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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    The following two scientific papers may interest those curious as to the origins of the 'Jewish' people, which has been articulated well on this thread already, but it's good to have a resource to hand for further digestion and consideration:

    The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East 2001
    Almut Nebel,1 Dvora Filon,2 Bernd Brinkmann,4 Partha P. Majumder,5 Marina Faerman,3
    and Ariella Oppenheim1
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    Department of Hematology, Hebrew University–Hadassah Medical School, 2
    Hadassah University Hospital, and 3
    Laboratory of Biological
    Anthropology and Ancient DNA, Hebrew University–Hadassah School of Dental Medicine, Jerusalem; 4
    Institut fu¨r Rechtsmedizin, Westfa¨lische Wilhelms-Universita¨t, Mu¨nster, Germany; and 5
    Anthropology and Human Genetics Unit, Indian Statistical Institute, Calcutta


    Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...HGv69p1095.pdf

    ABSTRACT:
    A sample of 526 Y chromosomes representing six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev) was analyzed for 13 binary polymorphisms and six microsatellite loci. The investigation of the genetic relationship among three Jewish communities revealed that Kurdish and Sephardic Jews were indistinguishable from one another, whereas both differed slightly, yet significantly, from Ashkenazi Jews. The differences among Ashkenazim may be a result of low-level gene flow from European populations and/or genetic drift during isolation. Admixture between Kurdish Jews and their former Muslim host population in Kurdistan appeared to be negligible. In comparison with data available from other relevant populations in the region, Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors.

    The two haplogroups Eu 9 and Eu 10 constitute a major part of the Y chromosome pool in the analyzed sample. Our data suggest that Eu 9 originated in the northern part, and Eu 10 in the southern part of the Fertile Crescent. Genetic dating yielded estimates of the expansion of both haplogroups that cover the Neolithic period in the region. Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin differed from the other Middle Eastern populations studied here, mainly in specific high-frequency Eu 10 haplotypes not found in the non-Arab groups. These chromosomes might have been introduced through migrations from the Arabian Peninsula during the last two millennia. The present study contributes to the elucidation of the complex demographic history that shaped the present-day genetic landscape in the region.
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    The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses 2012
    Eran Elhaik

    Department of Mental Health, Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health 2
    McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine | *Corresponding author: E-mail: eelhaik@jhsph.edu.


    Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...pdf/evs119.pdf

    ABSTRACT
    The question of Jewish ancestry has been the subject of controversy for over two centuries and has yet to be resolved. The “Rhineland hypothesis” depicts Eastern European Jews as a “population isolate” that emerged from a small group of German Jews who migrated eastward and expanded rapidly. Alternatively, the “Khazarian hypothesis” suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Mesopotamian and Greco–Roman Jews continuously reinforced the Judaized empire until the 13th century. Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo–Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo–Khazars. Thus far, however, the Khazars’ contribution has been estimated only empirically, as the absence of genome-wide data from Caucasus populations precluded testing the Khazarian hypothesis. Recent sequencing of modern Caucasus populations prompted us to revisit the Khazarian hypothesis and compare it with the Rhineland hypothesis.

    We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. We further describe a major difference among Caucasus populations explained by the early presence of Judeans in the Southern and Central Caucasus. Our results have important implications for the demographic forces that shaped the genetic diversity in the Caucasus and for medical studies.
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    "But something quite unexpected had happened during this new round of press stories on al-Shifa that completely demolished the entire IDF story line: the IDF had gained control of the real Hamas command and control center in an area where the Hamas leadership had previously had their above-ground offices in the Al Atatra neighborhood, in the extreme northwest of Beit Lahiya city, 8.5km away from al-Shifa." - Gareth Porter, for Consortium News, November 23rd, 2023

    IDF Knew Real Hamas HQ While Lying About al-Shifa

    While telling the world that Hamas HQ was under al-Shifa Hospital, the IDF had already found the actual command center 8.5km away, reports Gareth Porter

    Source: Consortium News

    Although corporate news media have made it clear they don’t buy the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) claim that al-Shifa Hospital has been a cover for a Hamas command and control center and weapons armory, Western media have failed to report a much bigger story.

    The IDF and the Israeli government already knew when they launched their propaganda campaign about al-Shifa that Hamas had no military command and control facility hidden there because it had already found the complex kilometers away.

    As Consortium News reported last week, for 15 years the Israelis claimed Hamas was operating its primary command and control base from a tunnel underneath al-Shifa. After the Israeli bombing campaign against Gaza began in October, the Israeli military amplified that message to press its contention that by hiding the Hamas high command, al-Shifa Hospital had lost its immunity from military operations under the law of war, and could now legitimately be taken over by force.

    On Nov. 11, IDF spokesman Richard Hecht declared that al-Shifa was the “main hub of Hamas activity;” Newsweek reported the IDF regarded al-Shifa Hospital as “Hamas’s main command post” and the Times of Israel headlined “Hamas leaders again hiding under hospital”.

    The crescendo of Israeli propaganda about al-Shifa being a “human shield” for Hamas came with a long report published by The New York Times on Nov. 14. It was based on interviews with eight present and former intelligence and defense officials, describing a vast military command complex under al-Shifa with multiple levels.

    But something quite unexpected had happened during this new round of press stories on al-Shifa that completely demolished the entire IDF story line: the IDF had gained control of the real Hamas command and control center in an area where the Hamas leadership had previously had their above-ground offices in the Al Atatra neighborhood, in the extreme northwest of Beit Lahiya city, 8.5km away from al-Shifa.

    After that office building was demolished, the IDF discovered a major tunnel facility that was quite certain had been the central headquarters for the Hamas high command — the command and control center for the entire war.

