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    Just curious, you keep using the word "think" out of context the way I am use to seeing it used. Do you mean idea? By this?

    example: "and if processed they would never look into the future because the think would be to look into the past to find what is happening to the person and fix it."
    if someone thinks a certain way about life or situations .. I can say ... this is their think ..on the subject ... something like ;that
    ok, so think is a thought. got it. So I am just curious, is that Scientology terminology, or do you speak with a foreign(different than american english) "accent".
    It is a little known grammatical rule that one can label/name an action by taking the word describing the action and turning it into a noun; e.g., "to run" being the action of running and "a run" being the noun naming the action of running.

    Hence, "to think" describes the action and "a think" is the noun derived from it that names the action.

    The end product is "a thought" for it being the end product of "a think."

    Hence, "a thought" and "a think" are not equivalent or synonyms.

    LRH used it a lot.
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    you can do thisff ... I have to dream up a way to stop it ... or just decide NO MORE CHEM TRAILS .... and let the postulate do the work ... it is funny how postulates work ... you can put in an end thing ... without a work around ... and the postulate will just come up with a way to do it and I get completely surprised how this spirit in me handles it .... so we decide it from now ... NO MORE CHEM TRAILS ... and see what the being will do with that postulate ....
    Summer before last, sometime around the middle of August which seems to be a very powerful time for me, I looked up in the sky and saw an absolutely disgusting mess of chemtrails that stretched from one horizon to the other. I was deeply grieved in my soul. I was just so completely sick and tired of it. I was alone in the backyard. For several minutes I continued to stare at the trails and verbally shout out that "we" do not accept this. "We" did not consent to this. "We" demand an end to it.

    I had never done anything like that before.

    From that day forward, I did not see a single chemtrail in the sky anywhere over Long Island for a period of six weeks. When it got to be October I started thinking, maybe the cabal is finished. The very next day the chemtrails started again.

    I don't know what it was, I'm not making any claims for myself. Probably a coincidence, but Jesus said we could move mountains with our thoughts. I thought it was appropriate to say "we" because I know there are others like me, here on Long Island, who hate these trails and are deeply disturbed by them. Apparently my mistake was not adding the word "permanently" to my mantra.

    I do believe in this power of the human mind completely. It is the one thing that ties everything together and makes sense of everything the cabal does. And for that reason my intuition tells me that keeping human consciousness suppressed or switched off is the prime reason for the chemtrails.
    Peter Moon the author of the Montauk books speaks as August (13th) as a major biorythm, especially every 20 years. The height of the Montauk Project was on August 13th 1983, also the Philadelphia Experiment in 1943, he also includes the Major blackout in the USA in 2003 into this. (august 14th?) The middle of August is also called dog days, it´s the hottest period and Sirius is the closest to earth and was a special date in old egypt.


    Jim it´s also nice to read about your experience regarding the crucifixion. Radu Cinnamar describes in his book "Mystery of egypt" an experience his "hero" has, using a time machine. It´s also about a UFO wreaking havoc at the crucifixion.

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    I agree with Fred's comments about the birth of tyranny. We should not seek to destroy our enemies. The greatest good should not involve killing or destruction, but rehabilitation. If we are as powerful as you claim, jim, then we should be capable of that at any and all levels.

    The generalizations are also bothering me somewhat... I don't know if it intentional or not, but surely not all Reptilians are negative entities. It seems to me to be tantamount to looking at the actions of the cabal or illuminati, and equating all humans with this sort of behavior.

    I desire to see salvation for all entities, even those who have been 'the worst of the worst'. That is the only 'greatest good' that I can accept as such.
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    ole jim.....my dear jim....

    you said earlier that all u had to do was change their minds...so just change their minds dude, why make them get sick, why kill them.... you said u could change their minds, no?

    surely if LRH is with u he could tell u that.
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    Well...let's change their minds then...let's get on with it...each one of us that chooses to!

