Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Bill Ryan]

More.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83846
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83848
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https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/87100

[SilentFeathers]

Yes, things are now happening at a high rate of speed!.... It doesn't seem real, seems like a bad dream!

The only thing I can see that happened today that wasn't a complete disaster is that Biden made it on Air Force 1 this evening without falling up the stairs.

[Bill Ryan]

From Maria Zakharova.

The translated text:

I am following the news from the Middle East with horror.
I remember the thesis repeatedly voiced by Obama that, thanks to American policy, the world has become much safer.
Now we all see how much.

https://t.me/MariaVladimirovnaZakharova/6445

[norman]

I don't know a way to say this that won't sound crass and distasteful to someone but I have to mention it, maybe this thread is the wrong place though.

Gaza was the world's first 15 minute city.

[shaberon]

Posted by norman (here)
I wonder where the original Palestinian 'jews' went to.

Iran.

Assyria destroyed Israel and the Lost Tribes went to the Caucasus becoming the Mountan Jews.


The smaller area of Judea was taken by Babylon into Captivity. They were released and returned by Cyrus the Great, the Messiah.

Restored Judea was then overrun and miscegenated by Edom.

At that point, yes, Judeans essentially became Edomites. What is worse, at least, from their own perspective of ritual cleanliness, losing their sacred grounds and so forth, Judaism became Edomism.

So, yes--ancient Israel from King Saul had a religion with Psalms and some Prophets, which cannot be determined to resemble the mixture that comes back from Captivity, plus Ezra's redactions during the Second Temple, and whatever the Edomites may have caused. Then the staggering influence of Pharisees and Sadducees.

They were already overhauled with numerous beliefs about a New Messiah, before considering how the Romans wanted to use religion to defray rebellions.

Notice the original answer was Debt Jubilee, and the Roman answer is suppression by mental manipulation.

What we are dealing with is the remnants of Roman statecraft.

Whole Europe was converted violently into their one-book foreign language church.

Torah at least has some ancient traditional roots, and, I think, can be "restored" by scrubbing off various Rabbinical interpretations. The Roman thing or New Testament is propaganda from its inception. Yet it carries support for the "Jewish problem" by relying on the previous, even though its actual teaching is that the Jews deserve no sympathy because they refused the real Messiah. It is only "Protestant denominations" that opened the door for "Judeo-Christianity", and now, "Catholic Zionist" is another nonsensical revision that makes even less sense.

Gaza was once a thriving cosmopolitan haven where Jews, Greeks, pagans, and any other kind of group all worked together.

This actually was normal in just about every Mediterranean area we can trace.

The Hebrew and Arabic languages can only be detected from about 1,000 B. C. E., as branches of Phoenician, which is more or less the alphabet we are currently typing in (again "Romanized"). All of that is "Semitic", a language group, not a "race".


Since Zionism is British statecraft, it does not have any origin in Khazaria, the closest thing being drift from the Frankist school from Poland, which perhaps was more influential around Frankfurt, Germany. The "Jewish problem" in Freemasonry is this same issue:

"Freemasonry" is a Christian edifice.

This same controversy arose--it was unfair to block the Jews out of it, but, of course, the mainstream Christian view was to block Jews out of everything, except butchery, goldsmithing, and finance. European law only allowed them to practice about six professions, and would not accept usury practiced on other Christians, so the mixture of Jews and finance has nothing to do with them personally.

It is only post-Napoleon that this door opened. So, it would be correct that a Frankfurt Rothschild entered Freemasonry around 1815. He was not allowed to vote in Lodge affairs. The idea of Jewish Freemasonry is then only subsequent to this, and mostly in England, and is very much a backburner to how the Bank of England brought the Bank of Prussia into its "system". Prussian Bank became the Reichsbank, and the U. S. Fed is a nearly to-the-letter replica of the Reichsbank.

There isn't a very Jewish hand stirring that pot.

As to the Jews of post-Roman Palestine, I do not know about that specifically. Obsession with bloodlines is such a warped, distorted view, I have no idea who came up with that, or who would care about it.

[Bill Ryan]

A standalone further update. (For anyone just visiting this thread after even a short time away, do see this combined report post #560 at the foot of the previous page. All hell is breaking loose.)

Look at this. If those people break into the US embassy, they'll kill everyone there.

https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/40479

The text:

People move towards the US Embassy in Lebanon after an attack on a hospital in the Gaza Strip.
Approximately one hundred thousand (!) people are reported.

[Bill Ryan]

The black flag is flying over Iran's Imam Reza shrine — for the first time in history.

As best I understand, this is a call for the formation of a Muslim army to march on Jerusalem.