    As the IDF leaked to The Jerusalem Post in a story published Nov. 14, the discovery was made “several days ago” of a tunnel with an elevator that reached thirty meters underground, compared with only five meters underground in other tunnels. Furthermore it had been equipped with oxygen, air conditioning and more advanced communications than seen anywhere else.

    Discovery of Real Hamas High Command Bunker



    Map shows route to al-Shifa Hospital from the real HQ. (Google Maps)

    That major IDF discovery, made on or before the Nov. 11 false stories about al-Shifa, threatened to undermine the Israeli political campaign to justify the IDF’s takeover and destruction of Gaza’s hospitals on the grounds that they were “human shields” for Hamas.

    Al-Shifa Hospital was the centerpiece of that campaign, based on the claim that it was hiding the high command of Hamas in a tunnel underneath it. Obviously the IDF and the extreme right-wing Israel government would want to stop all further publicity about the discovery of the actual Hamas high command’s underground base.

    No story about the discovery of the real Hamas high command bunker has been published inside Israel or elsewhere in the nearly two weeks since the detailed Jerusalem Post piece on Nov. 14. Somehow the Israeli government and media have been able to completely suppress the discovery of the Hamas headquarters, despite the fact that a number of foreign news media have offices in Tel Aviv and the story is still available on the internet.

    Instead of forcing a major climb-down by the IDF and the Netanyahu and the Biden administrations, the discovery of the real Hamas underground high-command center merely brought a slight revision in the wording used to refer to the issue.

    Sullivan Revises Wording of Issue

    That slight nuance was introduced not by the IDF, but by U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Nov. 13, when he said:

    “You can see even from open-source reporting that Hamas does use hospitals, along with a lot of other civilian facilities, for command and control, for storing weapons, for housing its fighters.”
    [emphasis added.]

    And a U.S. official familiar with “U.S. intelligence” who may also have been Sullivan, commented that Hamas had a “command node” under al-Shifa Hospital, using a term that Israeli officials apparently adopted in light of the new discovery of the actual high-command bunker.

    Thus the IDF arrived at al-Shifa late at night on Nov. 15, a day after The Jerusalem Post story, to begin the process of the Israeli takeover with a propaganda campaign aimed at convincing the American public in particular that Hamas had been inside the hospital.

    Several hours later that morning, in a seven-minute video inside the MRI building, IDF spokesperson Jonathan Conricus showed “grab bags” of military gear with AK-47s, grenades and uniforms neatly arranged on the floor. He insisted that Hamas had used the MRI room to store weapons and military gear. He also produced one computer, which he suggested had been found to contain “incriminating evidence” of military relevance.

    The most obvious problem with this seven-minute video, however, is that it showed nothing that could not have been easily brought into the building by the IDF itself. The more serious problem with the presentation is that it offered no plausible reason for Hamas to have hidden a few dozen small weapons and other military gear in the MRI room of a hospital and then supposedly having left them there when they departed.

    There was simply no need for the Hamas to store weapons there. After all, Hamas is estimated to have 150 to 300 miles of space for such storage in its vast tunnel network.

    Hagari Video Deleted


    IDF Telegram channel. (https://t.me/idfofficial/4666/Wikimedia Commons)

    A much bigger problem for IDF credibility on al-Shifa is that on Oct. 27, IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari presented an artist’s conception showing that Hamas had taken over parts of five different buildings at al-Shifa Hospital and was using all of them to plan and coordinate its military activities.

    He also showed a drawing of the structure of the main building, which he insisted was based on Israeli intelligence, showing that an underground floor of the main building was completely controlled by Hamas. He also insisted that there was an entrance within the hospital to that underground floor.

    The Hagari presentation came before the discovery of the actual Hamas high-command bunker underneath the above-ground Hamas high-command office in Beit Lahiya. The IDF has now eliminated the entire video of that long, detailed and illustrated presentation by Hagari from its website, because it would become a major embarrassment to the IDF once the full truth is known.

    In recent days, the IDF has fixed the world’s attention on a tunnel, the opening of which was discovered very close to the outer fence of al-Shifa Hospital grounds. The tunnel was found by the IDF to be 10m deep, compared with the 30m deep abandoned high command tunnel.

    On Nov. 21, the IDF announced it had breached the heavy blast door of the tunnel, meaning that it could now determine what lay on the other side, if anything. But given that the IDF has already discovered the real Hamas command bunker elsewhere — and the absence of evidence of a connection from hospital buildings to a tunnel — the IDF is unlikely to find such a connection from the tunnel to the hospital.

    The real story of the Israeli effort to sell its argument that Hamas took over al-Shifa and other hospitals to coordinate attacks is the massive deception aimed at U.S. media and public opinion in order to justifying Israel’s war of obliteration of the population of Gaza.

    That campaign of deceit has had the full-throated support of the Biden administration, which stands equally guilty of misleading the American people in its support for an illicit Israeli war.

    The failure of the Israeli propaganda campaign has been so decisive that most major media organizations have explicitly distanced themselves from the Israeli claims about al-Shifa, and several have shown either field reporters or analysts in the studio declaring explicitly that the evidence displayed by the Israelis had not proved their case at all.

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    Gareth Porter is an independent investigative journalist and historian writing on U.S. national security policy. His latest book, Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare, was published in February of 2014. Follow him on Twitter: @GarethPorter.

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    Related:
    Israeli Deceit & the Ongoing Battle of Shifa Hospital
    November 15th, 2023
    Consortium News: https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/1...hifa-hospital/

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    This information was as accurate as it could be in September of this year. The source is The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

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    Statistics on Palestinian minors in Israeli custody
    Source: https://www.btselem.org/statistics/minors_in_custody

    At the end of September 2023, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was holding 146 Palestinian minors in detention or in prison on what it defined “security” grounds. At that time, the IPS was also holding 34 Palestinian minors for being in Israel illegally.

