WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Denise/Dizi]

And it begins...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_oBGQFujAmY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DApQ-auKU3o

[Mashika]

Only military positions have been hit, no city on Ukraine has been bombed, there are reporters and videos coming up and everything is normal


https://t.me/rt_russian/94291

There are long car lines on Kiev to get gas before it runs out. Don't know where they will go but seems a lot of people are trying to leave the big cities

A message to Zelensky has been posted online and it's getting shared just now

President Zelensky made an appeal to Ukrainians and Russians.

I will not comment on the appeal to Ukrainians, but I will focus on the Russian part. Zelensky asks how he will bomb Donbass if he went to the local stadium, drank with friends in the park, if his friends and his citizens are there, looking at the camera with sincere eyes. He said that the Russians don't know what these places are, and therefore why they should fight there. And he knows.

Well, good. Vladimir Alexandrovich, what has been happening in the Donbass for the last eight years? From whom did the shells come? According to the UN, during this time, 13,400 people have died in places so dear to your heart. Do you know who shot at them? Otherwise, it turns out that you are either lying, or the military command of your country simply spits on your orders and does what it wants.

You claim that Russians don't know anything about the names of cities and places that you list. Perhaps. But all Russians know where the House of Trade Unions is, because people were burned alive there. All Russians know Gorlovka and the Gorlovka Madonna - a girl with a child killed by a Ukrainian shell. All Russians remember Debaltseve, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk. We didn't drink beer there and didn't cheer for football teams. We watched in impotent rage as our people died there. Now these are the places of our pain.

Russians don't start wars. The Russians are finishing them. I hope we'll finish this one quickly.

[Mashika]

There's way too much information coming across, impossible to show it all in real time

This channel may have valuable information, but i do doubt some of their claims, still it seems to have serious links as far as i can see

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary

ASB Military News, and found with same name on Telegram if needed (they had been blocked a day or two ago by Twitter)

[Mashika]

I'm sorry for this funny post, amongst the terrible situation going on, but this guy is a newbie lol

https://t.me/donbassr/12649

"It's a f*king missile, we have to go inside!"

Yeah dude, going inside means nothing at this level, you should have been briefed about it.

If you see a missile flying above and you want to quit, then you are no war correspondent guy, i'm sorry but you are not. Imagine having to see the worst of it

It's not the same as when you saw the news about Iraq, Syria or the other hundred countries destroyed by the US empire than being in a war zone when you feel unprotected, see the difference? That's how millions have felt over so many decades, time for some introspection dude

But i doubt it will happen, the wondering and realisation that "this is how it feels on the other side"

[Mashika]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
And it begins...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_oBGQFujAmY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DApQ-auKU3o

It began 8 years ago, unfortunately. It just took this time for it to be "real" for you guys, for me it was real since 2013, and for millions on Donbass as well

But since it wasn't of concern for the US government back then it was ignored and put on the "will look into it later, maybe" list. Most people don't understand how that feels

You see this as a new thing, but you don't understand how it truly came to this, it has been hidden from you. The misery and killing of thousands up to this point that no one told you about are very true, the UN knew about this, they had the evidence and reports full of pictures and videos and names and they chose to look away. This is what happens after years of ignoring a real crisis and accept the one created on purpose. The people at Donbass still don't have a voice, but they may have it soon, history will judge the crimes committed against them

[Zamolxe]

So after time and time again of me proving without a doubt the disinformation that was being spread on this forum, no action has been taken.

After repeatedly showing how lies are presented as facts, posts are misrepresented, obvious false flags are swept under the rug, hundreds of videos of the russian buildup were being ignored.... all that was done by the Avalon team was to point me out as a provocateur.

No action against the account that was spreading lies and launching in unprovoked attacks against me.

And after all this, you kept praising Putin as a great strategist. The dictator that just signed the death sentence of possibly tens of thousands of people.

This used to be a place where we valued human lives and opposed military invasions of sovereign countries. The hypocrisy is absolutely heart breaking.

Let's see how you spin it this time.

It makes me sick.

Maybe this is finally the moment you all realize that you are being grossly manipulated and the people you trusted are nothing but propaganda tools. Remember everyone that has been saying "nothing to see here" these past weeks.

Bombs have just been dropped 100km away from my border. My ukrainian and russian friends and brothers are now killing each other because of a mad man's dreams of imperialism. And it has all been abetted by the PR campaign waged here and everywhere else on the internet.

