the boundaries of fear and into finding out that I had abilities which I was not aware of. For example, a wild meadow full of rodent holes, sharp stones, spiders, snakes and so on is, in theory, not a safe place to run across barefooted with eyes closed. I had to keep my body safe somehow, which is why I learned to see with the cells on the bottom of my feet.

And what to make of being handed an expensive recording set from someone I did not know. Not only that, but the recordings were all about a form of Taoism based on ascending through communion with nature and moving past physical death. According to Mantak Chia there are hundreds and even thousands of Taoist masters who did not die and who still walk the earth based on their Taoist practices.

As far as nature spirits, I have had the privilege of having a number of these show themselves to me. I am familiar with many of them. I really do not think my mentor was one of these. He did not seem to be responsible for maintaining any of the earth gardens or species like all of the earth elementals I've met.

[wegge]

isn´t it possible to live in symbiotic relationship with these other "things" like it´s seen in nature like plants and fungi etc.??