Chinese and anti-Chinese propaganda — what's the truth?

[Jim_Duyer]

Certainly not the major manufacturers, but for sure some of the smaller producers of merchandise in China are able to provide them at such lower prices because of one simple trick. The employees of a large, foreign factory, aided by the local security guards, enter the factory at night and run off a few hundred copies and take them home. They then sell these at a lower price because they actually paid nothing for it. And of course there is the fact that they acknowledge no international copyright laws or at least refuse to enforce them, allowing stolen books, music, and other items to be sold for pennies on the dollar.

[Bill Ryan]

This is a fascinating personal video, just 29 minutes long. Neil McCoy-Ward, who is English, travels all over the world with his American wife, and shares their first-hand experiences on his channel. In this new video, he describes their very first visit to China.

(The video title says he was 'shocked'. That's a little clickbait-y, because what he really was was surprised and impressed.)

Interestingly, he's made a connection with Alex from Reporterfy, who lives in China himself and has appeared several times with Alexander Mercouris on The Duran. Some readers may recognize the name.

Two of the many things worth noting are that Neil swears

• That he's not paid by anyone and is not a shill or propagandist of any kind;

• That he asked a number of people he encountered about the Chinese Social Credit Score system, and no-one he spoke to knew anything about it.
  (He speculates that it might be something run in maybe just one city in China as an experiment, or alternatively that it's just all western propaganda. He confesses that it was a mystery to him.)

For the record, I'm personally convinced that Neil is describing 100% accurately exactly what he experienced there.

I went to CHINA... and I was SHOCKED by the Experience!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrwf1OaHRDw

Edit to add:

The hundreds of YouTube comments are very interesting too, almost unanimously agreeing with Neil that the western media portrayal of China is deeply flawed and misleading, to put it politely. The comments really do appear to be from real people, also describing their personal experiences in quite some detail. They're well worth reading.

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The hundreds of YouTube comments are very interesting too, almost unanimously agreeing with Neil that the western media portrayal of China is deeply flawed and misleading, to put it politely. The comments really do appear to be from real people, also describing their personal experiences in quite some detail. They're well worth reading.

It's 2,500 comments in three days.

We have no Chinese posting here, or hardly anyone who has gotten a close look at it.

One notices many of the slanders are "projections", that is, to take our own problems and try to make it look like someone else is doing it. Hence, comparatively, the homeland of censorship and mind control is the UK. That's what most of those people were able to determine in about five minutes. Of course, the UK response would be to tell us those comments are all shills, Rule Britannia. Since we know this knee-jerk response could be programmed into the brain of a monkey, it may be overlooked.

Yes, of course, the establishment has got itself in a bind by basically "sending" General Motors, and, I have no idea how many companies, into China, because American workers wanted viable wages. It's been replaced here with nothing, and there, it has outgrown control. And just look at how the headquarters turned up on Isle of Man or similar British protectorate. Pencil pushers.

Compared to that huge mass of comments, I'll just say that in the past few months, a small number of Chinese have not only been "friendlier" to me, but also more "colorful" or "alive" inside themselves, than a large number of Americans.

[onawah]