    At the end of 2020, the IPS adopted a new policy and stopped providing B'Tselem with the requested figures. Instead, it has since published some data on the IPS website every three months. The first year this occurred (July 2020 through September 2021), the figures published were partial and therefore are not included here.

    In addition, at times, some Palestinians are briefly held in military facilities. The figures from the military are received with a significant time delay and provide no details regarding inmates’ legal standing.

    The following figures were provided or published by the military and the IPS, so responsibility for their accuracy lies with them.

    Graph 1 - * The diagram represents the number of Palestinian minors in custody on a given day, according to figures we received for that day, as detailed in the tables below. We do not have figures available for the overall number of minors in custody in a given month.

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    I've created a PDF stored here in the library for those of you interested in seeing these figures, as the tables of data won't be paste-able here
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    Memorandum of Edwin Montagu on the Anti-Semitism of the Present (British) Government - Submitted to the British Cabinet, August 1917

    I have chosen the above title for this memorandum, not in any hostile sense, not by any means as quarrelling with an anti-Semitic view which may be held by my colleagues, not with a desire to deny that anti-Semitism can be held by rational men, not even with a view to suggesting that the Government is deliberately anti-Semitic; but I wish to place on record my view that the policy of His Majesty's Government is anti-Semitic in result will prove a rallying ground for Anti-Semites in every country in the world.

    This view is prompted by the receipt yesterday of a correspondence between Lord Rothschild and Mr. Balfour.

    Lord Rothschild's letter is dated the 18th July and Mr. Balfour's answer is to be dated August 1917. I fear that my protest comes too late, and it may well be that the Government were practically committed when Lord Rothschild wrote and before I became a member of the Government, for there has obviously been some correspondence or conversation before this letter. But I do feel that as the one Jewish Minister in the Government I may be allowed by my colleagues an opportunity of expressing views which may be peculiar to myself, but which I hold very strongly and which I must ask permission to express when opportunity affords.

    I believe most firmly that this war has been a death-blow to Internationalism, and that it has proved an opportunity for a renewal of the slackening sense of Nationality, for it is has not only been tacitly agreed by most statesmen in most countries that the redistribution of territory resulting from the war should be more or less on national grounds, but we have learned to realise that our country stands for principles, for aims, for civilisation which no other country stands for in the same degree, and that in the future, whatever may have been the case in the past, we must live and fight in peace and in war for those aims and aspirations, and so equip and regulate our lives and industries as to be ready whenever and if ever we are challenged. To take one instance, the science of Political Economy, which in its purity knows no Nationalism, will hereafter be tempered and viewed in the light of this national need of defence and security. The war has indeed justified patriotism as the prime motive of political thought.

    It is in this atmosphere that the Government proposes to endorse the formation of a new nation with a new home in Palestine. This nation will presumably be formed of Jewish Russians, Jewish Englishmen, Jewish Roumanians, Jewish Bulgarians, and Jewish citizens of all nations - survivors or relations of those who have fought or laid down their lives for the different countries which I have mentioned, at a time when the three years that they have lived through have united their outlook and thought more closely than ever with the countries of which they are citizens.

    Zionism has always seemed to me to be a mischievous political creed, untenable by any patriotic citizen of the United Kingdom. If a Jewish Englishman sets his eyes on The Mount of Olives and longs for the day when he will shake British soil from his shoes and go back to agricultural pursuits in Palestine, he has always seemed to me to have acknowledged aims inconsistent with British citizenship and to have admitted that he is unfit for a share in public life in Great Britain, or to be treated as an Englishman. I have always understood that those who indulged in this creed were largely animated by the restrictions upon and refusal of liberty to Jews in Russia. But at the very time when these Jews have been acknowledged as Jewish Russians and given all liberties, it seems to be inconceivable that Zionism should be officially recognised by the British Government, and that Mr. Balfour should be authorized to say that Palestine was to be reconstituted as the "national home of the Jewish people". I do not know what this involves, but I assume that it means that Mahommedans and Christians are to make way for the Jews and that the Jews should be put in all positions of preference and should be peculiarly associated with Palestine in the same way that England is with the English or France with the French, that Turks and other Mahommedans in Palestine will be regarded as foreigners, just in the same way as Jews will hereafter be treated as foreigners in every country but Palestine. Perhaps also citizenship must be granted only as a result of a religious test.

    I lay down with emphasis four principles:
    I assert that there is not a Jewish nation. The members of my family, for instance, who have been in this country for generations, have no sort or kind of community of view or of desire with any Jewish family in any other country beyond the fact that they profess to a greater or less degree the same religion. It is no more true to say that a Jewish Englishman and a Jewish Moor are of the same nation than it is to say that a Christian Englishman and a Christian Frenchman are of the same nation: of the same race, perhaps, traced back through the centuries - through centuries of the history of a peculiarly adaptable race. The Prime Minister and M. Briand are, I suppose, related through the ages, one as a Welshman and the other as a Breton, but they certainly do not belong to the same nation.

    When the Jews are told that Palestine is their national home, every country will immediately desire to get rid of its Jewish citizens, and you will find a population in Palestine driving out its present inhabitants, taking all the best in the country, drawn from all quarters of the globe, speaking every language on the face of the earth, and incapable of communicating with one another except by means of an interpreter. I have always understood that this was the consequence of the building of the Tower of Babel, if ever it was built, and I certainly do not dissent from the view, commonly held, as I have always understood, by the Jews before Zionism was invented, that to bring the Jews back to form a nation in the country from which they were dispersed would require Divine leadership. I have never heard it suggested, even by their most fervent admirers, that either Mr. Balfour or Lord Rothschild would prove to be the Messiah.

