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    • BREAKING: It’s Not “Biden” But BILDERBERG GROUP Who Will Decide When NATO Goes To War With Russia!:

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    U.S. President Joe Biden (Imposter) “has authorized” Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range ATACMS missiles for strikes inside Russia, marking a significant shift in U.S. policy and a major escalation in the war with Russia.

    But is old sleepy Joe really pulling the strings on this one or is there something else happening behind the scenes?

    In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth covers the breaking news that the formal Secretary General of NATO Jens Stoltenberg, will become the new co-chair of the Bilderberg Group where in 2002 he learned what needed to happen in order to get the western world behind the invasion of Iraq

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    I was born too late to live through the 60s and 70s Cold War stuff but to everyone who lived through it - did it feel anything like this current moment? I have butterflies in my stomach and I can't tell if I'm just being dramatic.

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    I was born too late to live through the 60s and 70s Cold War stuff but to everyone who lived through it - did it feel anything like this current moment? I have butterflies in my stomach and I can't tell if I'm just being dramatic.
    Not sure about "the current moment", but the climate of those times was such that the possibility of nuclear war was taken VERY seriously — by the media, both governments, and the entire populace. The overriding unquestioned view was that you just didn't mess with that.

    That generation truly understood the issues. Now, we no longer seem to.

    Nuclear war films and documentaries were shown frequently then, the UK's unforgettable and traumatic The War Game and (even more so) Threads making the US's The Day After look like a kindergarten party. (Threads might be the most terrible thing ever to have been shown on film. Many viewers reported having nightmares for literally weeks on end.)

    None of these kinds of docudrama are being aired now. My only guess at why is that the media platforms judge that the viewers might not be that interested.

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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    https://www.rt.com/news/607899-biden...tional-massie/

    Biden committing ‘unconstitutional аct of war’ – US lawmaker
    Allowing Ukraine use American missiles against Russia is an impeachable act, Congressman Thomas Massie has claimed

    President Joe Biden has violated the US Constitution and ought to be impeached for permitting Ukraine to fire American-supplied long-range missiles into Russia, Congressman Thomas Massie has said.

    Multiple US outlets reported over the weekend that Biden had lifted the restrictions on Kiev’s use of US-supplied rockets. While the White House has neither confirmed nor denied the news officially, a volley of missiles was fired at Russia’s Bryansk Region early on Tuesday.

    “By authorizing long range missiles to strike inside Russia, Biden is committing an unconstitutional Act of War that endangers the lives of all US citizens,” Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, posted on X (formerly Twitter) on Monday.

    “This is an impeachable offense, but the reality is he’s an emasculated puppet of a deep state,” he added.

    According to anonymous officials who spoke to the media, the US permission would “mostly” apply to the Kursk Region of Russia, which Ukraine invaded in August. The decision was reportedly triggered by the Ukrainian claim that 10,000 North Korean soldiers have been deployed to Kursk to aid the Russian troops.
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    Biden is senile in end stadium... he can´t decide stay in place go to left or right or anything at all !

    The REAL problem is who or what is behind moving the strings! and whoever or what ever is don't have any good vibes what so ever! and that is chilling for me ...

    Say he is impeached, then what? the kamala come or worse? everything in this "Administration" is dark as it gets , dark vibes... and whatever that "it" is , is longing for WAR!

    Before the new Admin come there is time for 3,4,and 5 WW ! or maybe that's the plan : NO new Admin at all! interesting time ,if we survive until February! Creator help us...

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    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)
    I was born too late to live through the 60s and 70s Cold War stuff but to everyone who lived through it - did it feel anything like this current moment? I have butterflies in my stomach and I can't tell if I'm just being dramatic.
    I was born in 1960, so as a child it really all seemed somewhat surreal to me. If memory serves me correct most of us used to joke about 'put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye' kind of humour.

    We were kids, we thought the future was eternal.

    Yes, I take it a lot more seriously now ~ but what can we do but watch it all unfold?

    Such is life.

