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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Obviously Bojancan is once again attempting to highjack another thread with her ridiculous deranged useless EXTREMELY biased posts that do not add any reasonable substance to the ongoing conversation.

    If this crap persists I will permanently removed myself from this thread and conversation.

    I've been very tolerant of this members "spamming" and polluting threads with garbage for over a year now, I am done with it.

    I've been a member since 2012 and have never seen one member derail so many threads before, or for such a long period of time.

    What the hell is wrong with the moderation team here?????
    All what is happening now... Trump is spamming his people... not me SilentF!!!!
    I was reading your posts everywhere... so much accuses for not sincere Trump always...
    I am not adding nothing, that is not a TRUTH!!! As Candace... as Braking Points/Krystal and Kyle...
    I was first following Brian Berletić... and I noticed, that you didn't like what kind of opinion he is.. he was!
    I was never spamming here... I just have another opinion of Trump and his brainwashed followers... now we see the real face of him!
    I will not post much here anyhow... anymore, because you are few of here very dumb... do not see through Trump's lies and pretending ... he is fake and he is not honest! Period!
    You can stay here SilentF... I am gone for a while...
    But in the end of the day... I was always right with my opinion, regarding war in the east... about Gaza and those criminals Bibi, trump and their handlers!
    I am agry now... how could you say to me that I am spamming?????

    You are a SPAMMER SilentF! Period!

    I apologize to other members here have to read this attack... this was very harsh attack on me here... NOW! I do not accept it!!!!!
    See what I mean MODERATORS?????? Am I the only one that see's a f**king pattern here?????????????????
    SilentFeathers

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Obviously Bojancan is once again attempting to highjack another thread with her ridiculous deranged useless EXTREMELY biased posts that do not add any reasonable substance to the ongoing conversation.

    If this crap persists I will permanently removed myself from this thread and conversation.

    I've been very tolerant of this members "spamming" and polluting threads with garbage for over a year now, I am done with it.

    I've been a member since 2012 and have never seen one member derail so many threads before, or for such a long period of time.

    What the hell is wrong with the moderation team here?????
    All what is happening now... Trump is spamming his people... not me SilentF!!!!
    I was reading your posts everywhere... so much accuses for not sincere Trump always...
    I am not adding nothing, that is not a TRUTH!!! As Candace... as Braking Points/Krystal and Kyle...
    I was first following Brian Berletić... and I noticed, that you didn't like what kind of opinion he is.. he was!
    I was never spamming here... I just have another opinion of Trump and his brainwashed followers... now we see the real face of him!
    I will not post much here anyhow... anymore, because you are few of here very dumb... do not see through Trump's lies and pretending ... he is fake and he is not honest! Period!
    You can stay here SilentF... I am gone for a while...
    But in the end of the day... I was always right with my opinion, regarding war in the east... about Gaza and those criminals Bibi, trump and their handlers!
    I am agry now... how could you say to me that I am spamming?????

    You are a SPAMMER SilentF! Period!

    I apologize to other members here have to read this attack... this was very harsh attack on me here... NOW! I do not accept it!!!!!
    See what I mean MODERATORS?????? Am I the only one that see's a f**king pattern here?????????????????
    Please tell me now SilentF...
    So you are with that opinion... those who see now very clearly through the veil, trump was hiding behind... and are talking about that... with different opinion as yours... we should be shut down... and have to be silent????

    I was never for war... never for those who were without a words accepting what Israel was doing... and trump was telling bib : 'Go on... finish quick ... there are nice valued development properties for us to built"... etc!
    I can not be numb... I can not agree with all those people, who never saw this was/is coming...
    While I was silently observing here in forum posts members were adding... more I see real picture here.
    I was very active in this thread... adding many many post regarding about killings children and women in Palestine... as is happening also these moments. And I do not see so many posts here, to add about that... every day 50 hungry people mostly children died, while waiting for food...

    You are pathetic SilentF about accusing me something here... and asking administration... I did not add anything that is not trustfully align with the facts!!! Period..
    Go back to the topics of this thread...
    You began with all accusations about myself... silly!
    I am off!