The text:

A black flag is raised over Imam Reza shrine in Iran for first time in history. Symbolism in Islamic historic tradition: "When the black flags come from Khorasan (Persia/Central Asia) go to them, even if you have to crawl on snow, among them is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi"

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...11995074576725

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The black flag is flying over Iran's Imam Reza shrine — for the first time in history.

As best I understand, this is a call for the formation of a Muslim army to march on Jerusalem.

The text:

A black flag is raised over Imam Reza shrine in Iran for first time in history. Symbolism in Islamic historic tradition: "When the black flags come from Khorasan (Persia/Central Asia) go to them, even if you have to crawl on snow, among them is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi"

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...11995074576725

This is really bad. Israel (and the US) seem trapped. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Israel is in danger of being annihilated no matter what they do. The US and Israel can NOT take on the whole middle east and then some.
This is the closest I've ever seen WW3 in my lifetime.

[shaberon]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
This Hindutva/Zionism alliance against Islam may give the West the opportunity for breakup attempts against the cohesion of the (new) BRICS countries..

It is a disturbing marriage of minds.

What should be obvious from the current scenario is that:


Israel has no allies.


On the one hand, India might fairly ask why there is Islam present in it at all, which is:


Conquest.


The actual Hindutva is so much bigger and far older than Zionism, that we could say the ongoing Israeli problem amounts to Intro 101 for something "similar" within India, which just happens to be mostly self-contained, and originally and currently aimed at "lower Indians", with Islam and Judaism only relatively recently adding their own spice to the complexity.

Indian Thomasene Christianity happens to be far closer to the Gospel era than anything in the west. It may not be big, but, I am unaware of it ever being a "problem".

In the modern sense, India can barely be said to have an ideological conjunction with Russia, and so BRICS is a bit more of a geo-political reality of national interests, i. e., commercial needs. I was recently told the nice Russian supermarkets are stocked with Indian rice. That may be the extent of it.

Would it be too adventurous to speculate that devil faces will be discovered in the explosion clouds created by Hamas?

It is a bit fanciful. I have known of someone who was credited with the ability to make the Devil's Face appear.

Buddhists can't do it. One Tibetan said he tried everything, such as reciting the Lord's Prayer backwards, and nothing happened. We have no connection to this foreign invention, nor does such a thing exist outside of the literary caprices of those who wish it to be so.

I saw the one in the 9/11 videos, and, if anyone is taking that seriously, you are perceiving reality in some artificial mode. But, yes, it is true that many do.

In our view, attributing evil to some grand cosmic force is like a sin shifting the responsibility away from man himself. The "devil" is a broken human being, and the disembodied ghosts therefrom. But, as Anton LaVey says, the devil is the greatest friend the church ever had, as he keeps it in business. When Eskimos were told that hell was a lake of fire, they enthusiastically asked, how do we get there?


So, of course, the current affairs are quite much like the setting for Dajjal or Anti-Christ, which I expect to be preached from the rooftops any minute now. Such Millennial beliefs are of course a Catholic pet that has arisen in numerous strands, much like the Messiah.

Those things are not present in either the basic Jewish or Indian scriptures, and only spill forth in selected commentaries of later times.






As the mop flops:


Abbas: I agreed with Jordan and Egypt to cancel the summit with US’ Biden after the Hospital attack

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council, denounces the assault on Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza as a war crime, holding the United States accountable

In Iraq, a large number of protesters also gathered in Baghdad, voicing a firm condemnation of the Zionist crime and underlining readiness to back the Palestinian resistance.

In Tunisia, the protesters declared support to the Palestinian people, denouncing the Israeli massacre in Gaza.

In Jordan, protesters attacked the Israeli embassy, attempting to set it on fire.

[Satori]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The black flag is flying over Iran's Imam Reza shrine — for the first time in history.

As best I understand, this is a call for the formation of a Muslim army to march on Jerusalem.

The text:

A black flag is raised over Imam Reza shrine in Iran for first time in history. Symbolism in Islamic historic tradition: "When the black flags come from Khorasan (Persia/Central Asia) go to them, even if you have to crawl on snow, among them is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi"

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...11995074576725

This report literally caused my body to involuntarily wince and shiver for a brief moment. “The black flag”…? That sounds ominous.

[shaberon]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
This is really bad. Israel (and the US) seem trapped. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Israel is in danger of being annihilated no matter what they do. The US and Israel can NOT take on the whole middle east and then some.
This is the closest I've ever seen WW3 in my lifetime.

Yes, they are done. According to the United Nations and Brazil:

The United Nations human rights office has said Israel’s brutal blockade of the Palestinian enclave of Gaza, combined with the evacuation order and forcible transfer of civilians, could amount to a crime against humanity.

Spokesperson Ravina Shamdasani said in the Swiss city of Geneva on Tuesday that the forced relocation of civilians has been classed as a crime against humanity and is punishable by the International Criminal Court (ICC).



