LRH (L. Ron Hubbard)

[araucaria]

Posted by jiminii (here)

I am just one person ... of course now I am hearing there is weather problems and water coming up ... and I would like to know where .. and if it is some kind of pole shift .. or why it is being caused .. I am holding asia ..I am keeping it stable ... I heard indonesia is sinking ... but now I think I got it stable .. but I don't know where I can get that kind of information ...it is suppressed in the newspapers ... but if I knew what and where I can take a look and expand my space and see if I can fix it ... that is not a guarantee ... if people challenge me .. it is much harder to do . puts me in an effort band ... but if they will let me know where and what things are happening I will try to help

oK .???
Jim

Hi Jiminii

Richard Michael Pasichnyk’s In Defense of Nature offers extensive evidence that over history climate catastrophes are to be seen as nature’s way of dealing with ‘civilization’ when more directly manmade phenomena such as war and epidemics are lacking. Given the current endgame where the planet is shaking off altogether what might be called the ’civilization civilization’, understandably global upheaval is at its peak, and so we can only be eternally grateful to someone who is holding up a whole continent and asking what more can be done. What more can be done is to restore the stability that would make this stopgap measure no longer necessary. I suggest that this will be achieved not by someone ’big’ working top down, but collectively, working bottom up.

In books like Ishmael or Beyond Civilization, Daniel Quinn describes the killer meme of ‘civilization’ in various terms, such as Takers, Hierarchalism, Pyramid builders etc. ‘Lost’ civilizations like the Maya, he says, did not disappear but simply walked away from this model, just as we now need to walk away into what he calls a New Tribal Revolution.

Daniel Quinn teaches that no single person is going to save the world. Rather (if it’s saved at all), it will be saved by millions (and ultimately billions) of us living a new way. A thousand living a new way won’t cause the dominant world order to topple. But that thousand will inspire a hundred thousand, who will inspire a million, who will inspire a billion – and then that world order will begin to look shaky! (p.152)

[jiminii]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)

I am just one person ... of course now I am hearing there is weather problems and water coming up ... and I would like to know where .. and if it is some kind of pole shift .. or why it is being caused .. I am holding asia ..I am keeping it stable ... I heard indonesia is sinking ... but now I think I got it stable .. but I don't know where I can get that kind of information ...it is suppressed in the newspapers ... but if I knew what and where I can take a look and expand my space and see if I can fix it ... that is not a guarantee ... if people challenge me .. it is much harder to do . puts me in an effort band ... but if they will let me know where and what things are happening I will try to help

oK .???
Jim

Hi Jiminii

Richard Michael Pasichnyk’s In Defense of Nature offers extensive evidence that over history climate catastrophes are to be seen as nature’s way of dealing with ‘civilization’ when more directly manmade phenomena such as war and epidemics are lacking. Given the current endgame where the planet is shaking off altogether what might be called the ’civilization civilization’, understandably global upheaval is at its peak, and so we can only be eternally grateful to someone who is holding up a whole continent and asking what more can be done. What more can be done is to restore the stability that would make this stopgap measure no longer necessary. I suggest that this will be achieved not by someone ’big’ working top down, but collectively, working bottom up.

In books like Ishmael or Beyond Civilization, Daniel Quinn describes the killer meme of ‘civilization’ in various terms, such as Takers, Hierarchalism, Pyramid builders etc. ‘Lost’ civilizations like the Maya, he says, did not disappear but simply walked away from this model, just as we now need to walk away into what he calls a New Tribal Revolution.

Daniel Quinn teaches that no single person is going to save the world. Rather (if it’s saved at all), it will be saved by millions (and ultimately billions) of us living a new way. A thousand living a new way won’t cause the dominant world order to topple. But that thousand will inspire a hundred thousand, who will inspire a million, who will inspire a billion – and then that world order will begin to look shaky! (p.152)

that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ... but I don't know how much damage it would do ... if we can get some of the rainbows and crystals ... don't need too many ... they will just look at the idea ... and it will start to happen ... but you have to be exact with postulates don't leave anything out ... like we will do this and this and this .. and no one will get killed and if we need a migration ... we need to decide how we want it to go and not be selfish with it .. gaia needs to clean herself
I see most of europe under water ... but you can decide to keep it in place and have other places go down ...maybe just get a deeper ocean and you want to keep the destruction at a minimum ... we do this ... we got the planet and the people that can let more thetans come down because this will be a training ground ,., you see to a spirit this place is like playing with sand on a beach making castles ... so .. for example ,. if we sink the bottom of the atlantic to allow more space for water than when the poles melt we will still be ok ... or we can sink the pacific to make more space for water all around since the pacific is the least populated ...
what kind of scenario do we want ... then we work it ... believe me ... take out the VIA's and we can do this anyway we want ... this is example
example ... decide the end thing you want ... with no VIA's ... ok pole shift ... ice melted and the land and oceans don' t change ... everything stays the same ... no one gets killed
that is a postulate with no VIA's ... with this body think we think we have to change this to change that to change something else .... no .. put the exact thing you want ... get as many of us intending it we can ... and it just happens ...

that simple

jim

[InCiDeR]

Jim. I love you. With all your thorns and sprawling creativity

[jiminii]

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ...