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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    The images coming out of Gaza are apocalyptic, depicting the latest - and perhaps final - chapter in a genocide. Under an operation called Gideon’s Chariots, the Israeli military is forcing Palestinians into tiny corners of the besieged enclave. Its next phase: another full-scale invasion aimed at taking complete control of the territory.


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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Iran has named the missile attack operation targeting American bases in the region “Glad Tidings of Victory,” in response to the American aggression


    They appear to have three avenues of material support:


    Quote Araghchi-Putin Meeting Much Broader than Condemnation: Military Support on the Way

    The Russian technical and military aids to Iran would be in parallel with the Russian initiative to end the dispute though the US aggression on Iran complicated the already complex mission of Moscow.

    Two other countries are likely to join the military-technical cooperation as security guarantors: China and North Korea, the latter of which we have previously written about its capabilities in arming Iran with modern weapons, Hajj Ali concluded.


    Quote “The American enemy’s aggression has made it clear to the entire world that Zionist evil is merely an extension of the American plan. Accordingly, we remind all that American bases and mobile military targets in the region are not strengths in this national defense landscape, but rather critical weak points and thorns in the side of this war-driven regime.”

    On the eve of the sacred month of Muharram, the month of mourning for the Leader of Martyrs, our master Abu Abdullah Al-Hussein (peace be upon him), IRGC once again warn the enemies of Islamic Iran:

    The era of one-sided confrontations has ended. The determined will of our strong and people-supported armed forces dictates that any renewed evil will accelerate the collapse of the American military establishment in the region, trigger its disgraceful retreat from West Asia, and fulfill the shared aspiration of the Islamic Ummah and the free peoples of the world—to uproot the Zionist cancerous entity.

    Quote "As of now, there is NO "agreement" on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards," he stressed.

    "The final decision on the cessation of our military operations will be made later," he concluded.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    This is the latest analysis about this moments.. by Berletić with Diesen..
    I didn't have a time to listen it yesterday... so I was finished listening today... just minutes ago.
    I found out.. it is so obvious to understand what is going on with all rhetorics from Trump, administrations and around in different places.. always respect Brian's deep understanding and expelling all facts surrounding these acts in these critical moments we are living now...

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    Brian Berletic: Trump's Deceptions & War Against Iran


    "Brian Berletic is a former US Marine, author and international relations expert. Berletic argues the war against Iran has been planned for many years, and that Trump's diplomatic efforts are mostly to deceive."

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote Posted by Sirus (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Pepe Escobar, live with Danny Haiphong as I write this, explains:

    1) Iran had to make this strike on the US base in Qatar. But it was theater, inasmuch as they would certainly (a) have explained to the Qatar government that it was going to happen with no intended damage to Qatar itself, and also (b) informed the US so that they could evacuate the base (which they did).

    2) More important has been the continuing attack on Israel, now using more advanced missiles and focused on destroying Israel's economy.
    Trump's going to have a nearly impossible task of reigning Netanyahu in. If he can do this, things could de-escalate.

    The people in Israel must be completely tired of this, surprised they aren't rioting in the streets for their own "regime change".
    Prior to October 7th, it was going that way. Bibi and the odd lot messed with the judiciary and it was deeply unpopular with the Israeli public. This was, until, a village idiot from Gaza (who had life saving brain surgery from Israel)led a terrorist attack on kids and tourists at a music festival and rallied the Israeli people together. That village idiot is now dead, along with 10's of thousands of people and here we now are.
    A simple search

    Quote did israel allow october 7th attack?
    of available articles and facts could lead a conspiracy-minded sort to strongly suspect that Netanyahu and Israel Intelligence allowed that attack to happen for just the situation that resulted, not dissimilar to the 'allowed it to happen' theories concerning the US neocons and 9/11 (Israel's Mossad certainly knew about the 9/11 attack ahead of time, probably because they were so involved in its planning and execution, along with Cheney and Rumsfeld.