    I claim that the lives that British Jews have led, that the aims that they have had before them, that the part that they have played in our public life and our public institutions, have entitled them to be regarded, not as British Jews, but as Jewish Britons. I would willingly disfranchise every Zionist. I would be almost tempted to proscribe the Zionist organisation as illegal and against the national interest. But I would ask of a British Government sufficient tolerance to refuse a conclusion which makes aliens and foreigners by implication, if not at once by law, of all their Jewish fellow-citizens.

    I deny that Palestine is to-day associated with the Jews or properly to be regarded as a fit place for them to live in. The Ten Commandments were delivered to the Jews on Sinai. It is quite true that Palestine plays a large part in Jewish history, but so it does in modern Mahommendan history, and, after the time of the Jews, surely it plays a larger part than any other country in Christian history. The Temple may have been in Palestine, but so was the Sermon on the Mount and the Crucifixion. I would not deny to Jews in Palestine equal rights to colonisation with those who profess other religions, but a religious test of citizenship seems to me to be the only admitted by those who take a bigoted and narrow view of one particular epoch of the history of Palestine, and claim for the Jews a position to which they are not entitled.

    If my memory serves me right, there are three times as many Jews in the world as could possible get into Palestine if you drove out all the population that remains there now. So that only one-third will get back at the most, and what will happen to the remainder?

    I can easily understand the editors of the Morning Post and of the New Witness being Zionists, and I am not in the least surprised that the non-Jews of England may welcome this policy. I have always recognised the unpopularity, much greater than some people think, of my community. We have obtained a far greater share of this country's goods and opportunities than we are numerically entitled to. We reach on the whole maturity earlier, and therefore with people of our own age we compete unfairly. Many of us have been exclusive in our friendships and intolerant in our attitude, and I can easily understand that many a non-Jew in England wants to get rid of us. But just as there is no community of thought and mode of life among Christian Englishmen, so there is not among Jewish Englishmen. More and more we are educated in public schools and at the Universities, and take our part in the politics, in the Army, in the Civil Service, of our country.
    And I am glad to think that the prejudices against inter-marriage are breaking down. But when the Jew has a national home, surely it follows that the impetus to deprive us of the rights of British citizenship must be enormously increased. Palestine will become the world's Ghetto. Why should the Russian give the Jew equal rights? His national home is Palestine. Why does Lord Rothschild attach so much importance to the difference between British and foreign Jews? All Jews will be foreign Jews, inhabitants of the great country of Palestine.

    I do not know how the fortunate third will be chosen, but the Jew will have the choice, whatever country he belongs to, whatever country he loves, whatever country he regards himself as an integral part of, between going to live with people who are foreigners to him, but to whom his Christian fellow-countrymen have told him he shall belong, and of remaining as an unwelcome guest in the country that he thought he belonged to.

    I am not surprised that the Government should take this step after the formation of a Jewish Regiment, and I am waiting to learn that my brother, who has been wounded in the Naval Division, or my nephew, who is in the Grenadier Guards, will be forced by public opinion or by Army regulations to become an officer in a regiment which will mainly be composed of people who will not understand the only language which he speaks - English. I can well understand that when it was decided, and quite rightly, to force foreign Jews in this country to serve in the Army, it was difficult to put them in British regiments because of the language difficulty, but that was because they were foreigners, and not because they were Jews, and a Foreign Legion would seem to me to have been the right thing to establish. A Jewish Legion makes the position of Jews in other regiments more difficult and forces a nationality upon people who have nothing in common.

    I feel that the Government are asked to be the instrument for carrying out the wishes of a Zionist organisation largely run, as my information goes, at any rate in the past, by men of enemy descent or birth, and by this means have dealt a severe blow to the liberties, position and opportunities of service of their Jewish fellow-countrymen.

    I would say to Lord Rothschild that the Government will be prepared to do everything in their power to obtain for Jews in Palestine complete liberty of settlement and life on an equality with the inhabitants of that country who profess other religious beliefs. I would ask that the Government should go no further.

    E.S.M.

    23 August 1917

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    A ghastly business
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    Interestingly this account has been suspended. Unfortunately I didn't get to see what was linked here
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    🇺🇲🇮🇱🇵🇸Hakima Asmaa, a medic in the Indonesian hospital of Beit Lahia, recounted how Israeli soldiers raided the hospital last night just hours before a four-day truce would go into effect. She said the soldiers beat hospital staff, shot three people and took three others. During the raid, the Israeli troops killed one woman and injured several others:

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    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...in-coming-days

    Biden expects more captives to be released in coming days

    US President Joe Biden stated on Friday that the Palestinian resistance group Hamas is expected to release additional Israeli captives in the coming days.

    "As I said, today's releases are the start of a process, we expect more hostages to be released tomorrow, more the day after, and more the day after that," Biden said.

    "We also remember all those who are still being held and renew our commitment to work for their release as well," Biden said during a press conference.

    Biden further emphasized the necessity for renewed efforts to address the issue through the implementation of a so-called "two-state solution."

    When asked if there are chances for the temporary ceasefire to be extended, Biden responded in the affirmative.

    Temporary truce kicks off

    Earlier today, the temporary truce between the Israeli occupation and the resistance came into effect at 7 am, following an Israeli aggression that has persisted for 47 days, leaving thousands injured and killed.

    The truce will last for four days subject to potential extension. The truce entails the liberation of a number of imprisoned Palestinian women and minors (under the age of 19) from Israeli occupation jails and the admission of relief aid and fuel in the besieged Gaza Strip.

    In the last hours before the truce came into effect, the Israeli occupation launched intense airstrikes against the northern, central, and southern Gaza Strip, targeting schools (that housed displaced individuals), hospitals, and houses, and resulting in dozens of casualties.

    Read more: US, 'Israel' had no political, military achievements: Amir-Abdollahian

    On another note, 150 aid trucks were reported to have entered the besieged Gaza Strip, including four trucks loaded with fuel through the Rafah crossing, as reported by Al Mayadeen's correspondent.