Reminder:

Posted by Zamolxe (here)
PS: This disinformation campaign is used to justify an invasion of Russia into Ukraine. This war will lead to massive loss of life, both civilians and military personnel. We all have to do whatever we can to bring light over the lies and try to impede these warmongering neocons however we can. Tens of thousands of lives are at risk. [...]
These lies are comparable to the WMD narrative that pushed the Iraq invasion. All the people helping the disinformation campaign will have blood on their hands.
Hold them accountable!

Anyone can just go back to the post quoted here and check the recap I made at that time. That's if you don't have the time to read the entire thread. It's truly mind blowing

[Mashika]

Can't argue with that

The US invaded Iraq and killed around one million people on a lie. Yet they feel they need to protect a Nazi army in their quest to cleanse around 3 million people out of Donbass

Makes perfect sense

[Mashika]

Just seen this

We are standing in formation. We are ready to go further, wherever the command says, to liberate our land.

"My separate greetings to Akhmetov, Kravchuk, Zelensky and other bastards. You could have followed the path of Lukashenka, but you went the other way. What will happen to you next will be decided by the Russian people and the people's Court. Denazification has begun."

Military commander and Honored Journalist of the DPR Gennady Dubovoy told the correspondent of the Donbass channel.

No mention of Petro Poroshenko? Have to mention that he was mentioned as leader of a coup in the works earlier this year and even in 2021. I still wonder how easy it was for the Ukrainian army to fall at this high level.

Is this a coup? Has Petro Poroshenko arranged help from Russia to take out the current government?

[Mashika]

There is another post that claims the two Airbus plains meant for Zelensky and associated + family have been taken, not destroyed but "taken"

But this brings up more questions. How could they be taken? Does this means confirmation that a coup is in the works? Who toke those planes? Russian troops are not on the ground neither on Kiev or Lyiv. So, who took them to avoid Zelensky leaving the country?

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)
There is another post that claims the two Airbus plains meant for Zelensky and associated + family have been taken, not destroyed but "taken"

But this brings up more questions. How could they be taken? Does this means confirmation that a coup is in the works? Who toke those planes? Russian troops are not on the ground neither on Kiev or Lyiv. So, who took them to avoid Zelensky leaving the country?

There were unconfirmed reports Russian Paras were already taking airports (civilian) in Kiev etc. Seems strange though, but not completely unlikely.

[Mashika]

Posted by 9ideon (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
There is another post that claims the two Airbus plains meant for Zelensky and associated + family have been taken, not destroyed but "taken"

But this brings up more questions. How could they be taken? Does this means confirmation that a coup is in the works? Who toke those planes? Russian troops are not on the ground neither on Kiev or Lyiv. So, who took them to avoid Zelensky leaving the country?

There were unconfirmed reports Russian Paras were already taking airports (civilian) in Kiev etc. Seems strange though, but not completely unlikely.

Yes, the entire Ukrainian Air Force seems to be down, but i don't get it, why? Why are not they fighting back? It doesn't make any sense

[Mashika]

As a very clear note, and to make sure nothing i say sounds "propaganda"

I don't collaborate or accept the way Russia's army works, and neither do i with Ukraine's army (specially) or with the Donbass republics

I reject war in all ways, as i have been through it and i have my own share of hurt out of it

I don't accept what is going on, but i do accept the people in Donbass needed desperate help since almost 10 years ago, and no one cared, not the UN, not NATO, not Russia, not the US, not anyone. And this, for me, is unacceptable.

This is the result of years of death and abuse, this is what happens when people choses money over life

Now we see this, and people still don't care, *they don't know the reality of this situation*. What is happening here will probably never be truly understood

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)

Posted by 9ideon (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
There is another post that claims the two Airbus plains meant for Zelensky and associated + family have been taken, not destroyed but "taken"

But this brings up more questions. How could they be taken? Does this means confirmation that a coup is in the works? Who toke those planes? Russian troops are not on the ground neither on Kiev or Lyiv. So, who took them to avoid Zelensky leaving the country?

There were unconfirmed reports Russian Paras were already taking airports (civilian) in Kiev etc. Seems strange though, but not completely unlikely.

Yes, the entire Ukrainian Air Force seems to be down, but i don't get it, why? Why are not they fighting back? It doesn't make any sense

I guess that's what you get for not informing not only the Civilians but also playing down the importance of Russian troops at Ukrainian border. That actor' s refusal to fully mobilize their armed forces (fully, all man/women etc) has probably not gone down well with a lot of Ukrainians. He was using strong words, like "We will beat Russia", etc. well.... Actors stay actors I guess, People alive around the '80's understand, I'll be referring especially to the so called war on drugs, the actor telling People all kinds of crap while a 3 letter agency flew coke in by the Millions.

