Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1721634387630919775

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721652382184943682

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721651024899829953

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1721649107276575010

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https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1721640282679099648

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https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1721637022790475967

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1721626020036407487

https://x.com/anadoluagency/status/1721599026057842822

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https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1721573750716416425

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https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1721551335881896240

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1721547726356087143

https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1721512554340495843

https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1721508729042956704

[T Smith]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-eas...li-war-effort/


Okay, then, I accept that.
But look what it is doing.

It is hardening the resolve of Israel.

I can't speak for all the overall sentiment of the "pro-Palestinian" rallies (and yes--there are MANY, worldwide), but I would suggest the Brieitbart article is framing these protests inaccurately--possibly by design--by suggesting the sentiment undergirding these rallies are "praising the Hamas attacks," (huh? Really?)--and yes, while I'm sure there are some radical activists among these crowds who do indeed embrace the Hamas attack, the truth is, most who are participating in these protests (despite the emotional temptation of subscribing to the Breitbart spin) are not "praising the Hamas attacks" at all, nor calling for the "elimination of Israel", but are rather condemning genocide.

I understand the PTB who want to divide us, who would exploit the fog of war to suit their ends, find it very convenient to conflate the two, but surely you can see these are two very different things?

I for one refuse to praise the Hamas attacks (and I am certainly NOT calling for the elimination of Israel), but I will condemn the genocide. So where do I belong?

Wherever that may be, I'm certainly not going to allow Brietbart to pigeonhole me into a false category because of it.

[T Smith]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)

The Zionist state of Israel is not a Jewish state at all.

This. Everyone needs to study and understand this before any of us can get past this psyop.

[shaberon]

Posted by T Smith (here)
Israeli Zionists may be controlling America, or more accurately put, in collusion with an encompassing global power exploiting the peoples of both countries.

Let's consider:

If POTUS Barack Obama was unfriendly to Israel, why was he unable to sever America from its Zionist yoke?

Congress.

It seems to me the Zionist Industrial Complex--the Deep State--however one ascribes the unelected global powers to the actors responsible for what appears to be the opening salvo of WWIII, have captured both America and Israel for their own purposes.

So I would point out to Bolsen that America is not the power controlling Israel. America itself is controlled and captured by the same powers waging and enabling the genocide and hell-bent on destroying the world.

Such as NATO?

I would suggest that what might be called American America is Truman's Empire, from the way he affected the U. N. Charter.

However once we take it that there are French and German internationalists who hate their own countries, they probably hate the United States too. These must have some form of influence that is not loud and obvious like the Zionists.

My understanding had been that the British MI6 was interested in dissolving the United States via the CIA and the Federal Reserve, and there would be some kind of triumph if not of the British Crown, then at least a traceable pool of wealthy individuals. Someone trying to win and get rich more than destroy everything. British hands have everything to do with Ukraine and Israel. But I am still unaware of anybody who is especially benefitting from it. So that doesn't seem to be working.

Temporarily, at least, the people into organs and human trafficking cackle with glee.


But if you bought thousands of hectares of land and got the labor laws stripped down, I doubt you were motivated to see the place demolished.


Introducing Al Aqsa I:




Al-Aqsa-1 missile is very similar to the Iranian armed forces’ Fateh-110 missile. Fateh-110 is a solid-fueled missile with a 500-kilogram warhead and a range of 300 kilometers.

In case that Al-Aqsa-1 missile has similar specifications to Fateh-110, the range of influence and destruction of resistance group’s attacks against American occupiers in Iraq would increase significantly.

The unveiling of the Al-Aqsa-1 missile comes as tensions between resistance groups and the US terrorist army in Iraq and Syria have increased significantly in recent months, and only in recent hours, several military bases belonging to the US occupiers in Iraq and Syria have been targeted by the Islamic Resistance of Iraq.



This looks particularly difficult:

[shaberon]

Posted by T Smith (here)
I can't speak for all the overall sentiment of the "pro-Palestinian" rallies...

This is the sentiment in the affected area:

Even if Hamas’ leadership is toppled, it would be all but impossible to eradicate pro-militant sentiment from the Gaza population, raising the threat of new attacks, including suicide bombings, against whomever assumes power.

“If the Israelis succeed in crushing Hamas, I think it’s going to be extremely difficult to get a governing structure in there that is going to be legitimate and functional,” said Aaron David Miller, a former U.S. Middle East negotiator.