Yes, very interesting Bill, the way the CCP is spreading lots and lots of money around to shills who are willing to testify about how great and wonderful and spotless things are in China, and how the people are so well off, even in the rural areas.
They might even see some happy looking Uyghurs who are forced to smile and dance and perform for tourists, for if they don't they know only too well what the CCP will do to them.
But of course, the tourists are only allowed now in certain areas which are well prepared to put a good face on it, and pretend that they are welcome and well-liked, when in fact even the elementary school children are taught how to hate and attack with weaponry imaginary Americans and Japanese in particular.
You might think that that kind of thing is actually just American anti-Chinese propaganda, but when such things are actually caught on video and shown on youtube channels like "The China Show" it gets kind of tricky.
Especially the videos showing the special vans now that patrol the streets in China looking for victims they can kidnap, drug and slaughter for parts to be sold for organ replacement.
Or the videos showing the filthy streets strewn with garbage and full of the homeless, and filthy skies from all the coal burning, and shorelines that have been poisoned with untreated waste from nuclear plants.
Or the videos showing miles and miles of junked electric cars and bikes piled up and rusting away for years on end.
Or the miles and miles of dead foliage that are sprayed green to make it look from the air like the plants and trees are actually alive.
Or the fields of metal spikes stuck in the ground with metal "flowers" attached to make it look from the air like they are fields of wildflowers.
Or the hoards of crazed survivors of the Cultural Revolution who will vie tooth and nail for any kind of free or discounted anything that isn't tied down, shoving and trampling each other and anyone else who gets in the way.
Or the hospitals and cremetoriams so full of the sick and dying that they can barely function.
Or the dams and highways and buildings that are built so poorly that they fall apart soon after they are completed.
Or the hundreds of thousands of nearly completed apartment buildings that stand empty because it's cheaper not to complete them, but continue to charge those who are paying mortgages on them, hoping someday to be able to move in (though they begin crumbling to dust way before that can ever happen.)
Or the countless number of fires and explosions that occur daily because safety measures are rarely put in place, and the fire hydrants are actually not hooked up to any water supply, but put in place just for show.
Or the rising crowds of Chinese people who see now they have nothing to lose and are beginning to protest and riot or the hordes of police who beat them into submission.
Or the countless apathetic young academic graduates who are "lying flat", living off their parents on living homeless on the streets because there are no jobs.
Or the videos of Chinese tourists in other countries who behave so badly, with such disrespect, showing what contempt with which they have been educated to regard other nations and races.
It's all about saving face for the CCP, and that will continue to be the case until people really start taking a closer look.
The CCP might actually start trying to make some improvements if enough people begin to realize the truth, but it's so much easier to just lie and lie and spread propaganda to make it look like things are actually great in China.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is a fascinating personal video, just 29 minutes long. Neil McCoy-Ward, who is English, travels all over the world with his American wife, and shares their first-hand experiences on his channel. In this new video, he describes their very first visit to China.

(The video title says he was 'shocked'. That's a little clickbait-y, because what he really was was surprised and impressed.)

Interestingly, he's made a connection with Alex from Reporterfy, who lives in China himself and has appeared several times with Alexander Mercouris on The Duran. Some readers may recognize the name.

Two of the many things worth noting are that Neil swears

• That he's not paid by anyone and is not a shill or propagandist of any kind;

• That he asked a number of people he encountered about the Chinese Social Credit Score system, and no-one he spoke to knew anything about it.
  (He speculates that it might be something run in maybe just one city in China as an experiment, or alternatively that it's just all western propaganda. He confesses that it was a mystery to him.)

For the record, I'm personally convinced that Neil is describing 100% accurately exactly what he experienced there.

I went to CHINA... and I was SHOCKED by the Experience!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrwf1OaHRDw

Edit to add:

The hundreds of YouTube comments are very interesting too, almost unanimously agreeing with Neil that the western media portrayal of China is deeply flawed and misleading, to put it politely. The comments really do appear to be from real people, also describing their personal experiences in quite some detail. They're well worth reading.

Yes, exactly what "White Monkeys" are spreading and have been for a long time (ie shills paid by the CCP to spread propaganda about how great things are in China). You can expect to see more and more of it, as the CCP is not adverse to spending plenty of money on White Monkey propaganda, but very reluctant to spend it on living conditions for average Chinese citizens. There are lots of examples of White Monkey videos from the last 5 years on the Turmoil in China thread, which would have alerted everyone to the truth of this situation had attention been paid. Since few were paying attention, the way has been conveniently paved for more and more of the same from the CCP now.

[Isserley]

Here is a somewhat second-hand experience (and politically incorrect view) - my ex's brother studied microbiology in Wuhan from 2005 after which he continued to work there to this day as a professor at the Lanzhou College of Ecology.

We haven't been in contact for a long time, but when we were, he shared his impressions of China in an interesting way. He often complained about the unhygienic nature of people and public spaces, squatters, overcrowded trains, very bad organization of everything... extremely bad beer watered down to the point of being undrinkable, which is not necessarily bad for the Chinese as they have a bad tolerance for alcohol. He used to say about people that they have the character of calm, listless cattle.
He also mentioned the huge bureaucratic-military apparatus in charge of managing everything but in particular the border crossings. All subordinate to leaving the impression of a serious, big country that takes the border and especially itself, very seriously.
These were mostly his subjective impressions from student days, so we didn't talk much about politics and now, almost 20 years later, things could be different.
Only the fact is that he still lives there, so I guess its not that bad.