    Send it out...demand a 'massive change of mind' directly unto the deceiving creators and controllers of all of this mayhem on Mother Earth!

    Lets each of us step up to the plate and send that out there...clearly and strongly and firmly!

    And let Spirit go, go, go with it!!!

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    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    [...]

    ... the plan the reptilians had was some kind of methods they used to get control of everyone's mind and they had setup all through this galaxy devices that would allow them to change everything into reptilian control ... mind control through out the galaxy ... but the gods, (OTs at the time) were expecting this to happen and hid themselves in a time portal between this time and the future time and were able to continue their work to open up the technology to rehabilitate this galaxy

    [...]

    from here the millions that were sent with no standard memory banks and no reactive mind ... means no recording system ... Natural clears... that don't create picture memory system ... and if processed they would never look into the future because the think would be to look into the past to find what is happening to the person and fix it

    so they have these natural clears that they can not find any past memory because they never looked into the future and if they did they would find nothing because they have no previous lifetime

    anything else you want to know


    jim
    First, the above post was recorded being posted at 08:08 GMT...

    Second, I want to remark that Reptilians have a very fix "think" and are unable to create anything; always the same with no-change as is their fixed hierarchical caste system, ceremonies, rituals, pomp as is their whole society: no-change allowed expected or anticipated...

    Therefore, one only needed to "think" outside of the box to thwart such a society...

    ... hence "thinking in futures" and "thinking big" did it!

    ... because such a "think" wasn't included in Lao Tsu's "Art of War".... posting oneself into the future and waiting for the enemy to arrive in the middle of the set up battlefield... ouch!

    Finally, I too have been had with that one:

    Quote Natural clears... that don't create picture memory system ... and if processed they would never look into the future because the think would be to look into the past to find what is happening to the person and fix it
    If there ever was a thinking outside of the box... that one takes the cake!

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    I agree with Fred's comments about the birth of tyranny. We should not seek to destroy our enemies. The greatest good should not involve killing or destruction, but rehabilitation. If we are as powerful as you claim, jim, then we should be capable of that at any and all levels.

    The generalizations are also bothering me somewhat... I don't know if it intentional or not, but surely not all Reptilians are negative entities. It seems to me to be tantamount to looking at the actions of the cabal or illuminati, and equating all humans with this sort of behavior.

    I desire to see salvation for all entities, even those who have been 'the worst of the worst'. That is the only 'greatest good' that I can accept as such.
    Hello Fred and Freed and Thunder and Padme....wishing you all well!

    I am not speaking for Jim as all of you understand.

    I have been saying for quite some time now that if they keep it up they are going to hurt themselves themselves...with everything they are putting out at us...that massive mirror is being turned on them. I feel it is already taking place in an intense uptick now. Spirit(our spirits) can shine that mirror upon their energy they put out if we simply see it happening once and for all, really see it happening...the massive backfiring can simply be more firmly focused by each of our 'deciding' it to happen and finally turning the tide on all of this.

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    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

    Again with generalizations... I mean no disrespect Amzer-Zo, but how can you possibly know that about the Reptilians? You've encountered them directly? You've met so many of their kind that you are able to make sweeping statements of what they are and are not capable of as a species? If you are referring to some body of written work, there are several who write of many different types/species of Reptilians all with different qualities. There are also those who have described them as highly empathic and kind. There is no reason to believe one account over another. Particularly when you believe in psy-ops... There are so many villainous depictions of those entities. What excludes the possibility that they are actually benevolent and all of this heresay is an attempt by the cabal to instill fear and paranoia regarding this race, to condition us to distrust them if and when they actually make contact?
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    Quote Posted by eaglespirit (here)
    Well...let's change their minds then...let's get on with it...each one of us that chooses to!