Edited for rudeness.

peace

the future is whatever you postulate it to be ,.. but so many are implanted already with a future ... as long as they use the recordings of the mind that automatic records they will follow those patterns implanted into them ,.. but since everyone on the planet is in apathy on the idea that they have any power to do any about it ... there is nothing stopping a few powerful beings from doing it ... there will be no counter intention ... look a this site ... so many in apathy about how are we going to handle the cabal ... they are already spinning in ... WHY??? and they are bringing their own demise ... because they have been discovered by a lot of the world ... now they can't get agreement ,.. even with themselves ... they are resisting defeat
which just makes defeat happen faster ... they are the ones that are afraid now ... and that is their demise ... because anything they try to do to stop it now hits back ... they have no control anymore and their words are not heard anymore ,.. so you don't need to think about the cabal anymore ... they will do themselves in without our help ... now we have to decide what you want to do with the planet ,... i haven't been playing with the weather for a long time ... and .. I am being audited ... just don't know who ... it is probably being done from base 2 .. we need to generate a lot of power to do this ... so if you don't believe you are a god ... at least start pretending you are a god ... pretend it until you see your thoughts appear in the physical universe ... when that happens all your doubts start to fade away ... and more stuff starts to happen ... I don't know how many people out there are star children ... could be you .. who knows .... so you have to decide you are cause ... pretend you are god with infinite power and there is nothing stopping you and you are conquering everything .. means you are taking down the enemy .. all enemies and you are repairing the planet ... and nothing is stopping you ... and ... you will start to feel all this these particles around you blowing one after another ... and those particles are all the counter intention in the world ... that is exactly what I felt at Flag Service Org ... all this counter intention hitting my space and blowing and we got highest evers across the boards ..... so multiply infinity by infinity means 2 people doing this what do you think will happen .???? you decide that nothing is stopping you ... and you hold that for the entire week .. until it happens ,.., and the captain of the org gets up and says "I don't think flag has had a week like this ever" ... they never had before and they never had after ... so that is a game all of us can play for the next 6 months to a year or more holding that intention every day .... you will be amazed at what will start to happen ...

that is my best shot

let's get it done

jim

[thunder24]

then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

you wanna do soemthing worth while for the weather....shut down haarp OH YEE god.....shutdown haarp and then we stablize things....

peace

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ...

i thought u knew the future, can't metteya or lrh contact u and guide u to what u need to do? how bout u QUIT FUking with the weather? mk?

peace

the future is whatever you postulate it to be ,.. but so many are implanted already with a future ... as long as they use the recordings of the mind that automatic records they will follow those patterns implanted into them ,.. but since everyone on the planet is in apathy on the idea that they have any power to do any about it ... there is nothing stopping a few powerful beings from doing it ... there will be no counter intention ... look a this site ... so many in apathy about how are we going to handle the cabal ... they are already spinning in ... WHY??? and they are bringing their own demise ... because they have been discovered by a lot of the world ... now they can't get agreement ,.. even with themselves ... they are resisting defeat
which just makes defeat happen faster ... they are the ones that are afraid now ... and that is their demise ... because anything they try to do to stop it now hits back ... they have no control anymore and their words are not heard anymore ,.. so you don't need to think about the cabal anymore ... they will do themselves in without our help ... now we have to decide what you want to do with the planet ,... i haven't been playing with the weather for a long time ... and .. I am being audited ... just don't know who ... it is probably being done from base 2 .. we need to generate a lot of power to do this ... so if you don't believe you are a god ... at least start pretending you are a god ... pretend it until you see your thoughts appear in the physical universe ... when that happens all your doubts start to fade away ... and more stuff starts to happen ... I don't know how many people out there are star children ... could be you .. who knows .... so you have to decide you are cause ... pretend you are god with infinite power and there is nothing stopping you and you are conquering everything .. means you are taking down the enemy .. all enemies and you are repairing the planet ... and nothing is stopping you ... and ... you will start to feel all this these particles around you blowing one after another ... and those particles are all the counter intention in the world ... that is exactly what I felt at Flag Service Org ... all this counter intention hitting my space and blowing and we got highest evers across the boards ..... no times infinity by infinity means 2 people doing this what do you think will happen .???? you decide that nothing is stopping you ... and you hold that for the entire week .. until it happens ,.., and the captain of the org gets up and says "I don't think flag has had a week like this ever" ... they never had before and they never had after ... so that is a game all of us can play for the next 6 months to a year or more holding that intention every day .... you will be amazed at will start to happen ...