His quote: "Falling in love with Wuhan is a bit like falling in love with…hm…not particularly attractive woman…person….well, ok, very unattractive woman……hell......it’s like falling in love with the ugliest woman in the world……..amazing! Complete absence of outer beauty relieves one of any doubt that your senses might be blinding and playing games with you. And then there is that peculiar moment when your perception magically changes and the raw, genuine, sincere beauty, very few seem to be able to see, hits you right in the guts and shatters your world to pieces."

[shaberon]

This is not propaganda -- it's a report, which may be a criterion of "truth":

As chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in 2025, Malaysia is determined to promote closer ties with Russia, Malaysian Minister of Agriculture and Food Security Mohamad Sabu told Sputnik late last year.

The US is so focused on the proxy war in Ukraine that it has has lost sight towards Asia, Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim told the Financial Times.

“Maybe they are focused on Europe, I don’t know. But certainly, they have reduced placing importance [on the region] other than general foreign policy statements,” Anwar said.

Washington's neglect of its relationship with ASEAN has led to the US losing ground to China in south-east Asia, he argued.

“We engage well with the US but it does not engage the region as actively as it did in the past. China in that sense takes a more positive attitude,” said the PM.

He pointed to a series of visits by senior Chinese government figures to Malaysia, which formally takes over the annually rotating chairmanship of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) this year.

“They give better access, you can meet them easily. We send ministers there, they send ministers,” Anwar said.

He defended the decision by regional nations like his country to engage constructively with China — and welcomed increased Chinese investment in infrastructure.

“It’s better for smaller economies such as Malaysia to extend its [ties] with China,” Anwar said.

The leader rejected the notion that ASEAN needed to be “tough” with China under Malaysia’s chairmanship.

“Why do we need to be tough? We disagree on many foreign policy issues with the US but we want them to be an important ally," Anwar said. "With China, I don’t think it’s a matter of being tough against a strong, big neighbor.”

The PM played down concerns over Donald Trump’s planned trade tariffs, convinced that “reason will probably prevail.”

“There are too many US conglomerates and companies that have so much interest in and dependence on foreign trade and investments,” Anwar said.

Malaysia will also seek to "maintain close relations with Russia" during its ASEAN chairmanship, Minister of Agriculture and Food Security Mohamad Sabu told Sputnik late last year.

Malaysia and Russia have "very strong relations, including in defense," the minister added.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by onawah (here)
Yes, very interesting Bill, the way the CCP is spreading lots and lots of money around to shills who are willing to testify about how great and wonderful and spotless things are in China, and how the people are so well off, even in the rural areas.

I doubt that Neil McCoy-Ward is any kind of shill. One of his other videos was posted by norman on the Strategic Relocation thread, when he visited the Thai island of Koh Samui, which I know very well. I replied on the thread that everything he reported in his video was 100% accurate from my own personal experience.

Did you watch the video of his visit to China? I found it really very interesting, and as best I could tell it was completely sincerely reported.

[norman]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Yes, very interesting Bill, the way the CCP is spreading lots and lots of money around to shills who are willing to testify about how great and wonderful and spotless things are in China, and how the people are so well off, even in the rural areas.

I doubt that Neil McCoy-Ward is any kind of shill. One of his other videos was posted by norman on the Strategic Relocation thread, when he visited the Thai island of Koh Samui, which I know very well. I replied on the thread that everything he reported in his video was 100% accurate from my own personal experience.

Did you watch the video of his visit to China? I found it really very interesting, and as best I could tell it was completely sincerely reported.

No, they are 2 different people.

From Bill:
Thanks! My bad

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is a fascinating personal video, just 29 minutes long. Neil McCoy-Ward, who is English, travels all over the world with his American wife, and shares their first-hand experiences on his channel. In this new video, he describes their very first visit to China.

(The video title says he was 'shocked'. That's a little clickbait-y, because what he really was was surprised and impressed.)

Interestingly, he's made a connection with Alex from Reporterfy, who lives in China himself and has appeared several times with Alexander Mercouris on The Duran. Some readers may recognize the name.