    Our correspondent stated that the filling of fuel tanks transported by trucks from Egyptian territories through the Rafah crossing is still ongoing, and the distribution will take place at a later time.

    UNRWA hampers aid delivery to North

    However, a mere three trucks arrived to the most war-stricken parts of Gaza in the north.

    The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) is hampering the delivery of aid trucks to the northern Gaza Strip, sources told Al Mayadeen.

    UNRWA has proven time and again that it is colluding with the Israeli policy of ethnic cleansing the northern part of Gaza during the period of the aggression on the Strip, as the head of the Government Media Office Salamah Maarouf said on October 31.

    Maarouf said that UNRWA and its officials are not living up to their obligations and that they are conspiring with "Israel" which seeks to forcibly displace Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

    On his part, the spokesperson for the Ministry of Health, Ashraf al-Qudra, said that the UN agency has turned its back on the residents of the Gaza Strip in general, leaving children unvaccinated, and terminally ill individuals without medication, as well as neglecting the needs o hospitals all over the Gaza Strip.

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    'Israel' says Spain, Belgium 'supporting terrorism' over Gaza remarks

    Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen, following instructions from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has summoned the ambassadors of Belgium and Spain for a "harsh reprimanding conversation," after the prime ministers of the two European countries called on the entity to stop the killing of Palestinian civilians in Gaza and approve a complete ceasefire rather than a temporary truce.

    A 4-day pause agreement was reached this week following 47 days of a brutal Israeli war on Gaza, which was accompanied by a near-complete blockade, a full siege on the residents, and over 1,300 massacres during the short period.

    The two premiers, Belgium's Alexander De Croo and Spain's Pedro Sanchez made a trip to the Israeli entity on Thursday, where they met Netanyahu and Cohen among other officials to discuss the war on Gaza.

    Read more: One hour after taking effect, Israeli forces violate temporary truce

    Temporary truce insufficient

    Following their meetings, they told reporters that: "Israel needs to do much more to avoid civilian casualties."

    De Croo added that his talks with Netanyahu were "open" but confrontational.

    "We are not here to exchange good news," he said, adding that this is a vital moment and "we do not want another 10,000 deaths."

    Read more: Ansar Allah: 'Israel' yielded to truce on the terms of the Resistance

    The current pause is insufficient and more aid needs to enter Gaza, the Belgium prime minister added, Meanwhile the Israeli PM chose not to take questions from journalists.

    Spain, Belgium "supporting terrorism"

    Following their trip to "Tel Aviv," the prime ministers landed in Cairo where they met with the Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi. Before making their way to the Rafa Crossing.

    During a joint press conference from the border crossing, they welcomed the temporary pause but called for an end to the horrific Israeli war on Gaza.

    In the first response to their remarks from Rafah, the Israeli foreign minister angrily accused them of "supporting terrorism" and a "murderous organization," also sounding Netanyahu's objection.

    Read more: US fears journalists enter Gaza during truce, expose Israeli crimes

    Cohen also challenged calls for a permanent halt of aggression, Cohen declared: "We will resume fighting after the ceasefire until the elimination of Hamas rule in the Gaza Strip and the release of all the abductees."

    Spain might recognize Palestinian state regardless of EU

    The most notable comment came from Sanchez, who announced that Madrid might decide to "recognize the state of Palestine if the European Union does not," while describing the situation in the Strip as "the worst humanitarian disaster in modern times."

    "The time has come for the international community, and especially European countries, to take a decision on the recognition of the Palestinian state," he said. "Of course, if this doesn't happen Spain will make its own decisions," he added.

    Read more: Gaza 'most dangerous place for children' despite truce: UNICEF Chief

    Addressing the Israeli war on the Strip, Sanches said: “What is happening is a disaster, and we have dealt with it effectively, managing to stop the firing, leading to the arrival of aid, and we thank President Sisi for these achievements, as he helped us deliver humanitarian and medical assistance to Gaza,” he told reporters.

    For his part, Belgium's Prime Minister Alexander De Croo warned that the destruction of Gaza by Israelis is unacceptable, stressing that the 4-day truce must turn into a permanent ceasefire.

    “We don't have time to waste; we must stand up and help,” De Croo said, expressing his gratitude to the leadership of Egypt for their significant assistance in sending medical aid and assistance of all kinds.

    Into effect

    Israeli media outlets reported on Friday that the Israeli captives crossed the Rafah Crossing into Egypt, after being received earlier by the Red Crescent at the Khan Yunis Hospital in the Gaza Strip, which transferred them to the Palestinian-Egyptian borders.

    According to news outlets, 24 captives were released, and "all of them are in relatively good condition."

    The deal, which came into effect at 7 am on Friday and has the potential to be extended, achieved the liberation of 150 Palestinian women and children, in return for the release of 50 captives between women and others under the age of nineteen. The exchange will take place over the course of the four days of the temporary truce

    The Resistance was also able to impose a condition that the Israelis would put to a complete halt the flight of hostile aircraft over the southern Gaza Strip, and a cessation of flights for six hours daily, from 10 AM to 4 PM, over Gaza City and the northern part of the Strip. Additionally, 200 aid trucks and 4 trucks of fuel and cooking oil will enter Gaza on a daily basis, and will not be restricted to a specific area.

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    10 Thais and 1 Filipino were also released

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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...ased-on-friday

    Who are the Palestinian prisoners Israel released on Friday?
    Thirty-nine Palestinian women and children are expected to be released from Israeli jails on Friday during a pause in fighting.

    After seven weeks of war, the four-day truce between Israel and Hamas began on Friday morning. Under this truce, 39 Palestinian women and children were released on Friday.

    Here is what’s known about those released and those who might be released in the coming days.