“The ‘day after’ exercises right now strike me as fantastical,” Miller said. …

If the Gazans are not rendered extinct, they, in general, support militancy against Israel.

That won't wash off.

Perhaps this never ends.

[Dennis Leahy]

The Ten Dumbest Things We’re Being Asked To Believe About Israel’s War On Gaza

Caitlin Johnstone
Nov 7

Here are the ten dumbest things we’re being asked to believe about Israel’s war on Gaza, in no particular order:
1. That Israel had no idea what Hamas was up to prior to October 7, but ever since October 7 has known about every hospital, mosque, school, refugee camp and water tower that Hamas is hiding in.

2. That the blame for all of the deaths caused by Israeli weapons launched by Israel rests solely on Hamas.

3. That Hamas is using “human shields” — meaning Hamas bases are hidden amidst civilian populations — yet Israel is managing to kill thousands of civilians without doing any meaningful damage to Hamas.

4. That it would be perfectly fine to murder children by the thousands even if they were being used as “human shields” — as though resolving a hostage situation by mowing down thousands of child hostages would be regarded as reasonable and acceptable by the public if it happened in our own country.

5. That it is only by pure coincidence that Israel bombing “Hamas targets” in civilian infrastructure and residential buildings just so happens to look exactly the same as what you’d expect to see if Israel was simply bombing civilian infrastructure and residential buildings and lying about its reasons for doing so.

6. That satellite images of entire neighborhoods reduced to rubble in Gaza have been caused by “precision strikes” directed solely at Hamas and have been carried out with the greatest of care for human life, despite Israeli officials openly saying that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy” in this assault and that “Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents; there will be no buildings.”

7. That this bombing campaign has anything to do with freeing Israeli hostages — as though the bombing campaign itself has not killed dozens of hostages, and as though anyone believes Israel would stop bombing Gaza after the hostages are returned.

8. That the only reason anyone could possibly oppose the detonation of thousands of bombs on an open air prison full of children would be if they had very strong and hateful opinions toward the members of the religion of Judaism.

9. That Hamas attacked Israel entirely out of the blue and completely unprovoked, solely because they are evil and hate Jews.

10. That Washington is powerless to stop this genocide that it is directly funding and supplying.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The Ten Dumbest Things We’re Being Asked To Believe About Israel’s War On Gaza

Caitlin Johnstone
Nov 7

Here are the ten dumbest things we’re being asked to believe about Israel’s war on Gaza, in no particular order:
1. That Israel had no idea what Hamas was up to prior to October 7, but ever since October 7 has known about every hospital, mosque, school, refugee camp and water tower that Hamas is hiding in.

2. That the blame for all of the deaths caused by Israeli weapons launched by Israel rests solely on Hamas.

3. That Hamas is using “human shields” — meaning Hamas bases are hidden amidst civilian populations — yet Israel is managing to kill thousands of civilians without doing any meaningful damage to Hamas.

4. That it would be perfectly fine to murder children by the thousands even if they were being used as “human shields” — as though resolving a hostage situation by mowing down thousands of child hostages would be regarded as reasonable and acceptable by the public if it happened in our own country.

5. That it is only by pure coincidence that Israel bombing “Hamas targets” in civilian infrastructure and residential buildings just so happens to look exactly the same as what you’d expect to see if Israel was simply bombing civilian infrastructure and residential buildings and lying about its reasons for doing so.

6. That satellite images of entire neighborhoods reduced to rubble in Gaza have been caused by “precision strikes” directed solely at Hamas and have been carried out with the greatest of care for human life, despite Israeli officials openly saying that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy” in this assault and that “Gaza will eventually turn into a city of tents; there will be no buildings.”

7. That this bombing campaign has anything to do with freeing Israeli hostages — as though the bombing campaign itself has not killed dozens of hostages, and as though anyone believes Israel would stop bombing Gaza after the hostages are returned.

8. That the only reason anyone could possibly oppose the detonation of thousands of bombs on an open air prison full of children would be if they had very strong and hateful opinions toward the members of the religion of Judaism.

9. That Hamas attacked Israel entirely out of the blue and completely unprovoked, solely because they are evil and hate Jews.

10. That Washington is powerless to stop this genocide that it is directly funding and supplying.

I might add:

11. That Israel is too big to fail.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The Ten Dumbest Things We’re Being Asked To Believe About Israel’s War On Gaza

Caitlin Johnstone
Nov 7

Here are the ten dumbest things we’re being asked to believe about Israel’s war on Gaza, in no particular order:

I’ve taken sides, mostly for myself but sometimes for others, some of whom I didn’t know at all. Saved my ass, and the asses of those aquaintance and strangers. I understand that value.