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    • Douglas Macgregor: Putin Issues FINAL Nuclear Warning, Ukraine At Risk Of TOTAL DESTRUCTION:
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)
    I was born too late to live through the 60s and 70s Cold War stuff but to everyone who lived through it - did it feel anything like this current moment? I have butterflies in my stomach and I can't tell if I'm just being dramatic.
    Not sure about "the current moment", but the climate of those times was such that the possibility of nuclear war was taken VERY seriously — by the media, both governments, and the entire populace. The overriding unquestioned view was that you just didn't mess with that.

    That generation truly understood the issues. Now, we no longer seem to.

    Nuclear war films and documentaries were shown frequently then, the UK's unforgettable and traumatic The War Game and (even more so) Threads making the US's The Day After look like a kindergarten party. (Threads might be the most terrible thing ever to have been shown on film. Many viewers reported having nightmares for literally weeks on end.)

    None of these kinds of docudrama are being aired now. My only guess at why is that the media platforms judge that the viewers might not be that interested.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Over an hour in now, and I do HIGHLY recommend this.

    Some more movie references. Very relevant and not at all trivial, as the themes are well-thought out and instructive (and extremely well-produced and acted, too.)
    • Fail Safe (both versions, 1964 and 2000), about a nuclear strike against Moscow caused by a system error.
    • Crimson Tide (1995), about a mutiny on a US nuclear submarine over whether or not to launch missiles against Russia after a malfunction leaves the launch order ambiguous.
    • The Sum of All Fears (2002), about a rogue nuke suitcase bomb that the US has assumed Russia is responsible for.
    • The War Game (1966) and Threads (1984), considered by many as the two most terrifying and realistic docudramas ever made.

    You can change the video quality settings to HD720p

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    When someone says: "Radius of 9 Kilometers aka 5.6 Miles" you have to double that size that makes it 18 km/11.2 Miles and that is just 1 point to another point on a 2D map!

    What you see in the video below is not "just 1 point to another point on the map" but "squared"! >>> 18 Km squared is alt least an impact of 324 Km/201 Miles area! >>> not counting the aftermath of the surrounding area outside the zone of impact!... Aftermath like: the enormous shockwave & super heat wave affecting 40 Km/24.85 Miles squared and the radiation fall out of contaminated particles coming down, making a huge area at least 100Km/62 Miles squared unlivable for centuries!

    And that was a Russian made weapon, ready for use in 1961 ... 63 years ago! ... Let that sink in for a moment!

    Please correct me if I am wrong in understanding what people on Earth could face in coming decades?

    Unless UFOs/UAPs will intervene as they already did in the past ... there are multiple "UFOs & Nukes" Project Avalon Forum Threads discussing exactly that:
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    • US missiles striking inside Russia: how will Putin respond?

    • Jeffrey Sachs: Russia's Weapons Of Destruction In RED ALERT After Putin APPROVES Nuclear Doctrine:
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    • Douglas Macgregor: Putin Issues FINAL Nuclear Warning, Ukraine At Risk Of TOTAL DESTRUCTION:
    This is a more critical situation than most can comprehend. I agree with a lot of what Macgregor is saying.

    One thing Macgregor didn't say though is what the Biden Administration and those pulling the strings have done to the America people relating to escalating the war with Russia. The Biden Administration basically gave the majority of the American population who voted against these types of things a couple weeks ago the middle finger. The Biden administration just told the American people that they have no word in this insane decision and that their lives are meaningless!!!!!!!

    THIS IS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The arrogance and insanity of these psychopathic bastards is beyond out of line. They need to be stopped, but obviously, those in DC don't give a damn. I'm pissed.

    January 20th is very likely too far away and these demonic psychopaths know this. The only chance we really have from being vaporized is for Russia to restrain themselves from taking the bait. As it looks to me this will be very costly for Russia to do but it may be the only thing to prevent WW3 right now.