Two of the many things worth noting are that Neil swears

• That he's not paid by anyone and is not a shill or propagandist of any kind;

• That he asked a number of people he encountered about the Chinese Social Credit Score system, and no-one he spoke to knew anything about it.
  (He speculates that it might be something run in maybe just one city in China as an experiment, or alternatively that it's just all western propaganda. He confesses that it was a mystery to him.)

For the record, I'm personally convinced that Neil is describing 100% accurately exactly what he experienced there.

I went to CHINA... and I was SHOCKED by the Experience!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrwf1OaHRDw

Edit to add:

The hundreds of YouTube comments are very interesting too, almost unanimously agreeing with Neil that the western media portrayal of China is deeply flawed and misleading, to put it politely. The comments really do appear to be from real people, also describing their personal experiences in quite some detail. They're well worth reading.

During Neil’s lengthy chat with Alex from Reporterfy, they both act edgy when a man briefly approaches them from behind, as they sit on (presumably) a public bench. In this talk, it is explained how Neil was invited on this 3-day junket to China by Alex, while in Thailand a bit earlier, where Alex “has a home”. It was also described, and shown in the shoe store clips, how Alex facilitated all of Neil’s purchases. No mention of Neil having paid those sums back.

I only looked at the first pinned comment, by Neil, where he reiterates that he was not paid for this report of his views. Of iirc 14 responses, a third or more question his truthfulness. In that pinned cmnt, he included a link to Alex’s YT chan, which I now have subd+beld. Haven’t watched any of his vids yet, but the thumbnails say chan is China-focused, and on the face of it pro-China.

My current take is that Alex is a kind of freelance handler of prospective “white monkeys”, a kind of glad-handler.

The taxi rides were said to be organized by Alex, and the one that denied knowing about a credit score spoke passable English, which struck me as odd. I dunno, but this one denial doesn’t negate the many reports claiming that that score is a thing, for me.

Title of this thread asks what’s the truth?. Anybody care enough to look into my allegations? If so, thank yous! I’d love to be proven wrong.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is a fascinating personal video, just 29 minutes long. Neil McCoy-Ward, who is English, travels all over the world with his American wife, and shares their first-hand experiences on his channel. In this new video, he describes their very first visit to China.

(The video title says he was 'shocked'. That's a little clickbait-y, because what he really was was surprised and impressed.)

Interestingly, he's made a connection with Alex from Reporterfy, who lives in China himself and has appeared several times with Alexander Mercouris on The Duran. Some readers may recognize the name.

Two of the many things worth noting are that Neil swears

• That he's not paid by anyone and is not a shill or propagandist of any kind;

• That he asked a number of people he encountered about the Chinese Social Credit Score system, and no-one he spoke to knew anything about it.
  (He speculates that it might be something run in maybe just one city in China as an experiment, or alternatively that it's just all western propaganda. He confesses that it was a mystery to him.)

For the record, I'm personally convinced that Neil is describing 100% accurately exactly what he experienced there.

I went to CHINA... and I was SHOCKED by the Experience!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrwf1OaHRDw

Edit to add:

The hundreds of YouTube comments are very interesting too, almost unanimously agreeing with Neil that the western media portrayal of China is deeply flawed and misleading, to put it politely. The comments really do appear to be from real people, also describing their personal experiences in quite some detail. They're well worth reading.

During Neil’s lengthy chat with Alex from Reporterfy, they both act edgy when a man briefly approaches them from behind, as they sit on (presumably) a public bench. In this talk, it is explained how Neil was invited on this 3-day junket to China by Alex, while in Thailand a bit earlier, where Alex “has a home”. It was also described, and shown in the shoe store clips, how Alex facilitated all of Neil’s purchases. No mention of Neil having paid those sums back.

I only looked at the first pinned comment, by Neil, where he reiterates that he was not paid for this report of his views. Of iirc 14 responses, a third or more question his truthfulness. In that pinned cmnt, he included a link to Alex’s YT chan, which I now have subd+beld. Haven’t watched any of his vids yet, but the thumbnails say chan is China-focused, and on the face of it pro-China.

My current take is that Alex is a kind of freelance handler of prospective “white monkeys”, a kind of glad-handler.

The taxi rides were said to be organized by Alex, and the one that denied knowing about a credit score spoke passable English, which struck me as odd. I dunno, but this one denial doesn’t negate the many reports claiming that that score is a thing, for me.