Lula da Silva, for his part, approved of the Iranian president’s stance on the situation in Gaza and the need to immediately stop the attacks on the besieged area, establish a ceasefire and reopen the crossings for humanitarian aid and treatment of the injured.

The Brazilian president censured as “unacceptable” the occupying regime’s policy of forcibly relocating the residents of Gaza and its attacks on Palestinian women and children as well as their schools and hospitals.

Zion was an act of force, being removed by another act of force, no surprises here.

The flag, per se, is normal:


The holy shrines of Imam Reza (AS) in Mashhad, northeastern Iran, and his brother Ahmad bin Mousa (AS), known as Shah Cherag, in Shiraz, southern Iran, hoisted black flags on the occasion of Muharram, the month of mourning for Imam Hussain's (AS) martyrdom.

More than 1,300 years ago, in 61 AH, Imam Hussein (AS), a grandson of Islam's Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and his 72 companions were martyred in the Battle of Karbala, in southern Iraq, after fighting courageously for justice against the much larger army of the Umayyad caliph, Yazid I.

[norman]

Eva2 posted this in the "Quotes" thread a couple of days ago. I assume it's true and I assume everyone reading this thread needs to see it.

Posted by Eva2 (here)
America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up and sell it off, piece by piece, until there is nothing left but the world's biggest welfare state that we will create and control.

This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them, very slowly.

Benjamin Netanyahu
Recorded at Finks Bar
Jerusalem 1990

[Dorjezigzag]

The black flag is flying over Iran's Imam Reza shrine — for the first time in history.

Pretty sure this happened last year so not the first time

Saturday July 30, 2022

Black flag has been raised over Imam Reza's (AS) holy shrine in Iran concurrent with the start of Muharram mourning ceremonies.

This is a traditional symbol of mourning in Islam and is done to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (AS), the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).


The black flag will remain raised until the end of the Islamic mourning months of Muharram and Safar.

The mourning ceremonies for the third Shia Imam culminate on the Day of Ashura which marks martyrdom anniversary of Imam Hussein (AS).

https://en.ifilmtv.ir/News/Content/40217/

[Rizotto]

Most PA members probably know this already, but it needs to be said again and again. This terrible bloody conflict isn't so much about Muslim vs Jews. It's about the thousands years old evil cabal run by the deep state that seeks world control, and right now they don't like at all that the BRICS are throwing an economic (i.e. peaceful) monkey wrench into their hate machine. So they are trying to raise conflicts as hard as they can. Be aware: they're going to get Isrealis killed as much as Palestinians. They very much want to start a war with Iran, and they'll probably try and use nukes.

No one is immune to hate. The first and best antidote is to stay aware of the manipulation we're being put through.

Israel is descending into CIVIL WAR and Netanyahu knows it | Redacted News

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r3SQNvZ-Iy8

[Inversion]

Posted by Inversion (here)
Juan O Savin points the finger at the UK, the bankers and bloodlines in Europe for the actions in the Middle East. He said, "Who stands to gain?" He also said, "What is the largest country in the world?" The answer is the British Commonwealth.

The Rumble video can't be located on their site which is a reoccurring theme with some of her videos. I can't get the video code, so here's the link to Kerry's site: video running time 14:39

Kent Dunn said, "Israel is the name of the Black Sun."

The Urantia Book

JERUSEM, the headquarters of Satania, is an average capital of a local system, and aside from numerous irregularities occasioned by the Lucifer rebellion and the bestowal of Michael on Urantia, it is typical of similar spheres.

Temple at the Center of Time

P74. The late author David Flynn has a map showing the distance between Jerusalem and Babylon being 539 miles and the distance to Nippur being 587 miles. In 587 BC Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and in 539 BC Babylon fell to Persia/Iran.

P99. There's a map showing the distance between the temple mount and the center of London being 1948 nautical miles. Israel became a nation on 05/14/1948.

P125. Queen Elizabeth the first set the length of a mile at 5,280 feet in 1592.

Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)

the name for mean solar time of the longitude (0°) of the Royal Greenwich Observatory in England. The meridian at this longitude is called the prime meridian or Greenwich meridian. Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) has been used to clearly designate epoch by avoiding confusing references to local time systems (zones).

Royal Greenwich Observatory, astronomical observatory and, until its closure in 1998, the oldest scientific research institution in Great Britain. It was founded for navigational purposes in 1675 by King Charles II of England at Greenwich, and the astronomer in charge was given the title of astronomer royal.