In this fight, which is as old as the religions involved, I don’t have a favourite. I see it as a tribal thing, same same, only now one tribe has better weapons. I would get concerned if things dominoed from here, but not so far.

I made peace with an Iranian man these past couple weeks. Not sure if friends, but we are now friendly, after some earlier heated takes. He had been going off the rails, coincident with these last weeks’ Gaza bombing (we spoke about that, the day the tanks rolled in), but he didn’t attribute it to that (he spoke several times about his mental state in other talks). He got kicked out yesterday, for wrecking his short term rental, and came by today and we had a pleasant brief conversation.

There is hope, backed by experience, that life will be ok. Please find yourself some. 👻😎♥️

[Rizotto]

How much does Jeffrey Epstein’s BLACK LIST has to do with many USA politicians’ total compliance to Israel’s wishes, even in the most horrible ways, such as aiding the current Israeli genocide against Gaza. Probably a lot. Let’s keep in mind that Epstein was eventually found out to have ties with the Mossad, and his child trafficking operation had evidence of an extortion operation. For example, a victim witness said that Epstein has hidden cameras in every room. And many, if not most, of his ‘clients’ were powerful USA politicians.

Think about all those compromised politicians who will just keep dancing to Netanyahu’s tune… as long as the LIST remains hidden. But if the LIST is finally published, as it should have been years ago, things would change dramatically. Powerful politicians would get exposed and demoted, and no longer in positions to order eternal assistance to Israel.

Just as important as the LIST itself, would be to uncover the exact nature and extent of Epstein’s collaboration with the Mossad.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Scott Ritter - "Palestine and Hamas have won.. Israel is in BIG TROUBLE!.." Excellent take on what’s going on and how Hamas has been manipulated to divide … and creating a Palestinian state..ect

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_m9g5idX4eU

Eric J

[Humwawa]

Alexander Mercouris is again thrashing the failure (or lack) of US diplomacy in Western Asia (ie. the Middle East). He and Alex Christoforous believe that there is a danger of the Neocons using the weakness of the Biden administration to hit Iran. If Trump returns to the WH, this may be their last chance to wage war against Iran. Alex and Alexander correctly point out that Trump's aggressive rhetoric against Iran masked his unwillingness to wage actual war against the country following the Soleimani assassination.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EoWSRoYVjKk

[thirtythree]

Rizotto,

Nail on the head!

This is exactly what i've been wondering all this time. Why do these politicians keep bending over backwards for Israel? To answer that, Epstein's flight logs would be a good place to start.

The man is dead but Ghislaine Maxwell will be able to answer that. Epstein was a mossad asset, so was Robert Maxwell. (Ghislaine's father).

[grapevine]

At 16:42 in the above Duran video, Alexander refers to a programme . . ."On X when we did that programme with Elon Musk and David Satz/Saxe". I would very much like to watch that if it's available. Has anyone here seen it and can they point me in the right direction? I've done a search on The Duran YT channel and nothing's coming up there, or on google either.

[Humwawa]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Bright Skies (here)
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I wish I knew his name ... I asked, but get no feedback ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yBumTNZvVvk

Does anyone know who this man is?

This is a very good analysis, but I wonder if Bolsen has the dynamic right. Is it America exploiting Israel? Or the other way around?

I have pondered this question for years without coming to a final conclusion.

1. The US uses Israel to serve its geostrategic interests in Western Asia (ie. the ME)

2. Israel uses the US to serve its own interests for creating a greater Israel.

Common sense and logic dictate that Sahel Bolson is correct and that the US Empire uses Israel to serve its strategic interests in the region. Ie. the Empire uses its proxy to serve the interests of the Empire. If the Proxy were to use the Empire for its own purpose, the Empire would no longer be the Empire.

For example, in Ukraine, the Bandera Nationalists believe that they can use the military and economic might of the US/Nato to beat the Russians with. That is obviously delusional. It is the US Empire (ie. the Neocons) that uses the fanaticism of the Banderite Nazis to "weaken Russia" or to "impose a strategic defeat on Russia." That isn't even a secret. In a Senate hearing, General Kellogg said that to defeat a strategic adversary without US troops is the acme of professionalism. Letting the Ukrainians fight the Russians for taking a strategic adversary off the table allows the US to focus on its primary adversary, which is China at this time. So far, the US, without batting an eye, has already sacrificed half a million Ukrainians and the territorial integrity of the country in the vain attempt of imposing a strategic defeat on Russia. Thus, it is the US that’s using Ukraine and not the other way around.

