Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)

... YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

I have to totally agree with you about the private and public sides not mixing. The clear, clean water of sovereignty cannot have even a few drops of the sewage that is the corporate/admiralty system. We have been programmed to think that compromising is a good thing. By accepting that premise we have been 'compromised'.

Well put, Modwiz, and good call to underscore Gripreaper's point.

From this and a couple of other posts, I'd like to ask Grip to start a thread on law, but rather than focus on just Admiralty, or Maritime, or UCC, etc., I'd love to see a thread describing a realistic ("Common", or something new, if need be) system of law - taking into account that it would be the basis for international law. I know that in one way, when anyone mentions an overarching system of anything, it has the smell of One World BS on it. But nations do trade and citizens do cross borders, and it makes sense to me that there should be some high level law for humanity - to protect us from being controlled by elites, for example, or outrageously harsh penalties for breaking a local custom or law (like drug possession or dress codes for women, for example.)

To segue this back to Drake, in a Drake thread, the proposed thread would be something that I would hope Drake's compatriots would read.

Dennis

[xbusymom]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)

... YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

I have to totally agree with you about the private and public sides not mixing. The clear, clean water of sovereignty cannot have even a few drops of the sewage that is the corporate/admiralty system. We have been programmed to think that compromising is a good thing. By accepting that premise we have been 'compromised'.

Well put, Modwiz, and good call to underscore Gripreaper's point.

From this and a couple of other posts, I'd like to ask Grip to start a thread on law, but rather than focus on just Admiralty, or Maritime, or UCC, etc., I'd love to see a thread describing a realistic ("Common", or something new, if need be) system of law - taking into account that it would be the basis for international law. I know that in one way, when anyone mentions an overarching system of anything, it has the smell of One World BS on it. But nations do trade and citizens do cross borders, and it makes sense to me that there should be some high level law for humanity - to protect us from being controlled by elites, for example, or outrageously harsh penalties for breaking a local custom or law (like drug possession or dress codes for women, for example.)

To segue this back to Drake, in a Drake thread, the proposed thread would be something that I would hope Drake's compatriots would read.

Dennis

let's see... what is a good label?
spiritual law
heart law
human law
humane law
common sense laws
??

[araucaria]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate"

There's a Donate button on Drake's site, Freedom Reigns too.

Plus Wolf Spirit Radio just ran a drive to raise $2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use.

This is pretty inappropriate imho.

Regarding kk4aei’s credentials, he is from the advanced energy disclosure community; such disclosure being dependent on prior ET disclosure. People might to listen to this fascinating skype conversation with Bill Ryan from Camelot days (Kerry was supposed to chime in but apparently got her time zones mixed up):
www.wonksmedia.com/bill_ryan__todd_hathaway.mp3

kk4aei has passed on the link to this video :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QjJwl25hFNg

This video indicates critical updates posted online at pscinet2012.blogspot.com and carries ‘A message to all white hats: wait for the “green light” signal...’, ‘network with other trusted parties...’, ‘PREPARE YOUR MATERIAL FOR RELEASE’, ‘You have the information...’ ‘YOU HAVE THE PROOF!!!’ ‘You will know what to do... and when’, ‘OPERATION PHOENIX aka the “October Surprise”’, ‘ALL SECRETS WILL BE REVEALED THIS FALL’

From the above website it becomes apparent that kk4aei’s real life handle is Major Todd Hathaway (see bio at http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/toddhathaway.htm). As Bill says, he is someone we ought to listen to.

[Ishtar]

Aruacaria, the post of mine that you just quoted was not in criticism of Major Todd Hathaway, but to indicate that there was nothing wrong in having a Donate button, per se, and I go on to explain my views further in my next post.

However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me.

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

[jp11]

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8

just saying...
Hmmm... In my world , 3 + 4 = "7" (not 8 )

Actually to be correct it should be 8+8+2+8 = 26 which reduces to 8. I noticed that right away but didn't want to critize and then I saw what Stan had posted. Anyway Kimberely just mistakenly put in an extra 8 (look at the date she was using as reference) which would change the total.