that is my best shot

let's get it done

jim

besides, the IRS be auditing everybody on Base 2 dude...

[jiminii]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

you wanna do soemthing worth while for the weather....shut down haarp OH YEE god.....shutdown haarp and then we stablize things....

peace

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ...

peace

the future is whatever you postulate it to be ,.. but so many are implanted already with a future ... as long as they use the recordings of the mind that automatic records they will follow those patterns implanted into them ,.. but since everyone on the planet is in apathy on the idea that they have any power to do any about it ... there is nothing stopping a few powerful beings from doing it ... there will be no counter intention ... look a this site ... so many in apathy about how are we going to handle the cabal ... they are already spinning in ... WHY??? and they are bringing their own demise ... because they have been discovered by a lot of the world ... now they can't get agreement ,.. even with themselves ... they are resisting defeat
which just makes defeat happen faster ... they are the ones that are afraid now ... and that is their demise ... because anything they try to do to stop it now hits back ... they have no control anymore and their words are not heard anymore ,.. so you don't need to think about the cabal anymore ... they will do themselves in without our help ... now we have to decide what you want to do with the planet ,... i haven't been playing with the weather for a long time ... and .. I am being audited ... just don't know who ... it is probably being done from base 2 .. we need to generate a lot of power to do this ... so if you don't believe you are a god ... at least start pretending you are a god ... pretend it until you see your thoughts appear in the physical universe ... when that happens all your doubts start to fade away ... and more stuff starts to happen ... I don't know how many people out there are star children ... could be you .. who knows .... so you have to decide you are cause ... pretend you are god with infinite power and there is nothing stopping you and you are conquering everything .. means you are taking down the enemy .. all enemies and you are repairing the planet ... and nothing is stopping you ... and ... you will start to feel all this these particles around you blowing one after another ... and those particles are all the counter intention in the world ... that is exactly what I felt at Flag Service Org ... all this counter intention hitting my space and blowing and we got highest evers across the boards ..... no times infinity by infinity means 2 people doing this what do you think will happen .???? you decide that nothing is stopping you ... and you hold that for the entire week .. until it happens ,.., and the captain of the org gets up and says "I don't think flag has had a week like this ever" ... they never had before and they never had after ... so that is a game all of us can play for the next 6 months to a year or more holding that intention every day .... you will be amazed at will start to happen ...

that is my best shot

let's get it done

jim

besides, the IRS be auditing everybody on Base 2 dude...

there is no IRS on base 2 ... but it is possible that LRH or one of Metteyya's viewpoints is auditing the star children

jim

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

That's pretty good thunder, remember the Coke bottle scene in "The Gods Must Be Crazy"? The law of unintended consequences...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gCQIGiXf0JA

[Kristin]

Hello there Thunder,

Regardless if you agree or disagree, you are not entitled to be unpleasant to others here. I've deleted your above post with reason stated.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Bill Ryan]

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A brief note about intending outcomes. This applies to any area of life -- from personal relationships to global weather patterns.

One can 'intend' sun, rain, or for someone to fall in love with you. Many shamans have these abilities, and this is nothing new on this planet.

The wise way to do this is to also intend that the outcome is in balance, with everyone involved benefiting. That has to be incorporated in the intention.

If those checks and balances are built in -- then we can be a little more confident in using our abilities without running the risk of messing things up in another area we'd not thought about or noticed.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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A brief note about intending outcomes. This applies to any area of life -- from personal relationships to global weather patterns.

One can 'intend' sun, rain, or for someone to fall in love with you. Many shamans have these abilities, and this is nothing new on this planet.

The wise way to do this is to also intend that the outcome is in balance, with everyone involved benefiting. That has to be incorporated in the intention.

If those checks and balances are built in -- then we can be a little more confident in using our abilities without running the risk of messing things up in another area we'd not thought about or noticed.