    Who were the prisoners released on Friday?

    Of the 39 Palestinians released by Israel, 17 are minors.

    They are:

    Yousef Mohammad Mustafa Ata from Ramallah
    Qusai Hani Ali Ahmad from Bethlehem
    Jibreel Ghassan Ismail Jibreel from Qalqilya
    Mohammad Ahmad Suleiman Abu Rajab from al-Khalil
    Ahmad Nu’man Ahmad Abu Na’im from Ramallah
    Baraa Bilal Mahmoud Rabee from al-Khalil
    Aban Iyad Mohammad Said Hammad from Qalqilya
    Moataz Hatem Moussa Abu Aram from al-Khalil
    Iyad Abdul Qader Mohammad Khateeb from Jerusalem
    Hazma Laith Khalil Othman Othman from Ramallah
    Mohammad Mahmoud Ayoub Dar Darwish from Ramallah
    Jamal Khalil Jamal Barahmeh from Areeha
    Jamal Yousef Jamal Abu Hamdan from Nablus
    Mohammad Anis Saleem Tarabi from Nablus
    Abdul Rahman Abdul Rahman Suleiman Rizq from Jerusalem
    Zeina Raed Abdou from Jerusalem
    Noor Mohammad Hafez al-Tahir from Nablus
    Zeina and Noor are girls, the others are boys.

    The remaining 22 of the Palestinians released on Friday are women. They are:

    Rawan Nafez Mohammad Abu Matar from Ramallah
    Marah Joudat Moussa Bakeer from Jerusalem
    Malak Mohammad Yousef Suleiman from Jerusalem
    Amani Khaled Nu’man Hasheem from Jerusalem
    Nihaya Khader Hussein Sawan from Jerusalem
    Fayrouz Fayez Mahmoud al-Baw from Jerusalem
    Tahreer Adnan Mohammad Abu Suriya from Nablus
    Falasteen Fareed Abdul Latif Najm from Nablus
    Walaa Khaled Fawzi Tanja from Tulkarem
    Maryam Khaled Abdul Majid Arafat from Nablus
    Asil Muneer Ibrahim al-Tayti from Nablus
    Azhar Thaer Bakr Assaf from Jerusalem
    Raghd Nashat Salah al-Fanni from Tulkarem
    Fatima Nu’man Ali Badr from Jerusalem
    Rawda Moussa Abdul Qader Abu Ujaima from Bethlehem
    Sara Ayman Abdul Aziz Abdullah al-Suweisa from Nablus
    Fatima Ismail Abdul Rahman Shahin from Bethlehem
    Samira Abdul Harbawi from Jerusalem
    Samah Bilal Abdul Rahman Souf from Qalqilya
    Fatima Bakr Moussa Abu Shalal from Nablus
    Hanan Saleh Abdullah al-Barghouthi from Ramallah
    Fatima Nasr Mohammad Amarnah from Jenin
    When and how were they released?

    They were transferred from Israeli prisons to the Israel-controlled Ofer prison in the occupied West Bank in the early evening.

    At 8pm local time (18:00 GMT), they were released from Ofer in International Committee of the Red Cross buses.

    Who might be released next?

    Israel has agreed to release 150 Palestinian women and children prisoners from its jails in exchange for Hamas releasing 50 of the women and children taken captive during the October 7 attack.

    But the Israeli Ministry of Justice presented a list of 300 Palestinian prisoners who it is considering for release. It is unclear whether this might be an offer for a potential second phase of exchanges since the deal allows for the extension of a pause in fighting by one day for every 10 additional captives Hamas releases.

    The list of 300 comprises 33 women. The majority of the rest of the names are of boys aged 16-18. However, there are also boys as young as 14 on the list.

    Most of the prisoners on the list were arrested between 2021 and 2023. The prisoners arrested in 2023 were taken before October 7.

    However, it also includes individuals like Shorouq Dwayyat, who was arrested in 2015 and is serving the ninth year of her 16-year sentence. Dwayyat is currently serving the longest sentence among Palestinian female prisoners in Israeli jails.

    She was 18 when she was arrested and held in the Damon prison in Haifa, accused of stabbing an Israeli settler with a knife. Her family, anxiously anticipating her release, denies these accusations. “Shorouq is delicate and cannot harm an animal,” her father, Salah Dwayyat, told Al Jazeera at the time.

    Why are they in prison?

    Like Dwayyat, many other prisoners have been convicted of crimes including carrying and manufacturing knives and daggers. Other common offences detailed in Israel’s list include:

    threatening security
    illegally entering Israel without a permit
    throwing stones
    supporting terrorism
    associating with hostile/unknown organisations.
    “The main alleged crime for these detentions is stone-throwing, which can carry a 20-year sentence in prison for Palestinian children,” said a report published in July by children’s rights organisation, Save the Children.

    Israeli publication Haaretz reported that Israel has refused to release people convicted of murder but those convicted of attempted murder could be released.

    Where will the Palestinian prisoners go after their release?

    Under the deal, Palestinian prisoners will be taken from two Israeli prisons southeast of Haifa, namely Damon and Megiddo. They will then be taken to Israel’s military Ofer prison.

    There, they will be handed over to the International Committee of the Red Cross and after they are received, “the ones from Jerusalem will go to Jerusalem, and the ones from the West Bank will gather in Betunia municipal council where their families will be waiting”, added Fares.

    Israel has barred celebrations in Palestinian communities over the return of prisoners.

    How many Palestinian prisoners are in Israeli jails?

    There are 19 prisons within Israel and one inside the occupied West Bank holding Palestinian prisoners.

    Before October 7, there were about 5,200 Palestinians in Israeli custody. However, following the Hamas attack of October 7, the number of Palestinians arrested skyrocketed and 3,000 more were arrested.