[xbusymom]

Posted by jp11 (here)

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)

I was "told" the tipping point happened 8-8-2008 and that date reduces to a solid 8 8+8+8+2+8 = 34 3+4=8

just saying...
Hmmm... In my world , 3 + 4 = "7" (not 8 )

Actually to be correct it should be 8+8+2+8 = 26 which reduces to 8. I noticed that right away but didn't want to critize and then I saw what Stan had posted. Anyway Kimberely just mistakenly put in an extra 8 (look at the date she was using as reference) which would change the total.

oh, I did not see Stans' post...

anyway LOL- don't feel too bad Kimberly- I can't do MATH either!!

[readytogo]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

Dennis

I did not get involved in the overwhelming aspects of legal vs lawful because I thought it would be a fun thing to do on a sunny Saturday afternoon while all my peers were heading to the beach to look at girls in bikini's...I got involved because those peers were losing their homes and were in debt up to their eyeballs, as was I.

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

Could not have said it better myself. To really realize who we are and how powerful we all are is very satisfying. I have enjoyed this process and am completely at peace with the unfolding. We can all stand in our own realization of the beauty of knowing how important duality is to assisting us in this journey. I follow with interest what is manifesting on the physical plane but know that all is as it needs to be to finally see the upliftment of our world.

I am new to this forum but have followed Bill Ryan and Kerry for a very long time. They have introduced me to many important issues and people that I probably would not have found on my own. For this, I am very appreciative.

Thanks to all here for your imput.

[KiwiElf]

The Latest Deatra-Drake audio 26.5 & 12.2 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-06A-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part1.mp3

2012-05-06B-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part2.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns

[StarDust]

In todays interview, Drake may take legal action against Project Camelot for what sounds like a defamation of character case. The plot thickens!

I love the fact that the Moderator/Producer doesn't put up with crap!

Sounds like the main beef is with one of the anti-Drake threads...On Avalon!



Based on the description...it sounds like the character inaccuracies are depicted in this "gem" of a thread

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ighlight=Drake

[Alie]

Posted by StarDust (here)
In todays interview, Drake may take legal action against Project Camelot for what sounds like a defamation of character case. The plot thickens!

I love the fact that the Moderator/Producer doesn't put up with crap!

This is very serious for the naysayers IMHO. To me, this seems more evidence of this being the real deal and vindicates many of us who have been attempting to discuss the information with a hopeful heart.

[KiwiElf]

Which includes a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Camelot and total disbandment of the site...

[Alie]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Which includes a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Camelot and total disbandment of the site...

A few broadcasts notes from 5/6/12.

*** As I heard it, human error is possible but not intentional ****

You should listen to the first thirty minutes, folks, and get your own opinion regarding how Drake feels about certain posts on Project Camelot and/or Project Avalon and Kerry C. I take this to be quite serious. VERY SERIOUS, in fact.

Here are notes for the first 45 minutes of the broadcast, which includes Drake's updates.

(Here's the archive on wolfspirit radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns

1. Liens against BIS and G7 Central Banks in Europe (see David Wilcocks site) --- the legalities are set and the secondary actions are coming in the near future, which is that the liens will become warrants for payments. The banks can’t pay it in gold, so they will have to go to their bonding companies, which also won't be able to pay --- so bankruptcies results. So if they refuse to perform, then that is felonious and anyone involved in that bank will go to jail. Also same with the bonding company. So these things are going to become extraordinary issues. So those involved in those banks will be systematically singled out!!!!!! which means, mass arrests and or single arrests.
2. IRS might be closed down w/in 1, 2 or 4 years and Drake thinks 4 years.
3. How are things are going? Look at the currency exchange rates and bond rates --- 4-5 countries besides Greece close to belly up.
4. Can expect bank holidays for reset. Stock up a few days --- a few weeks. Maybe silver.
5. Gun fights going to happen.
6. Introduced to Mr. Keenen and an international lawyer and a group of people involved with the Keenen lawsuit. This was for discussion so that things come out the way they need to.
7. Military is waiting for at least one thing, and it's coming fairly soon.
8. He got in touch with new militias this week.

[Lost N Found]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Aruacaria, the post of mine that you just quoted was not in criticism of Major Todd Hathaway, but to indicate that there was nothing wrong in having a Donate button, per se, and I go on to explain my views further in my next post.

However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me.