Couldn't agree more Bill. As the old saying goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". The best, and quite possibly the only responsible way to "interfere" with the workings of Creation we see around us (and the workings we don't see), is to intend the highest possible outcome for ALL concerned. Of course it's not very popular to say the following, but ALL concerned necessarily includes the "baddies" as well.

None of the talk here (that I've seen) of intentions has even hinted at any of this. Thus mine and others' concerns.

Cheers,
Fred

[Christine]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

you wanna do soemthing worth while for the weather....shut down haarp OH YEE god.....shutdown haarp and then we stablize things....

peace

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ...

i thought u knew the future, can't metteya or lrh contact u and guide u to what u need to do? how bout u QUIT FUking with the weather? mk?

peace

the future is whatever you postulate it to be ,.. but so many are implanted already with a future ... as long as they use the recordings of the mind that automatic records they will follow those patterns implanted into them ,.. but since everyone on the planet is in apathy on the idea that they have any power to do any about it ... there is nothing stopping a few powerful beings from doing it ... there will be no counter intention ... look a this site ... so many in apathy about how are we going to handle the cabal ... they are already spinning in ... WHY??? and they are bringing their own demise ... because they have been discovered by a lot of the world ... now they can't get agreement ,.. even with themselves ... they are resisting defeat
which just makes defeat happen faster ... they are the ones that are afraid now ... and that is their demise ... because anything they try to do to stop it now hits back ... they have no control anymore and their words are not heard anymore ,.. so you don't need to think about the cabal anymore ... they will do themselves in without our help ... now we have to decide what you want to do with the planet ,... i haven't been playing with the weather for a long time ... and .. I am being audited ... just don't know who ... it is probably being done from base 2 .. we need to generate a lot of power to do this ... so if you don't believe you are a god ... at least start pretending you are a god ... pretend it until you see your thoughts appear in the physical universe ... when that happens all your doubts start to fade away ... and more stuff starts to happen ... I don't know how many people out there are star children ... could be you .. who knows .... so you have to decide you are cause ... pretend you are god with infinite power and there is nothing stopping you and you are conquering everything .. means you are taking down the enemy .. all enemies and you are repairing the planet ... and nothing is stopping you ... and ... you will start to feel all this these particles around you blowing one after another ... and those particles are all the counter intention in the world ... that is exactly what I felt at Flag Service Org ... all this counter intention hitting my space and blowing and we got highest evers across the boards ..... no times infinity by infinity means 2 people doing this what do you think will happen .???? you decide that nothing is stopping you ... and you hold that for the entire week .. until it happens ,.., and the captain of the org gets up and says "I don't think flag has had a week like this ever" ... they never had before and they never had after ... so that is a game all of us can play for the next 6 months to a year or more holding that intention every day .... you will be amazed at will start to happen ...

that is my best shot

let's get it done

jim

besides, the IRS be auditing everybody on Base 2 dude...

Christine steps in....

There is a message between the lines here. Can you see it?

Others (masters, star children, chanellers, and Avalon members) are giving us the same message and we hear the words and forget the content.

Why are we so afraid to accept our power? What is implanted into our psyche that makes us run to some "Supreme Being (God)" for advice and comfort when it is within us to know all along. It is the most difficult initiation of all is to accept that YOU are the one who is creating your reality. It does imply RESPONSIBILITY. So when jiminii says that it is hard being him, I would join him in that sentiment.

We create unconsciously, subliminally and constantly.

Thunder24, do you see the irony of your statement, on one hand you acknowledge jiminii’s claims that he can change weather by telling him to knock it off and on the other hand you discard that he has the force to do any such thing.

To not derail the thread I will post my story later, it is the result that is in context here.

I was standing on a bluff overlooking the Pacific ocean in Mexico, my grief, despair and fury was so great that to calm myself I looked out over the ocean. It was a beautiful blue sky day and the water was sparkling and calm. What transpired before my eyes was that a water funnel formed some distant off shore, as I watched in amazement a dark cloud formed in the sky as the water was sucked into it … and then violently shaking my tears came, pouring out all the pent up emotion. Within a half hour the sky darkened and filled with clouds and it poured rain for three hours straight.

It has never left my consciousness to see with all my five senses how powerful an emotion can be. This hasn’t happened again in quite that dramatic of a way but I learned a lesson and it has stayed with me.

Listen to the message…. not the messenger.

Accept who you are.

P.S. I just want to humbly add here that there are soooo many on Avalon who have shared their stories publicly and in private, who have abilities that they are trying to understand, who have been literally smashed to keep them from sharing their stories... to fulfilling their mission. I feel blessed to be here in such stellar company.