    Of those arrested after October 7, 37 are journalists. Palestinian prisoner support and human rights association Addameer reported that most of these journalists were subjected to administrative detention, which means they are held indefinitely behind bars without facing trial or charges.

    Addameer also reported that the detainees are subjected to physical violence and medical negligence in prisons. The report cited an example of a prisoner who suffers from blood disease and asthma. The prisoner was assaulted, resulting in wounds and bruises on his head and eyes. The association reported that this prisoner has lost 10kg since his arrest.

    Some Palestinian prisoners have been in Israeli jails for more than 30 years, since before the Oslo Accords were signed. The term “deans of prisoners” is sometimes locally used to refer to them, reported Samidoun, an international Palestinian prisoner solidarity network.

    At least 700 Palestinian children under the age of 18 from the occupied West Bank are prosecuted every year through Israeli military courts after being arrested, interrogated and detained by the Israeli army.

    Children in Israeli detention often suffer physical, psychological and sexual abuse, and some are deprived of food, water and sleep, according to Save the Children.

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    Hamas proved to still be in control after 49 days: Israeli media

    Anyone who mourned Hamas simply had to see this day; after 49 days of fighting "Hamas has proven that it remains strong and in control of Gaza," Israeli media said on Friday.

    Al-Qassam Brigades succeeded in imposing a ceasefire in the south and north of the Gaza Strip, Israeli media said, indicating that Hamas' armed wing knew how and when to bring the detainees to the Khan Yunis Hospital.

    Hamas did not kneel in the face of the Israeli occupation forces' onslaught, Israeli media said. "This reality is still very far-fetched, unfortunately."

    All Israeli detainees in Gaza were neglected by the Israeli government, Channel 12 said, highlighting that they were betrayed and they were threatening another betrayal if not everything possible is done in order to release the remainder of the captives.

    "If Hamas succeeds in stopping the fighting from continuing, then it has officially emerged victorious," Israeli reserve general Israel Ziv declared.

    Israeli media reported earlier in the day that tens of thousands of Palestinians have been since the morning, the time when the ceasefire deal went into effect, returning to the northern Gaza Strip from the south.

    Threats are not enough

    The media added that the Israeli occupation forces will take strict measures to prevent the Palestinians from moving between the south and north of the Gaza Strip.

    In response, Israeli Cabinet member Israel Katz told Channel 12 that "the army is trying to prevent tens of thousands of Palestinians from returning to the northern Gaza Strip," stating that "the situation in the north will not return to what it was before."

    Israeli Security Minister Yoav Galant reiterated that "the ceasefire is a short truce, and the Israeli army will return with full force at its end."

    Despite the threats from the Israeli occupation forces, which deployed tanks and military vehicles in the north and had targeted the displaced who left the northern Gaza Strip for the south, those same displaced people, upon the implementation of the ceasefire in the early hours of Friday, began to return to the North of Gaza. They flocked to their homes, hospitals, and cemeteries in a blatant challenge to the Israeli occupation.

    The Israeli occupation is "threatening to open fire on anyone that approaches its forces stationed in the city of Beit Hanoun," an Al Mayadeen correspondent reported.

    "The residents have started to return to Beit Hanoun with the withdrawal of occupation forces and the beginning of the ceasefire," he added, noting that the occupation forces, with their soldiers stationed in the town, prevent residents from advancing.

    Residents of Beit Hanoun confirmed that the occupation forces are opening fire at those who try to pass a certain point in Beit Hanoun while our correspondent explained that residents insist on inspecting their properties regardless of the threats being made by the Israeli occupation forces.

    Some residents on Salah al-Din Street in the central Gaza Strip stated that the occupation was opening fire toward gatherings of residents who came out to inspect their properties, with its tanks positioned in front of Kuwait Square.

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    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1728205608640565401




    https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1728179282080383316



    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/i...=ap_i6xt9ac149

    Israel-Palestine war: Is the war in Gaza changing regional politics?

    The ongoing Israel-Palestine war has raised serious questions about the future of the Middle East and how it interacts with global powers.

    With the US and a number of western states throwing their unconditional support behind Israel, some Arab countries have found themselves trying to safeguard their interests while appeasing public anger.

    On Saturday, Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal Bin Farhan announced that a delegation from the Joint Arab-Islamic Extraordinary Summit, which took place in Riyadh earlier this month, will be going to several world capitals to promote an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

    The first destination of that trip was China, followed by Russia, raising questions on the possibility of a shift amongst Arab states towards the East.

    Several powerful Arab states have been playing careful diplomatic games ever since the eruption of the latest war.

    The latter began when a Hamas-led assault on southern Israel killed more than 1,100 Israelis on 7 October. Israel’s relentless retaliatory bombing of Gaza, along with its ground incursion, has killed over 14,500 Palestinians and destroyed much of the enclave's civilian infrastructure.

    While all Arab countries have released statements condemning Israel’s war in Gaza, countries that have signed recent peace treaties with Israel seem largely concerned with securing their new relations with the state.

    Starting in 2020, the US-brokered Abraham Accords saw Israel establish diplomatic ties with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco. Prior to 7 October, Saudi Arabia was seen as the next, and arguably most significant state to normalise relations.

    “Saudi Arabia has taken a relatively strong stance, by suspending its normalisation talks with Israel,” Elham Fakhro, associate fellow at Chatham House’s Middle East and North Africa programme, told Middle East Eye.

    “But the Arab states that already have relations with Israel have mostly refused to jeopardise these relations.”

    On 2 November, Bahrain’s parliament said in a statement that Manama had recalled its ambassador to Israel, with other media reports refuting the claim, and without any comment from the country’s foreign ministry.
    No similar moves have been seen from other Abraham Accords signatories. Tariq Kenney-Shawa, US policy fellow at Palestinian policy network Al-Shabaka, says this relative inaction is not too surprising to Palestinians.