Or take Europe for example, the transatlantic narrative wants us to believe that the US protects Europeans from the communists. I have never believed that, not even during the cold war, much less today when the communists are gone. The US does not defend European interests; the US only defends US geopolitical interests in Europe, at the expense of European interests. That’s why the US had to divide Europe during the cold war and that is why the US has to divide Russia and Europe today. An “economic zone from Lisbon to Vladivostok” as it was proposed by Putin and Schroeder would have been the end of the US presence in Europe. To split Europe and Russia is/was the only achievable objective of the Ukraine war. Thus, Europe serves US interests and not the other way around.

Or look at WWII for example, when the Germans launched operation Barbarossa in 1941, Senator Harry S. Truman said that “if we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible.. . ” Thus, the US will do whatever it takes to support one side or the other in order to perpetuate the killing and consolidate US global hegemony.

In fact, even Joe Biden clearly said that if Israel didn’t exist, the US would have to invent Israel in order to defend US interests in the region. Why put so much fervour into defending Israel if Israel is blackmailing the US with the Samson Option? If Israel is blackmailing the US with the Samson Option, I think the US would probably find a way of taking out Israeli nukes before they can be launched. After all, Israel even depends on the US for refurbishing its Iron Dome air defense systems.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

In conclusion, even though to me US domestic politics is a book with 7 seals, I do understand about the power of the Israeli lobby in the US, but I don’t believe that the tail is wagging the dog. Ultimately, the US uses Israel, and not the other way around. Sahel Bolson is probably correct.

Edit: Ultimately, geopolitics trumps all other considerations. The ethnic hatred, the Banderites, the Zionists, the Nazis, etc., are all secondary. They come and go. The only thing that really counts is the very substantial geopolitical interest of the Empire.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Miller (here)
At 16:42 in the above Duran video, Alexander refers to a programme . . ."On X when we did that programme with Elon Musk and David Satz/Saxe". I would very much like to watch that if it's available. Has anyone here seen it and can they point me in the right direction? I've done a search on The Duran YT channel and nothing's coming up there, or on google either.

Here's what I presume is part of it... the rest might be found by Twitter subscribers on David Sacks' or Alexander Mercouris' channels:

The full text:

THE FORKS IN THE ROAD

In this video from his podcast, @AMercouris provides an excellent historical summary of the choices that the U.S. faced in the lead-up to the Ukraine War that would have averted the current disaster:

In 2004, the US could have stayed out of Ukrainian affairs altogether, but instead it chose to support a color revolution.

In 2008, the US could have listened to then-ambassador, now-CIA director Bill Burns’ advice not to expand NATO to Ukraine because it would cross the brightest of all redlines for the entire Russian leadership. But instead the US issued the Bucharest declaration that Ukraine would join NATO.

In 2013, the US and its European allies could have compromised on the EU accession agreement to address Russian concerns. But instead they maintained that they would not change even a punctuation mark.

In 2014, the US could have supported a peaceful transition of power in Ukraine. But instead it backed the Maidan coup against a democratically-elected government.

In 2015-2022, the US could have supported peaceful attempts, via the Minsk agreements, to resolve the protests by ethnic Russians that broke out in reaction to the coup. But instead it supported Kiev’s attempts to violently suppress and shell the Donbas.

In 2021-2022, the US could have negotiated over the draft Russian agreements which principally sought a written guarantee that Ukraine would not join NATO. But instead it insisted that it would never compromise over that policy.

In 2022, after the war broke out, the US could have supported the peace process in Belarus and Istanbul, but instead it sabotaged those agreements.

And now, in the wake of a failing counteroffensive, the US could seek to enter into serious negotiations with the Russians, but instead it’s demanding that the slaughter continue.

At every fork in the road, the US foreign policy elite have chosen the path of confrontation and conflict as opposed to compromise and peace.

https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/statu...47251192676353

[Bill Ryan]

Ah... no, that's NOT it. (But might in itself be interesting to some.)
Is this the one??

Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy & David Sacks break down Israel-Hamas & Russia-Ukraine

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=m2JR2vBYZHc

[grapevine]

Thanks for these Bill. That's my afternoon sorted . . .