[araucaria]

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ... but I don't know how much damage it would do ... if we can get some of the rainbows and crystals ... don't need too many ... they will just look at the idea ... and it will start to happen ... but you have to be exact with postulates don't leave anything out ... like we will do this and this and this .. and no one will get killed and if we need a migration ... we need to decide how we want it to go and not be selfish with it .. gaia needs to clean herself
I see most of europe under water ... but you can decide to keep it in place and have other places go down ...maybe just get a deeper ocean and you want to keep the destruction at a minimum ... we do this ... we got the planet and the people that can let more thetans come down because this will be a training ground ,., you see to a spirit this place is like playing with sand on a beach making castles ... so .. for example ,. if we sink the bottom of the atlantic to allow more space for water than when the poles melt we will still be ok ... or we can sink the pacific to make more space for water all around since the pacific is the least populated ...
what kind of scenario do we want ... then we work it ... believe me ... take out the VIA's and we can do this anyway we want ... this is example
example ... decide the end thing you want ... with no VIA's ... ok pole shift ... ice melted and the land and oceans don' t change ... everything stays the same ... no one gets killed
that is a postulate with no VIA's ... with this body think we think we have to change this to change that to change something else .... no .. put the exact thing you want ... get as many of us intending it we can ... and it just happens ...

that simple

jim

Thanks for that Jim. If we are looking for inventive things to do with large amounts of water, then the work of Gerald Pollack, which I only discovered on the forum the other day, would surely have a major role to play:

Posted by Paul (here)
Almost unmentioned (except for here and here) previously on this forum, I just came across the work of Gerald H. Pollack, who has been researching, studying and teaching about the structure of water and its roles in living molecules for decades now.

He has some more results out, which he presented in a talk at the Electric Universe 2013 conference, in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Jan 3-6, 2013:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JnGCMQ8TJ_g

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hqHWueBp23c

With this he also has another book out, available from the publisher at The Fourth Phase of Water Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor, or from Amazon here.

If you go to the above publishers link, you can find some sample chapters available to read for free in this pdf: The Fourth Phase of Water: Sample Chapters.

Pollack demonstrates the properties of the fourth phase of water with a variety of easily understood and replicated science experiments. He has a knack for explaining things in a way that is a pleasure to listen to or read, and that makes good sense.

Here is an image from the Sample Chapters pdf linked above, showing the structure of this fourth phase of water. "EZ" stands for "Exclusion Zone", the fourth phase of water, so named because most water soluble compounds are excluded from water in this phase.

It turns out that water has a much more interesting role in life than traditional chemistry recognizes.

Take a look - this is good stuff!

The basic premise is that the fourth state of water is a clean source of energy. In other words, it converts solar energy into electrical energy and purifies (desalinates) the water as well. So the energy for desalination is already there. It just needs doing. Now tell me who on this planet couldn’t use a bit more clean water? Not many: it has been said that future wars would be fought over this so-called commodity as it becomes rarer. It has probably happened already.

The importance of extremely cheap large-scale desalination in my opinion cannot be overstated. We live on a planet where, as Coleridge says, we have ‘water water everywhere, nor any drop to drink’. It would be utterly crazy for us all to drown in the stuff. And as a corollary, this has got to be the one problem we can find a solution to (pun not intended).

Here are a couple of ideas off the top of my head. There are various sites around the world that could accommodate preferably fresh water. One is the Qattara Depression in Libya, a huge desert area close to the Mediterranean and below sea level. Flooding that wouldn’t even require pumping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression

There have already been projects to do this, one being a peace-keeping initiative of… the CIA. Be that as it may, if we do get rising sea levels, the area will probably fill up naturally.

Then there’s the Aral Sea, a huge lake that has almost completely dried up owing to human water consumption diverting the rivers. I’d like to see this and other water diversion schemes reversed by desalination programs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

Then we have all the deserted regions of the world. They talk about terraforming Mars: why don’t we get some practice by terraforming Earth? Creeping desertification has been much more insidious than the destruction of tropical rainforests, and just as devastating. Reversing the one would also reverse the other, because if people really do need the Amazon basin as extra land for stock farming, then there would be plenty of space to do this in the former Sahara and other deserts. Alternatively, new tropical forests could be planted there.

Projects like these may seem like a drop in the ocean (pun intended ) compared with possible rising sea levels. However they have the advantage of setting millions to work doing the sort of environmentally-sensitive things that can avoid or attenuate planetary upheavals such as pole shifts or catastrophic weather in the first place. Also, reducing the harshness of local climates should make for more clement conditions everywhere, even at the poles.