    The world being vaporized right now is the most serious matter on the table right now yet those in DC are bitching about ridiculous lies of Tulsi being a Russian assett or Matt gates trafficking children?????????? WTF???????????

    I've never seen so much stupidity in my life. Trump needs to verbally get out in front of this, and soon. There are no sane adults in the room other than him and several of those around him.
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    UK shoots 12 missiles into Russia. These psychopathic demons are surely trying to provoke Russia in to a response.

    This video talks about it.

    Everyone thinks this is completely insane except for the lunatics doing it.

    This isn't gonna turn out well unless someone stands up against these psychopaths and stops them somehow. Russia isn't going to just stand around and let several NATO countries bomb their homeland.

    I have a feeling Russia is going to respond and it won't be pretty.

    It's becoming obvious that the Demoncrats, deep state, and globablists elite are willing and ready to destroy this planet and kill off humanity.

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    You may not want to watch this video.....

    It's game over if these weapons are used.

    The True Scale Of Modern Nuclear Weapons
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    Andrei Martyanov | A Reminder | Nov. 20, 2024

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    Scott Ritter Reveals: Russia's REVENGE Attack Is Coming! US Embassy Was Evacuated URGENTLY!
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    Scott Ritter talking to Judge Napolitano.

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    Updated 20 November 2024

    For the first time, Ukraine has fired US-supplied longer-range missiles at a target inside Russian territory.

    Until now, Washington had refused to allow strikes on Russian territory with Atacms missiles because it feared they would escalate the war - but in the past few days, the US has changed its stance.

    Here's what we know about the Atacms missile system.

    Why has the US allowed Ukraine to use long-range missiles inside Russia?
    Ukraine has been using Atacms on Russian targets in occupied Ukrainian territory for more than a year.

    American munitions and hardware are already being used inside Russia's Kursk border region.

    But the US had never allowed Kyiv to use the Atacms inside Russia – until now.

    Ukraine had argued that not being allowed to use such weapons inside Russia was like being asked to fight with one hand tied behind its back.

    The change in policy reportedly comes in response to the recent arrival of North Korean troops to support Russia in the Kursk region, where Ukraine has occupied territory since August.

    Also, Donald Trump’s imminent return to the White House is raising fears over the future of US support for Ukraine, and President Biden is apparently keen to do all he can to help in the little time he has left in office.

    Strengthening Ukraine's hand militarily – so the thinking goes - could grant Ukraine leverage in any peace talks that may lie ahead.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has not yet confirmed the move. But he said on Sunday: "Strikes are not made with words ... The missiles will speak for themselves."
    Entire article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2nrlq1840o
    It remains to be seen what legal action the Trump Administration can take at this time to dissipate or weaken the aggression shown by the Democrats. This terrible move might have the official Biden signature but it's doubtful whether he would be judged compos mentis, and this might be enough to retract it.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Barking Chihuahuas
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    And George Galloway's relevant monologue:
    "How Biden mistook the nuclear football for a chamber pot. OAPs' stolen coal. Torpedoing the Trump battleship. And Russia's on the march"
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    #BREAKING: Russia launched a intercontinental ballistic missile towards the city of Dnipro this morning, marking Moscow’s first use of such weaponry in war. - factal news

    Reports from Ukraine claim a huge flash

    https://x.com/meduza_en/status/1859521912835101168
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    #BREAKING: Russia launched a intercontinental ballistic missile towards the city of Dnipro this morning, marking Moscow’s first use of such weaponry in war. - factal news

    Reports from Ukraine claim a huge flash

    https://x.com/meduza_en/status/18595...Fread%3D248639
    These are suspected non-nuclear loaded (in this instance) capable ICBM missiles (MIRV) and these are three available pieces of footage at the time of writing:

    Russian (likely) MIRV ICBM missiles strike Dnepropetrovsk overnight November 20, 2024

    I counted 4 hits on video 1:



    Video 2:



    Video 3



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    More or less confirmed that the target was the Ukrainian Yuzhmash arms factory

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    This just posted by Scott Ritter. It's very informative and helps to provide context to what we are actually seeing here:
    Russia has unveiled a new weapon system as a warning to Ukraine and the West.