[gini]

Piers debating an Egyptian comedian who makes his points with shocking sarcasm and dark humor

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4idQbwsvtUo

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Oct 18, 2023 #piersmorgan #israel #palestine
WARNING: This video contains strong language

Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Egyptian comedian Bassem Youssef and later on by co-founder of the Daily Wire, Jeremy Boreing, for a heated and emotive debate on the historical treatment of Palestine during their conflict with Israel and whether Israel's decision to bomb Gaza in an attempt to get rid of Hamas is justified and proportionate after the attacks on October 7th.

Bassem condemns the terrorist organisation Hamas and tries to explain that people have been desensitised to accept that civilians dying is an inevitability of war.

Piers then suggests he doesn't know what the "proportionate response" to a terrorist attack of Hamas's scale would be. Bassem responds by referencing a graph that shows the total amount of deaths in the conflict prior to the attacks and questions the Palestinian killings in the West Bank, which has never been occupied by Hamas fighters.

Bassem then mocks Ben Shapiro for his public stance on Israel defending themselves, questioning how an occupier can be defending themselves. Shapiro's friend and colleague Jeremy is then invited by Piers to debate Bassem's criticisms. " -


This interview made me think(again) about Piers Morgan giving so much space to the opponents of the globalist narrative ,and this comment resonates with my suspicions;

"At this point I believe that Piers Morgan is actually a good man who is totally against Israel, but he fears getting cancelled or angering his show's sponsors if he makes his true stance clear. So he's intentionaly bringing in knowledgeable people to educate his viewers about the real situation."

[norman]

Posted by Inversion (here)

Posted by Inversion (here)
Juan O Savin points the finger at the UK, the bankers and bloodlines in Europe for the actions in the Middle East. He said, "Who stands to gain?" He also said, "What is the largest country in the world?" The answer is the British Commonwealth.

The Rumble video can't be located on their site which is a reoccurring theme with some of her videos. I can't get the video code, so here's the link to Kerry's site: video running time 14:39

That's a section taken from this full video here: https://rumble.com/v3orh0f-juan-o-sa...0-11-2023.html

[wegge]

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)

Posted by meat suit (here)

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
Apparently, from the mainstream media, Biden will visit the war-zone tomorrow. Sounds like a very bad idea, highly risky, and something that could not possibly accomplish any US foreign policy goals...

Unless, maybe, somehow Biden got attacked or even killed.

In which case (obviously!) the US would have No Alternative but to go to war against... whoever they say is responsible.


When it comes to detecting false flags; forewarned is forearmed.

This is spinning me out... Jeez , what if they have kept Biden in the game for exactly that reason....
The mind boggles ...

That was the very first thought that popped into my mind when I heard that Biden was heading over.
ugh

our laughable German chancellor and his entourage supposedly were in some kind of war duress while in Israel, having had to deboard their plane and looking for shelter (two differenct occasions) - now they've made it safely to Egypt.

what I wanna say is - does this kinda prepare the media field for Joe?

[shaberon]

I believe this is a totally different set of targets today than from the Sheeba Farms:


Hezbollah Missiles Eradicate Large Number of Israeli Soldiers

Simply and briefly, the Zionist media described the situation on Lebanon border as terrible, reporting a large number of Israeli soldiers were killed or injured by Hezbollah attacks.

The Islamic Resistance issued on Tuesday six successive statements, detailing its attacks on the Israeli border settlements and sites.

Al-Mutella

Ramim Barracks

Zar’it, Asdah, Jall ad-Deir, Al-Malikiyah, and Barka Risha.

Bayyad Blida

Branit


For its part, the Israeli occupation forces bombarded the various Lebanese towns and villages close to the borders, causing materialistic losses exclusively.



Scholz's unnecessary whatever comes along with the Social Democrats nosediving in the polls:


The center-left party of Chancellor Olaf Scholz lost almost half of the support it enjoyed at the ballot box more than two years ago, while the rival conservatives came out on top with 32%, up 4 points from last week and almost 8 points from September 2021, the poll commissioned for RTL and n-tv news channels showed.

[Agape]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The black flag is flying over Iran's Imam Reza shrine — for the first time in history.

As best I understand, this is a call for the formation of a Muslim army to march on Jerusalem.

The text:

A black flag is raised over Imam Reza shrine in Iran for first time in history. Symbolism in Islamic historic tradition: "When the black flags come from Khorasan (Persia/Central Asia) go to them, even if you have to crawl on snow, among them is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi"

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...11995074576725

One could argue that hanging on the Black Flag symbolises a Storm like one at the end of the world ,
hanging it out would symbolize festive occasion

rather than ..lots of suffering .

My point is , entering to wars they can not win by brute force
does not result in Victory.

Mahdi returns to Cave.


“There are mountains you shall not cross,
cities you will not conquer ..” ( Sun Tzu, The Art of War)


The Holy City especially , like human Spirit, can be destroyed but not conquered.


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