    [...]
    Well, ya'll welcome to become "auditors":


    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    In terms of psychopaths, I have addressed the problem in numerous posts: to get rid of them without rehabilitation -- whether jailed for life or executed -- only postpones the problem to the next generation as they, too, come back with a vengeance... since mind-control, brainwashing or implanting all along the past eons have failed to handle the problems and threats they always pose, generations after generations.

    LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    "Soul-less" vs. "ensouled" are dangerous grounds/waters to thread on/in... since "soul-less" has always been the justification for enslaving conquered ethnic groups or cultures because they were "barbarians" or christians or infidels or pagans or goyims or blacks or yellows or reds or blues...

    It's also what has been used to justify the killing of "enemies" and absolve soldiers from the conscientious angst of murdering their fellow men under the "It's all right, they are animals, they don't have a soul" psyop revived by the father of psychiatry, W. Wundt, to get men to go to war...

    Now... what kind of new targets is this old psyop being aimed at this time? The new PLF sheeples? MKultra alters? Overwhelmed souls that became "organic portals"? The ones left holding the bag when entities have done their deeds as Steve Richards puts it? Etc.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    [...]

    Fair enough Amzer Zo, but what if that courtesy has already been extended to any number of us at some point along the way?
    The thing is that, AFAIK, it has never been done before. The usual handling having always been more brainwashings/implantings/memory erasures/etc... as seen with current "treatment" still using ECTs and chemical lobotomies.
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
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    [...]
    Fred,

    It seems that what I wrote is being misunderstood: LRH and others did it with the processes he developed.

    However, that takes some guts to do because, as an auditor, one has to sit there listening to and watching a psycho grinning, laughing and taking pleasure at recounting the kind of gory stories and graphic pictures posted all along this thread [Horus-Ra], without breaking the "Auditor's Code," that would allow the psycho to come out of it.
    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
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    I really want to understand this but I read the post 4 or 5 times, and remained confused... thus my request for clarification.

    Thanks! Chester
    All right, let me rephrase: when one follows the Auditor's Code, the psycho gets out of the incident s/he stuck in. The difficulty is for the auditor to go through "listening to and watching a psycho grinning, laughing and taking pleasure at recounting the kind of gory stories and graphic pictures posted all along this thread" without breaking the "Auditor's Code." Just the thought of wanting to throw the book at the individual is enough to break that "Auditor's code."

    Now, re-read my comment and see if it really was wrongly phrased as in having to sit there without breaking the "Auditor's Code" to allow the psycho to come out of it?

    That's the kind of guy LRH was: being able to audit a psycho to end phenomena having in view the simple arithmetic of "one less psycho doing harm on planet Earth."

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    The "caveat" of changing "their mind" in one fell swoop is that "they" are not taking any responsibility (free will) for it... it is done for them and that has never, ever worked and never, ever will (see Alex Collier and "mentoring" vs. overtaking).

    "They" have to "cognite"/realize, all by their lonesome selves, on having been "wrong" etc... for a genuine, sincere change to take place.

    Hence the need for auditors...

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    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

    Again with generalizations... I mean no disrespect Amzer-Zo, but how can you possibly know that about the Reptilians?

    [...]
    If not, then they are "renegades" and been dumped on a "prison planet' like Earth or sought refuge on one of them (see Alex Collier). However, and however "renegade" they may be and for whatever reason they "renegaded", they still carry that same respect for rituals and caste systems and hierarchy, etc... e.g. the "Greys" and "Mantids" etc... (see Simon Parks)

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    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    In terms of psychopaths, I have addressed the problem in numerous posts: to get rid of them without rehabilitation -- whether jailed for life or executed -- only postpones the problem to the next generation as they, too, come back with a vengeance... since mind-control, brainwashing or implanting all along the past eons have failed to handle the problems and threats they always pose, generations after generations.

    LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?