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Ishtar, I thank you for this clarity. My past post was really not directed at a donate button but rather the matter of 7 billion different points of view and how there is the negative and the positive. I ask forgiveness for my rather rough approach to this. We all seem to be grasping for the straws and when someone new shows up we tend to be alittle standoffish, this is just human nature and will be that way until we get some clarity of that point of view. We may then either shun it or except it. I was simply trying to bring a point of positivity into play. We have all lived with this negative attitude for so long and question everything and it seems to me that we do not see any positive other than what may give us pleasure today. I have seen both sides for so long and all of the folks on this forum have something of value to give. It is very much heartening to read all the comments and discern some truth.

As I have said before, and this has to do with this Drake fellow, he is just another fellow human being that is pushing the envelope for all of us to perhaps wake up alittle more and discuss what we know. He is an instigator, Wilcock is an instigator, you are an instigator, we are all instigators in knowlegde and we all have to love one another for what we do. Maybe one day we will all see the same little kearnal of truth, The tipping point, The conscious change that we all desire and need.

Thank you so much again. Peace be with you

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me.

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

[modwiz]

I hope this lawsuit thing is not true. A law suit is not a common law procedure but legal, snake pit tactic. The key word is legal. There is lawful and legal. Legal is the crap legalists make up for us and I want no part of it. It is the kind of system we want to break, not make use of.

IRS for 4 more years? Their existence is unlawful. Without BAR attorneys to support the legal lies that have us paying it would seem to me that we would just stop paying these taxes. All taxes go to the Fed. WTF?

This last batch of info is saying some things completely counter to where we are supposed to be headed, IMO.

Does anybody follow what I am saying here?

[bekrah]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me.

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

That was posted on my profile as well. He was the one saying things wouldn't start happening till fall right?

[Alie]

Modwiz
Regarding the IRS info --- He did not suggest that it was to be operational for collecting taxes .... rather to follow paper trails of the elite. He specifically said it that way (at least what I heard).

Regarding lawsuit ---- I see your point, but ... I took this to be regarding about slander not only about him (I did not read the Dragon posts in full) but slander also against the White Dragon society and that he was unable to counter the posts with his own.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by bekrah (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
...
However, Major Hathaway told us yesterday that he wouldn't be posting anymore...and it turns out, instead, that he's posting the October Surprise video on our Profiles, which is a bit of a covert operation if you ask me.

What would be better, in my opinion, would be for him to openly and transparently start a new thread on October Surprise, so that we can all address his claims on the forum. I personally object to people posting things to my profile when they're not friends of mine on here. It makes me feel like I do when spam mail comes through the door.

Agreed Ishtar - did everyone receive this message from kk4aei ?

That was posted on my profile as well. He was the one saying things wouldn't start happening till fall right?

Yes - there are several posts on this thread

[Ishtar]

Posted by Alie (here)
Modwiz
Regarding lawsuit ---- I see your point, but ... I took this to be regarding about slander not only about him (I did not read the Dragon posts) but slander also against the White Dragon society and that he was unable to counter the posts with his own.

I've just read through that thread again (Drake ~ the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon) and it is as I remembered it, largely highly complimentary to Drake. The only sour note comes from me complaining that he didn't tell the truth about being a Dragon or associated with the White Dragon group on the previous show. He was asked directly and he said No. I've also given the reference to where it can be heard on the tape. I think that is the only thing he may be feeling disgruntled about ... because otherwise it's pretty well understood by everyone in that thread that being in a Dragon group is not necessariy a bad thing, and is most likely a good thing. There was little negativity about that.

I think that thread was one of the most interesting threads we've had since I've been on Avalon. I think Vivek did a fantastic job of it and backed up all his research. There is nothing factually incorrect in that thread, about his character or his past, and so if Drake's attacks Avalon over it, it will be because he didn't like getting caught out over saying something that wasn't strictly true. But if he has any legal guys advising him, I'm sure they'll tell him to back off... with that thread anyway.

Eyewideopen ~ peace and love to you too! We're all on the same side really ... just got different ideas about how to get there.

[KiwiElf]

Whooooo let's not jump the gun - I'm only up to 1:07 on the first audio and nothing has specifically been mentioned about Avalon, Bill or individual posts on Avalon. It is being aimed at Camelot & specifically unmentioned individual(s) post(s) on Camelot, not necessarily just Kerry C.