Alternatively, if you subscribe to the expanding Earth theory, you might like to consider taking her belt out a notch or two. It shouldn’t take much to keep all that water in place.

[jiminii]

Posted by Christine (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)
then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

you wanna do soemthing worth while for the weather....shut down haarp OH YEE god.....shutdown haarp and then we stablize things....

peace

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
that is what I am wondering ... do we let the pole shift happen and do it in a way that doesn't create tsnamiis .. I can keep the core cooler .. so we don't get too much earthquakes ... and volcanoes ... but what is the greatest good ... let the planet align like it wants to .... i need some good ideas ... if we do that the ice will melt and the water will come up maybe 675 feet ... but it will take some years ... then this cabal using HAARP to melt greenland to speed it up I can literally cool the planet too ...

i thought u knew the future, can't metteya or lrh contact u and guide u to what u need to do? how bout u QUIT FUking with the weather? mk?

peace

the future is whatever you postulate it to be ,.. but so many are implanted already with a future ... as long as they use the recordings of the mind that automatic records they will follow those patterns implanted into them ,.. but since everyone on the planet is in apathy on the idea that they have any power to do any about it ... there is nothing stopping a few powerful beings from doing it ... there will be no counter intention ... look a this site ... so many in apathy about how are we going to handle the cabal ... they are already spinning in ... WHY??? and they are bringing their own demise ... because they have been discovered by a lot of the world ... now they can't get agreement ,.. even with themselves ... they are resisting defeat
which just makes defeat happen faster ... they are the ones that are afraid now ... and that is their demise ... because anything they try to do to stop it now hits back ... they have no control anymore and their words are not heard anymore ,.. so you don't need to think about the cabal anymore ... they will do themselves in without our help ... now we have to decide what you want to do with the planet ,... i haven't been playing with the weather for a long time ... and .. I am being audited ... just don't know who ... it is probably being done from base 2 .. we need to generate a lot of power to do this ... so if you don't believe you are a god ... at least start pretending you are a god ... pretend it until you see your thoughts appear in the physical universe ... when that happens all your doubts start to fade away ... and more stuff starts to happen ... I don't know how many people out there are star children ... could be you .. who knows .... so you have to decide you are cause ... pretend you are god with infinite power and there is nothing stopping you and you are conquering everything .. means you are taking down the enemy .. all enemies and you are repairing the planet ... and nothing is stopping you ... and ... you will start to feel all this these particles around you blowing one after another ... and those particles are all the counter intention in the world ... that is exactly what I felt at Flag Service Org ... all this counter intention hitting my space and blowing and we got highest evers across the boards ..... no times infinity by infinity means 2 people doing this what do you think will happen .???? you decide that nothing is stopping you ... and you hold that for the entire week .. until it happens ,.., and the captain of the org gets up and says "I don't think flag has had a week like this ever" ... they never had before and they never had after ... so that is a game all of us can play for the next 6 months to a year or more holding that intention every day .... you will be amazed at will start to happen ...

that is my best shot

let's get it done

jim

besides, the IRS be auditing everybody on Base 2 dude...

Christine steps in....

There is a message between the lines here. Can you see it?

Others (masters, star children, chanellers, and Avalon members) are giving us the same message and we hear the words and forget the content.

Why are we so afraid to accept our power? What is implanted into our psyche that makes us run to some "Supreme Being (God)" for advice and comfort when it is within us to know all along. It is the most difficult initiation of all is to accept that YOU are the one who is creating your reality. It does imply RESPONSIBILITY. So when jiminii says that it is hard being him, I would join him in that sentiment.

We create unconsciously, subliminally and constantly.

Thunder24, do you see the irony of your statement, on one hand you acknowledge jiminii’s claims that he can change weather by telling him to knock it off and on the other hand you discard that he has the force to do any such thing.

To not derail the thread I will post my story later, it is the result that is in context here.

I was standing on a bluff overlooking the Pacific ocean in Mexico, my grief, despair and fury was so great that to calm myself I looked out over the ocean. It was a beautiful blue sky day and the water was sparkling and calm. What transpired before my eyes was that a water funnel formed some distant off shore, as I watched in amazement a dark cloud formed in the sky as the water was sucked into it … and then violently shaking my tears came, pouring out all the pent up emotion. Within a half hour the sky darkened and filled with clouds and it poured rain for three hours straight.

It has never left my consciousness to see with all my five senses how powerful an emotion can be. This hasn’t happened again in quite that dramatic of a way but I learned a lesson and it has stayed with me.

Listen to the message…. not the messenger.

Accept who you are.