    I suspect Netanyahu is totally craven and evil enough to sacrifice a large number of his citizens to preserve and increase his power and plans for 'an ongoing genocide in Gaza'.


    https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-...n-was-looming/

    Quote Despite being warned for more than a year that his government’s policies had weakened Israel’s deterrence and that terrorist groups believed their “moment had arrived,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to act and even appeared “bored and indifferent to the issue” during one joint briefing on the issue, Opposition Leader Yair Lapid testified on Thursday.
    https://apnews.com/article/new-york-...71fe9b5b819308

    Quote New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel’s military was aware of Hamas ' plan to launch an attack on Israeli soil over a year before the devastating Oct. 7 operation that killed hundreds of people, The New York Times reported Friday.

    It was the latest in a series of signs that top Israeli commanders either ignored or played down warnings that Hamas was plotting the attack, which triggered a war against the Islamic militant group that has devastated the Gaza Strip.

    The Times said Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-page battle plan, code-named “Jericho Wall,” that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities.


    It was unclear how the document was obtained by Israel, but the article said that it had been translated — indicating it may have been in Arabic and directly intercepted from Hamas.

    https://truthout.org/articles/report...but-didnt-act/

    Quote Report: Israeli Officials Knew of October 7 Attack a Year Ago, But Didn’t Act

    Israeli officials have exploited the attack to “justify” their genocide in Gaza.

    For over a year, Israeli officials had detailed knowledge of the plan for the October 7 attack by Hamas forces — but, despite knowing about the devastation the incursion would cause, Israeli leaders declined to act, a new bombshell New York Times investigation reveals.

    Documents, emails and interviews conducted by The Times show that Israeli military and intelligence officials possessed a 40-page blueprint for the attack. The document laid out specific plans for the attack, detailing which of Israel’s security measures Hamas forces planned to take out, including security cameras and automated machine guns around the border, and the points of the border wall Israel erected to sanction off Gaza that Hamas fighters would breach.

    As the investigation finds, Hamas forces carried out the plan for what Israeli officials code-named “Jericho Wall” with “shocking precision.” It would result in the deadliest day for Israelis in the country’s history, with 1,200 people killed — and then, a genocide in Gaza that has killed over 15,000 Palestinians so far, which Israel has used the October 7 raid to justify at length.
    Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago



    A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/w...elligence.html

    The original article from the Times gives it some context. It may have been an oversight and at the very least it was extreme negligence by the leadership.

    Having said that, Hamas still attacked and were given the opportunity to show what they are. Rapist, child molesting scum.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Trump just posted this on Truth Social:

    What I highlighted in red is key, and in my opinion Netanyahu needs to be quickly reigned in, it will be no easy task.

    Quote Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was “set free,” because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their “system,” and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

    DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    Jun 23, 2025, 3:52 PM

    Re Trump reining in Netanyahu - a thought struck me when I saw something about no one having seen or heard from Iran's Supreme Leader - the Ayatollah - and a rumour that he had been assassinated by the 'Israelis' - maybe he has been given the chance to go into hiding rather than die - (or he has been killed) - but some of this could have been part of a deal to manoeuvre Netanyahu out of office asap...

    We will have to see how the ceasefire pans out - but Trump detractors, the Deep State and the Globalist Elite will be very disappointed if it does...(hold out)... they don't want anything that puts Trump in a good light .... as far as I'm concerned this whole thing is because those pushing HARD for a One World Government / digital currency (etc) want to get their hands on Iran (and Russia)...

    IMO -Trump is a very independent minded and unconventional International Diplomat - at the highest level - it doesn't get any higher - he had me a bit worried over the last couple of weeks - BUT - the high level international diplomacy seems, at the moment, to be working out (fingers crossed)....

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Trump just posted this on Truth Social:

    What I highlighted in red is key, and in my opinion Netanyahu needs to be quickly reigned in, it will be no easy task.

    Quote Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was “set free,” because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their “system,” and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

    DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    Jun 23, 2025, 3:52 PM

    Re Trump reining in Netanyahu - a thought struck me when I saw something about no one having seen or heard from Iran's Supreme Leader - the Ayatollah - and a rumour that he had been assassinated by the 'Israelis' - maybe he has been given the chance to go into hiding rather than die - (or he has been killed) - but some of this could have been part of a deal to manoeuvre Netanyahu out of office asap...