Title of this thread asks what’s the truth?. Anybody care enough to look into my allegations? If so, thank yous! I’d love to be proven wrong.

You should change your nickname from Johnnycomelately to Johnnyinthenick of time.
Thank you - the truth comes out finally.
We could, if we wished to waste a whole lot of time, respond to all of the comments that tell us how great China is and how bad the USA is presently. But they would simply gear up another thousand of their paid shills to blanket us.
Perhaps it would be better if we ignored the garbage, and spent the time studying how Trump is working to make the USA a decent place to live again. Yes, it is bad there now. Yes, it will take time - it didn't get screwed up in four years.
And, if we perhaps have a bit of extra time, we could wish the folks in Britain well, and see what they can do to straighten up their equally large mess.

I won't post on this topic again, you'll be happy to know, so the ChiComms can cease plotting how to shut me up.

[HopSan]

Thanks all!

I LIVED almost a year here in Finland (forced circumstances, guess)
with a small part of a Thai family.

They were very nice people, but extremely simple -- as I was at age
10. One of them had lived here for many years, but still knew none of
our language.

I spent months trying to explain non-Thai world to them.
They were not interested, they were scared of electricity.

They had their King (since 1000's of years) who just died.
They did not want to say a single bad word of Him.
Not because they were scared, but because he was Their King.

I know nothing of Chinese culture, but it is at least as old as
Thai-culture.

As Thais, Chinese like their way.
And I understand none of it.

[onawah]

For those not familiar with the term "white monkey" it refers to a person (usually Caucasian, sometimes Black or Indian) who is paid to tell lies about how great things are in China (or North Korea) or (sometimes even celebrities) who take a particular kind of paid commercial job designed to attract a lot of attention from Chinese consumers. But it gets worse...

The Dark Secret Of White Monkey Jobs In China
China Truths
42.8K subscribers
Jun 5, 2023

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ja3rYcXZF_4

More about Chinese disinformation coming from the two guys whose youtube channel "The China Show" has been a frequent feature on the "Turmoil in China" thread. They have both also posted videos on youtube about their experiences working at White Monkey jobs in the early years when they were living and working in China.
Confronting The Men Exposing China’s Lies (ft. Laowhy86 and SerpentZA)
Dropping in Podcast
120K subscribers
221,457 views Apr 28, 2023
"On today's episode Charlie interviews the men behind ‪@ADVChina‬ Winston Sterzel ‪@serpentza‬ and Matthew Tye ‪@laowhy86‬
The duo have both lived in China for over a decade and through their motorcycle vlogs have experienced the country in a truly unique way.
Winston and Matthew give their insights on the state of Chinese affairs, propaganda, de-dollarization, and much more!"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GZAyNHmrNgw

Do a search on youtube for "White Monkeys" and lots more videos will appear.
Another one from "The China Show" creators:
More Absurd White Monkey Jobs in China
China Fact Chasers
183K subscribers
25K views 2 years ago
"Russian's parading as Brits, dubbed voices to appear more manly, cringe acting jobs and more. These are the White Monkeys in China!"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cYTUHlKr_-0

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
My current take is that Alex is a kind of freelance handler of prospective “white monkeys”, a kind of glad-handler.
Title of this thread asks what’s the truth?. Anybody care enough to look into my allegations? If so, thank yous! I’d love to be proven wrong.

Addressing rumors about the collapse of the dollar, Catherine Austin Fitts in this Solari Report short:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uBJ8E99ah7E

[Ernie Nemeth]

Posted by onawah (here)
I count 21 posts from Ravenlocke on this thread which just started yesterday, out of 36 posts in total so far.
Amazing how just one person can read through so many articles, watch so many videos and make so many posts in just one day!
But that's not all--in total there were 42 posts made by Ravenlocke just yesterday, and many of them containing more than just one long article or video.
(I'm guessing only a phenomonally accomplished speed reader would be able to do this and stay within the guideline rules for members about posting only information which we have examined thoroughly ourselves.
I wonder if anyone has ever kept score on the record number of posts made in one day by one Avalonian, or the amount of space taken up...)
Which leads me to believe I will not be posting on this thread as I could not possibly keep up.
Hopefully my Turmoil in China thread will have some effect after all, if only in retrospect....
I feel my retirement looming...