    “Most Palestinians are profoundly disappointed by the response, or lack thereof, of Arab leaders across the region,” he told MEE. “Ultimately, Palestinians know the Arab people, the Arab streets, deeply support their cause, but they feel abandoned by leaders who talk the talk, but never walk the walk.”

    'A far cry from historic unity'

    Relative pressure was seen coming from Egypt and Jordan, known as the old normalisation regimes, as they signed peace treaties with Israel decades before the Abraham Accords.

    Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi made it clear that he strongly opposes any plans to displace Gaza’s population to Egypt’s Sinai.

    However Cairo faces criticism over its reluctance to open the Rafah crossing with Gaza more actively.

    Jordan, on the other hand, expelled the Israeli ambassador in Amman, and recalled its own. It also pulled out of an energy-for-water deal with Israel amid domestic pressure.

    Both these states have actively pursued and arrested citizens protesting in solidarity with Gaza, while trying to appease public anger through more robust stances against Israel.

    “Arab leaders like Sisi, King Abdullah, and Mohammad Bin Salman do have leverage they can use to pressure Israel, such as threatening to withdraw from normalisation agreements or negotiations,” said Kenney-Shawa.

    He adds that these states still prefer to safeguard the support they receive from western nations, along with the security and economic agreements they benefit from.

    Fakhro agrees, saying Arab states remain divided over their preferred course of action.

    “It is definitely a far cry from historic unity on the matter, during the oil embargo of 1973 for example,” she said.

    During the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, in response to western states’ support for Israel, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), led by then-Saudi King Faisal, implemented an oil embargo on several western countries including the US, the Netherlands, Rhodesia, amongst others.

    The price of a single oil barrel quadrupled during the embargo, and the US saw nationwide fuel shortages.

    Now, as Israel’s war in Gaza continues with just a temporary Qatar-brokered truce, unified Arab stances have stuck to demanding a ceasefire, with Saudi Arabia calling on states to stop exporting weapons to Israel.

    However, experts believe continued American support for its ally may eventually have an impact on even its closest Arab leaders.

    According to Kenney-Shawa, this has the potential to slightly widen the global East-West divide.

    “The Arab people and their leaders are witnessing how eagerly the US supports the wholesale murder of fellow Arabs and this will push them towards deepening relationships with other powers such as China,” he said.

    While China is by no means expected to replace the US in the region, its relatively constructive approach to Middle Eastern conflicts, bolstered by its mediation of Saudi-Iranian reconciliation, could see it play a more relevant role.

    Fakhro believes “the Gulf States do see countries like Russia and China as useful partners.

    “Their turn East is part of a broader effort to diversify their relationships beyond the United States, at a time when Washington has been clear about its intent to draw down from the region,” she added.

    Having US rivals as alternative partners could also allow Gulf states to have more leverage in Washington, should the latter move in an undesired direction.

    These positions remain, however, out of self-interest rather than genuine support for the Palestinian cause.

    Kenney-Shawa argues that this is the main factor determining official Arab attitudes towards Israel and Palestine.

    “As long as the Arab world is run by self-interested autocrats bent on preserving their own power at whatever the cost, Palestinians should not expect them to mount serious pressure against Israel,” he said.

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    "Israeli snipers opening fire, firing into the crowd, which was filled with men, but also women & children, families"

    Alex Crawford on Israeli soldiers shooting Palestinians who were making their way back to the north of Gaza to look for family members

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)


    Memorandum of Edwin Montagu on the Anti-Semitism of the Present (British) Government - Submitted to the British Cabinet, August 1917
    This is quite interesting, in that Edwin Montagu (1879 – 1924), one of the first Jewish members of Parliament, labels Zionism as "anti-semitic", because it equates religion with nationalism and statehood, and because it seeks to remove Jews from the mainstream of society in most European nations.

    Of course, nowadays, if you don't favor Zionism or show too much sympathy for the Palestinians, there are people who will try to label you as an "anti-Semite", even if you are Jewish.
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    • Douglas Macgregor : Israel Has Crossed The Muslim Red Line:
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    We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry.


    We found this single-author biased study:


    Quote Though intermittently evoked by several scholars since that time, the Khazar-Ashkenazi hypothesis came to the attention of a much wider public with the publication of Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe in 1976. It has been revived recently by geneticist Eran Elhaik, who in 2013 conducted a study aiming to vindicate it.


    which is updated on NIH by a 25-author multi-national genetic study of 1,774 samples from 106 Jewish and non-Jewish populations:


    Quote No evidence from genome-wide data of a Khazar origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

    It has been claimed, however, through a reanalysis of some of our data, that a large part of the ancestry of the Ashkenazi population originates with the Khazars, a Turkic-speaking group that lived to the north of the Caucasus region ~1,000 years ago. Because the Khazar population has left no obvious modern descendants that could enable a clear test for a contribution to Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, the Khazar hypothesis has been difficult to examine using genetics.

    Employing a variety of standard techniques for the analysis of population-genetic structure, we found that Ashkenazi Jews share the greatest genetic ancestry with other Jewish populations and, among non-Jewish populations, with groups from Europe and the Middle East. No particular similarity of Ashkenazi Jews to populations from the Caucasus is evident, particularly populations that most closely represent the Khazar region. Thus, analysis of Ashkenazi Jews together with a large sample from the region of the Khazar Khaganate corroborates the earlier results that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry primarily from populations of the Middle East and Europe, that they possess considerable shared ancestry with other Jewish populations, and that there is no indication of a significant genetic contribution either from within or from north of the Caucasus region.
    Wayne State University Press, Detroit, Michigan


    That is more work done by not one individual that should remove Khazar Ashkenazi from the vocabulary.

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