    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________
    Has it been discussed whether or not ALL sociopaths/psychopaths could be reptilian, either crossbred or step-in/stand-ins/walk-ins ?, if so can they just come, take over someone and go, in and out to serve their purpose? If so, how to directly deal with one when in direct contact with them?.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    The "caveat" .......
    i knew it was to good to b true
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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

    Again with generalizations... I mean no disrespect Amzer-Zo, but how can you possibly know that about the Reptilians? You've encountered them directly? You've met so many of their kind that you are able to make sweeping statements of what they are and are not capable of as a species? If you are referring to some body of written work, there are several who write of many different types/species of Reptilians all with different qualities. There are also those who have described them as highly empathic and kind. There is no reason to believe one account over another. Particularly when you believe in psy-ops... There are so many villainous depictions of those entities. What excludes the possibility that they are actually benevolent and all of this heresay is an attempt by the cabal to instill fear and paranoia regarding this race, to condition us to distrust them if and when they actually make contact?
    You are right, I have read that there is more than one sub-species of reps. Like anything else, good ones and bad ones. Obviously its the bad ones doing the bad "thinks". (things)

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by eaglespirit (here)
    Well...let's change their minds then...let's get on with it...each one of us that chooses to!

    [...]
    Well, ya'll welcome to become "auditors":
    No thank you... but thats kind of you to offer though
    ... but does this then mean that we cant use our minds to change theirs, unless we are auditors?

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    Quick, how much was it again for all the books? :O and do you have a personal account I can send the money to today?

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    You are missing the point since you knee-jerk react as this to be from the "orthodox" C of $.

    There are other avenues than that orthodox C of $ and far less expensive, but you would have to somehow gain control over you jerking knees.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    You are missing the point since you knee-jerk react as this to be from the "othodox" C of $.

    There are other avenues than that orthodox C of $ and far less expensive, but you would have to somehow gain control over you jerking knees.
    Ouch... touch a nerve?

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    Quick, how much was it again for all the books? :O and do you have a personal account I can send the money to today?
    Ha ha ha this made me laugh! ...carry on....

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    Default Re: LRH (L. Ron Hubbard)

    Quote Posted by jiminii
    LRH created a chart called a tone scale ...it basically shows all the different emotional tones we are in ... but it does much more than that .. it shows how much negative charge that is restimulated inside us as compared to how much positive life force energy .. or pure thought ... we use the word theta .that is inside his beingness .... theta .. someone who is pure theta you might say is a very very clear loving person ... entheta is the opposite .. someone in an argument with you is sending you his entheta .. enturbulated thought.
    the scale goes something like this
    40 at the top is serenity of beingness
    30 at the top is postulates ... a person postulates or decides for something to happen like 'make it rain" and it happens if your postulates work your thoughts work same thing
    22 games ... these are not low level games .. it would be a game like managing all the communication on the planet through satellites and etc
    21 fighting ... actually fighting is high on the tone scale ... a kind of bruce lee complete control of everything and winning
    20 action ... same like maybe a football game
    8 exhileration
    4 enthusiasm
    3.5 conservatism
    3.5 interest
    3.0 conservatism
    2.5 boredom
    2.t antagonism
    1.8 pain
    1.5 anger
    1.2 no sympathy
    1.1 covert hostility
    1.0 fear
    0.9 sympathy
    0.8 propitiation
    0.6 grief
    0.375 making amends
    0.06 apathy
    0.0 death
    then there is minus tone levels
    like
    pity
    shame
    blame
    regret
    controling bodies
    protecting bodies
    owning bodies
    approval from bodies
    needing bodies
    worshiping bodies
    and more

    by looking at this chart you will be able to get into communication with someone at any tone level .. a person in grief will not communicate to a person in enthusiasm ... but will communicate to a person near his tone level. so to get in communication with a person in fear you would have to go up a little into covert hostility or down a little into sympathy



    jim

    That reason Why I am not surprised with lack of emphaty in that list.

    My hand feed Beta fishes refuse to eat from my hand again.

    Last edited by christian; 16th May 2013 at 19:23. Reason: fixed quote

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