The resident gaslighter strikes again...
Another thread rendered biased
and unbalanced

[onawah]

Ernie, I really wish I had not been proven right about this sort of thing so many times in the past.
I would like nothing better than that the forum were never subject to any kind of doubtful information or practices.
And I don't particularly enjoy serving as a kind of watchdog here, but if the members don't pitch in, the Mods get overwhelmed.
If you think I am the only member who has similar concerns, you would be wrong.

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
The resident gaslighter strikes again...
Another thread rendered biased
and unbalanced

[Michel Leclerc]

Commenting on Isserley’s

Here is a somewhat second-hand experience (and politically incorrect view) - my ex's brother studied microbiology in Wuhan from 2005 after which he continued to work there to this day as a professor at the Lanzhou College of Ecology.

Thank you Isserley. I like your ex’s brother’s last sentence a lot.
A comment on life, really.

Maybe you should get in touch with him again.
Thanks to PA, he is famous now.

[Strat]

Posted by onawah (here)
Ernie, I really wish I had not been proven right about this sort of thing so many times in the past.
I would like nothing better than that the forum were never subject to any kind of doubtful information or practices.
And I don't particularly enjoy serving as a kind of watchdog here, but if the members don't pitch in, the Mods get overwhelmed.
If you think I am the only member who has similar concerns, you would be wrong.

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
The resident gaslighter strikes again...
Another thread rendered biased
and unbalanced

I got you Natalie. You're not alone.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
For the record, I'm personally convinced that Neil is describing 100% accurately exactly what he experienced there.

... yup, but unfortunately, more in line with Johnny's comments, I came away immediately convinced that what Neil experienced there was totally and deliberately staged, like The Truman Show.

I trust Lei's Real Talk far more.

[onawah]

I think the "China Show" guys both of whom and travelled and worked all over China for over a decade, had the same kind of experience.
Although they saw first hand the great harm the Communisit Party has done to China during and after the Cultural Revolution, they were still struck with the beauty of the countryside and the enduring strength of the people, even under conditions of severe hardship imposed on them by the CCP.
That's probably the main reason they have persisted posting faithfully on their various threads and sharing their experience for so many years.

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
Commenting on Isserley’s

Here is a somewhat second-hand experience (and politically incorrect view) - my ex's brother studied microbiology in Wuhan from 2005 after which he continued to work there to this day as a professor at the Lanzhou College of Ecology.

Thank you Isserley. I like your ex’s brother’s last sentence a lot.
A comment on life, really.

Maybe you should get in touch with him again.
Thanks to PA, he is famous now.

[Ravenlocke]

Why the US Government hate China
Scott Ritter interview with Carl Zia
And Alex Reporterfy

Carl Zha and ‪@Reporterfy‬ talk to Scott Ritter about why US government elite hate China's Belt and Road Initiative which builds connectivity throughout the world. How US gov has successfully spread anti-China propaganda among American population.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-I5K_O9DXSc

[onawah]

Here is this week's episode of "The China Show".
These two guys spent over a decade each working and travelling all over China until it became too dangerous for them to stay, and now they both live in the US (Matt is American, Winston is from South Africa).
They make a point of exposing what the CCP is up to, interspersed with their own commentary and experiences (and silly entertainment at times, to keep it light).
They are both married to Chinese women they met in China and still have contacts in China who help them to stay informed as to what is going on there, and they stay abreast of news coming from other media sources (there is a list on their youtube page).
Considering how the CCP censors anything they don't want to be out there, imho they are doing a pretty good job of exposing the CCP, the propaganda in particular.
The subject matter is often backed up with videos that were obviously taken in China.
Though I think they are still naive about what nefariousness the US Deep State is up to, I have to agree with them that in comparison, daily reality for the vast majority of the Chinese people (though not so much for the wealthy) is a lot more dystopian than reality in the US (so far, at least).
Of course, it's not just these guys who have been exposing that dystopian reality over years past.
Many more examples from various sources have been posted over the past 5 years on the "Turmoil in China" thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...rmoil-in-China

The China Show Episode #247
332K Subscribers
1/25/25

"There's an insane amount of fake AI content about the fires in Los Angeles, and it looks like China is spreading them around the internet for its own twisted goals."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bZciXwVsYQk