It also needs to be over fast is my impression, I had said 72 hrs- 10 days, well....

China is preparing a surprise for Nato as well.

[Mashika]

Ukraine is the sacrificial pawn, nothing more nothing less

I don't believe this is 'sudden'

[Mashika]

Russian tanks are passing into Kharkov without any resistance -- says units stationed in villages along the way have offered "no resistance"

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)
Ukraine is the sacrificial pawn, nothing more nothing less

I don't believe this is 'sudden'

I agree, this has been planned very well and beyond, I do not expect Russia to just secure its borders and not being prepared for the fallout of things. Nato has expected this as well, problem is that the system we live under is so frikkin' corrupt that our so called leaders are only thinking about money, money and oooh yes, money and how to take it from People quickly so they can control us (Psychopath' s MO).

It's going to get really interesting.

And yes People dying is horrible, the problem however remains, look at how many have perished for greed and will in the coming years. I hope People in countries on our side will rise up and depose these feckers.

[Mashika]

If the Ukrainian army is deflecting to the Russian side, how is this going to work out when NATO comes trying to "fix things"?

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)
If the Ukrainian army is deflecting to the Russian side, how is this going to work out when NATO comes trying to "fix things"?

If Nato comes it'll be destroyed, I am fully convinced most of my scenario will come to pass (posted while ago), one can never be completely right, but still, since I posted it I updated it, some movements are happening, I might have been wrong about India though, I could see them joining the Block Alliance, they are a wildcard at the moment, same as Hungary, they would like some land back from Ukraine and they HATE Soros, well the Hungarian govt does.

Another thing is that the reluctance of Ukrainian troops fighting Russia might simply be because the Propaganda of the West and Ukraine has shown to be False.

[Mashika]

https://t.me/rentv_news/35342

Military expert Viktor Litovkin commented on the situation in the Donbas and said that the operation of forcing Ukraine to peace has begun.

"The power in the country, at least in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, will be taken by those people who will be on the side of good. Those who will respect the right of people to self-determination, to the right of people to own their own language, to the election of the authorities they trust and who will not mock them, which will allow them to teach children in their native language, to live peacefully, calmly, developing, building their destiny as they see fit," he said.

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Posted by 9ideon (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
If the Ukrainian army is deflecting to the Russian side, how is this going to work out when NATO comes trying to "fix things"?

If Nato comes it'll be destroyed, I am fully convinced most of my scenario will come to pass (posted while ago), one can never be completely right, but still, since I posted it I updated it, some movements are happening, I might have been wrong about India though, I could see them joining the Block Alliance, they are a wildcard at the moment, same as Hungary, they would like some land back from Ukraine and they HATE Soros, well the Hungarian govt does.

Another thing is that the reluctance of Ukrainian troops fighting Russia might simply be because the Propaganda of the West and Ukraine has shown to be False.

France is also a wildcard. It does look like not every country buys the propaganda, but some of them pretend to buy it while making their own plans to skip later in the near future

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)
https://t.me/rentv_news/35342

Military expert Viktor Litovkin commented on the situation in the Donbas and said that the operation of forcing Ukraine to peace has begun.

"The power in the country, at least in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, will be taken by those people who will be on the side of good. Those who will respect the right of people to self-determination, to the right of people to own their own language, to the election of the authorities they trust and who will not mock them, which will allow them to teach children in their native language, to live peacefully, calmly, developing, building their destiny as they see fit," he said.

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Posted by 9ideon (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
If the Ukrainian army is deflecting to the Russian side, how is this going to work out when NATO comes trying to "fix things"?

If Nato comes it'll be destroyed, I am fully convinced most of my scenario will come to pass (posted while ago), one can never be completely right, but still, since I posted it I updated it, some movements are happening, I might have been wrong about India though, I could see them joining the Block Alliance, they are a wildcard at the moment, same as Hungary, they would like some land back from Ukraine and they HATE Soros, well the Hungarian govt does.

Another thing is that the reluctance of Ukrainian troops fighting Russia might simply be because the Propaganda of the West and Ukraine has shown to be False.

France is also a wildcard. It does look like not every country buys the propaganda, but some of them pretend to buy it while making their own plans to skip later in the near future

Macron is married into the Rotschields. He'll stay the course.

Rutten, Trudeau, Macron, Biden, Johnson and a couple more are all in it together.