P.S. I just want to humbly add here that there are soooo many on Avalon who have shared their stories publicly and in private, who have abilities that they are trying to understand, who have been literally smashed to keep them from sharing their stories... to fulfilling their mission. I feel blessed to be here in such stellar company.

can I add the poem of one of my songs?

there is a planet shades of a flower
and the flower's holding sweet scents of spring
and a breath of life in the morning's hour
and in evenings mist colors fill the sea
and peace seals the night in the stars tasty showers
planet of a flower

in a ruined shake is an old time miller
and he thinks of times he used the seed
but the times have past for his friend the tiller
and his work is done never to return
and he fades away deep in thoughts for his lover
planet of a flower

kisses touch the old and lonely
bringing dreams of distant land
some will seek and some will follow
by the sea side waves that tower
planet of a flower

now the planets secret lies in its keeper
and the keepers heart is pure as gold
and in space of mind brings on the reaper
who shares his seed with his friendly smile
and the planet lost in time
sings of a flower

[CdnSirian]

Re intentions, discussed above by Bill R., a phrase commonly used is "With good for all and harm to no one"...puts the boundaries of your intention on your creative thought.

Paul I've been saying that for years! (not here). Terra-form Earth! The possibilities are huge.

[araucaria]

Posted by jiminii (here)

can I add the poem of one of my songs?

there is a planet shades of a flower
and the flower's holding sweet scents of spring
and a breath of life in the morning's hour
and in evenings mist colors fill the sea
and peace seals the night in the stars tasty showers
planet of a flower

in a ruined shake is an old time miller
and he thinks of times he used the seed
but the times have past for his friend the tiller
and his work is done never to return
and he fades away deep in thoughts for his lover
planet of a flower

kisses touch the old and lonely
bringing dreams of distant land
some will seek and some will follow
by the sea side waves that tower
planet of a flower

now the planets secret lies in its keeper
and the keepers heart is pure as gold
and in space of mind brings on the reaper
who shares his seed with his friendly smile
and the planet lost in time
sings of a flower

Wow! Can we have the soundtrack please Jim?

[Hervé]

Hi jim, again:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
[...]

... keep that pole shift from happening to a later date ...

jim

Hi jim,

Where is that idea of a pole shift coming from?

And what kind of pole shift? Magnetic inversion? Earth crust slipping over mantle (and what would cause that)? Earth rotation axis shifting from current 23 degrees with respect to ecliptic (and what would cause that)?

Because...

There is free will intention and then there is mind-controlled, implanted intention (the so-called "balance").

MSM, but mostly the alternative media, have been pounding on their readers various schemes of catastrophes for years now.

So, let me try to explain this with the example of the "pole shift".

For most of the population (~80%) the instant reaction is "We don't want that!" Protesting such an occurrence to their gods via prayers, thoughts, visualizations, etc... hence the focus is on "protesting" such an event instead of on keeping "creating" our space-time with a non-event.

The funneling of a population focus in a certain direction is fully intended by TPTB and is an application of "black magic," "Black Dianetics" and "Reverse Scientology"... triggering wholesale implant engrams; not the least of which is the R6 implant:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Although it’s a fairly simple implant but it was quite effective in lousing people up because it interrupted them from creating what they would have created and took away what mock-ups that he did have and it stop the cycle and it put something there that is unwanted and so when they tried to create, they created it [the “unwanted”]. They fixed his attention by “protest.”

[...]

Not difficult to make sensitive individuals, with some clout over their community -- local or web wide, have "visions" of catastrophes -- via electronic telepathy or whatever tech of brain heterodyning they have -- and have those "visions" match past catastrophes' environments and conditions (especially R6).

Hence, such a "pole shift," instead of being a non-existent "natural" one, becomes a "man made" one via humanity's creative, "collective" unconscious.

See?

[Hervé]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
then let God give you some wisdom... quit it with the weaather bull crap...you could b accused of murder in oklahoma.... you mess with weather in asia, you don't think it affects other places in the world....? that dang elephant sneezed... get it?

you wanna do soemthing worth while for the weather....shut down haarp OH YEE god.....shutdown haarp and then we stablize things....

peace

[...] besides, the IRS be auditing everybody on Base 2 dude...

I guess it's time to sue the US gov. to have allowed Katrina, Sandy, etc to happen:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

What was definitely NOT used:


[...]

Groningen, zondag 6 februari 2011
Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960's during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IerzBEJiz3A

In this exclusive interview, Livingston explains how for decades the US government has had the power to both lessen and increase the severity of adverse weather for their own purposes.