    Russia has apparently launched a single RS-26 Rubezh road mobile missile against a target in Dnipro, Ukraine (Dnipropetrovsk). According to Ukrainian authorities, the missile struck an unnamed industrial enterprise.

    Dnipro is home to the Pivdenmash (former Yuzhmash) missile production facility.
    Analysis of imagery of the attack indicates the RS-26 carried six independent warheads, each in turn deploying several submunitions. This warhead package is exclusively for conventional attack. Russia had not been previously assessed to outfit the RS-26 with a warhead of this design.

    By unveiling the conventionally armed RS-26, Russia is changing the qualitative nature of the conflict, something promised by President Vladimir Putin.

    Ukraine and its Western allies must now evaluate the destructive potential of this weapon, and understand that Russia can deliver this warhead to any target in Ukraine or Europe knowing there is no defense against it.

    The RS-26 is produced in Votkinsk. It is assessed that the production of the RS-26, which was halted in 2017, was resumed this past summer. With production rates estimated at 6-8 missiles per month, Russia could have accumulated an arsenal of between 30-40 RS-26 missiles. Although described as an intercontinental ballistic missile, the RS-26’s range actually depends on the warhead package. If armed with a single warhead, it can exceed the 5,000 kilometer threshold used to differentiate between intermediate and intercontinental range missiles. The RS-26 did not go into serial production because of this ambiguity; at the time, Russia was a signatory to the INF treaty, which prohibited intermediate range missiles.

    It is assessed that the six warhead conventional warhead package used against Dnipro would have made the RS-26 used fall into the intermediate range for classification.

    Donald Trump withdrew from the INF treaty in 2019.

    If the United States had remained in the treaty, this version of the RS-26 would not have been available for use by Russia.
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    Interesting indeed
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    Well, first time I've seen this happen in any of Maria's pressers although it may have been staged Who knows, maybe it was pizza delivery...

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    "wow, in the middle of her press briefing just now, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova got a phone call from someone instructing her not to comment on today’s ICBM allegations."
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    I was born too late to live through the 60s and 70s Cold War stuff but to everyone who lived through it - did it feel anything like this current moment? I have butterflies in my stomach and I can't tell if I'm just being dramatic.
    Not sure about "the current moment", but the climate of those times was such that the possibility of nuclear war was taken VERY seriously — by the media, both governments, and the entire populace. The overriding unquestioned view was that you just didn't mess with that.

    That generation truly understood the issues. Now, we no longer seem to.

    Nuclear war films and documentaries were shown frequently then, the UK's unforgettable and traumatic The War Game and (even more so) Threads making the US's The Day After look like a kindergarten party. (Threads might be the most terrible thing ever to have been shown on film. Many viewers reported having nightmares for literally weeks on end.)

    None of these kinds of docudrama are being aired now. My only guess at why is that the media platforms judge that the viewers might not be that interested.
    My take on this is that there is a general lack of awareness of what's going on. The MSM only reports what the 'deep state' wants us to know, which is little. This is intentional dumbing down of people. They don't want us to protest their moves, nor do they want us to be prepared for major destruction of infrastructure. The cabal's main goal is depopulation, by whatever means, and it sees a good opportunity to accomplish this with the US remaining military capacities, at the last stage of the Biden administration, so that Trump has to deal with the mess. Russia will wisely retaliate with maximum restraint, but the main problem is that the psychopaths in the US don't fee constrained by any restraint.

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    This post might be more relevant to the Turmoil in GB thread but maybe everyone based in the EU and Western countries should ask themselves the same question right now.

    What brasses me off most of all is that our governments have been playing chicken with our lives instead of running their countries properly and fulfilling their electoral promises. Yet even now, when we're poised on the brink of WW3 and relying on Russia to turn the other cheek while they escalate hostilities, most of our fellow countrymen remain woefully unaware of the implication.

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