Dr. Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment. "My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he stated.

Dr. Livingston presents evidence from the Stanford research Institute, who were brought into Project Storm Fury (a weather control program) in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life. Four decades later and Livingston exposes how the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina could have been greatly minimized but was allowed to fully impact Gulf states for political reasons.

Having personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes, Livingston remarks that he was "disgusted" by the failure to lessen the impact of Katrina. Livingston's revelations that weather control has been a decades long program in which the US government has been deeply involved are particularly alarming given the abundant modern-day evidence of how chemtrails are being used to warp our environment in a secret geoengineering plot that threatens a myriad of unknown human health and ecological consequences.
************************************************************

... and so was Sandy allowed to strike at the maximum cranked up power that could be mustered to re-instilled some trust into the "medias"... "When we tell you to evacuate: just do it!"

The following statement:

Project Storm Fury [...] stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life.

... carries with it the terrible corollary that, by the same token, they also know what starts or amplifies a storm into a hurricane... just pure, practical logic!

Couple that with the report that military planes were flying around at the time Sandy hit the coast... along with the fact that storms are Navy's and Air Force's allies in demoralizing the "enemy" in any wars since Vietnam... who's the enemy now?

Edit:

Forgot to tie in that "Halloween" is the second in rank in the satanic calendar for sacrificial rituals...

Edit II:

This link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKl9...layer_embedded

[araucaria]

Talking of rogue hurricanes, cf. Hurricane Erin off New York on September 11 2001 (Judy Wood, Where did the towers go?).

The first I heard of weather control was in 1970 with reference to Burgundy wine growers protecting their crop.

[Flash]

The first I heard of weather control was in late sixties, when my grand father and other farmer from his region were marching on the Quebec parliament to demand a stop to cloud seeding, since they had been wet for 3 years and could not have any crop. They were hearing/seeing the planes seeding the clouds.

[turiya]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Hi jim, again:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
[...]
... keep that pole shift from happening to a later date ...
jim

Hi jim,

Where is that idea of a pole shift coming from?

And what kind of pole shift? Magnetic inversion? Earth crust slipping over mantle (and what would cause that)? Earth rotation axis shifting from current 23 degrees with respect to ecliptic (and what would cause that)?

Because...
There is free will intention and then there is mind-controlled, implanted intention (the so-called "balance").
MSM, but mostly the alternative media, have been pounding on their readers various schemes of catastrophes for years now.

So, let me try to explain this with the example of the "pole shift".
For most of the population (~80%) the instant reaction is "We don't want that!" Protesting such an occurrence to their gods via prayers, thoughts, visualizations, etc... hence the focus is on "protesting" such an event instead of on keeping "creating" our space-time with a non-event.

The funneling of a population focus in a certain direction is fully intended by TPTB and is an application of "black magic," "Black Dianetics" and "Reverse Scientology"... triggering wholesale implant engrams; not the least of which is the R6 implant:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Although it’s a fairly simple implant but it was quite effective in lousing people up because it interrupted them from creating what they would have created and took away what mock-ups that he did have and it stop the cycle and it put something there that is unwanted and so when they tried to create, they created it [the “unwanted”]. They fixed his attention by “protest.”

[...]

Not difficult to make sensitive individuals, with some clout over their community -- local or web wide, have "visions" of catastrophes -- via electronic telepathy or whatever tech of brain heterodyning they have -- and have those "visions" match past catastrophes' environments and conditions (especially R6).

Hence, such a "pole shift," instead of being a non-existent "natural" one, becomes a "man made" one via humanity's creative, "collective" unconscious.
See?

Pole Shift
Looking again @ what Chris Thomas has to say in regard to this:

It does seem to be a human trait that we will tinker with things we do not fully understand and cause far greater problems than if we had left well enough alone.

[...]

There is also a new planet within the solar system. This is one of the four planetary consciousnesses that caused all of the damage three and a half million years ago when they decided to leave the solar system. This is the planet that was located between Venus and Earth. NASA has been plotting the course of this planet for some time and has chistened it Planet X. Its real name is Sedna.

The planet is currently in its consciousness form. That is, it does not have any physical density, just its soul energy. It is not yet decided whether it will take on physical density and become a 'whole' planet again - another potential change [that is on the way]. It has moved back into its old position to try to help the Earth regain its original vertical axis by adding its gravitational pull to help the Earth pull itself upright. The Earth's axis has already returned to vertical, in an energy sense: it now needs to follow the energy with the physical. This should be achieved [possibly quite soon].
The Universal Soul by Chris Thomas (p105-109)

turiya