    We will have to see how the ceasefire pans out - but Trump detractors, the Deep State and the Globalist Elite will be very disappointed if it does...(hold out)... they don't want anything that puts Trump in a good light .... as far as I'm concerned this whole thing is because those pushing HARD for a One World Government / digital currency (etc) want to get their hands on Iran (and Russia)...

    IMO -Trump is a very independent minded and unconventional International Diplomat - at the highest level - it doesn't get any higher - he had me a bit worried over the last couple of weeks - BUT - the high level international diplomacy seems, at the moment, to be working out (fingers crossed)....
    I think WW3 was always the next solution for the elite to get what they want. It was rather strange that almost the same day they said on the media that covid is no longer a threat the narrative changed to Ukraina/Russia-war. And now the war has already spread to middle-east so unfortunately this may be the way it's going to end. Which is the great reset after everything's been blown to pieces.

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    Regarding post # 9006 above, where Sirus stated: "Hamas still attacked and were given the opportunity to show what they are. Rapist, child molesting scum."

    Oh Please! That's been debunked. For one thing, the Grayzone journalists did a detailed investigation on this matter, and found no evidence of rape or child molestation by Hamas on October 7.
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    Trump has no shame! He just invented the ceasefire story. Fact is, Iran had not agreed to a ceasefire, as per this RT article.
    Furthermore, in the proposed ceasefire, Iran is to start the ceasefire 12 hours BEFORE Israel starts its ceasefire. How does that make sense? Israel is the one who started this warfare with a June 13 surprise attack on Iran.
    Looks like a trap is being set for Iran. Could involve a false-flag by Israel.

    I highlighted below Iran's response to Trump's claim of 'ceasefire'.

    _____________________________________________________

    https://www.rt.com/news/620375-trump...iran-ceasfire/

    June 23, 2025

    Iran and Israel have agreed to ceasefire – Trump
    The Middle East arch-rivals will end their “12-day war,” the US president wrote on his Truth Social platform


    Iran and Israel have agreed to end hostilities, US President Donald Trump claimed on Monday evening. The announcement came hours after Iran fired missiles at a US military base in Qatar, in response to American strikes on its nuclear facilities.

    “It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

    “Officially, Iran will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 12th Hour, Israel will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 24th Hour, an Official END to THE 12 DAY WAR will be saluted by the World. During each CEASEFIRE, the other side will remain PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL,” he added.

    “On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, ‘THE 12 DAY WAR,’” Trump wrote.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi denied that a ceasefire agreement is in place, but added that Iran would end its attacks if Israel does the same by 4 am Tehran time (12:30 am GMT).

    Open war between Israel and Iran broke out on June 13, when the IDF launched strikes on military and nuclear facilities across Iran and carried out assassinations of senior Iranian commanders and nuclear scientists. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the operation was aimed at preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    Iran, which denies having a military nuclear program, responded by firing missiles and drones into Israel.

    On June 22, US B-2 bombers and Tomahawk missiles struck three Iranian nuclear sites, including uranium enrichment facilities in Natanz and Fordow. The following day, Iran responded by firing missiles at the US Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Alexander Chizhevsky: Soviet scientist who used the 11 year solar cycle to predict, let's say, peak human activity intensity, although that may be a poor description. It's new to me so I'll attempt to go more granular. This suggests a correlation with some of Clif High's work although his modality is quite discrete from this.

    Fascinating.
    [I]Alexander Chizhevsky's work was suppressed in the Soviet Union primarily due to its political and ideological implications, which clashed with the state's control over scientific narratives and societal behavior.

    1. **Predictive Power Over Mass Behavior**: Chizhevsky’s heliobiology suggested that solar cycles, particularly sunspot activity, could influence human behavior and trigger mass events like revolutions, wars, and social unrest.
    and here:

    The peak of this Chizhevsky clock cycle is mid July.

    Understand:

    A clock does not make time, it shows time.


    ---


    ---

    So, in summary, we could see an increase in tension between now and mid-July. I'd need to check again but I think Clif High using his models has predicted the same point in July for emotional language intensity clearly suggesting that this is likely to pivot around events in West Asia.
    ..and with thanks to mountain_jim for his post over here, which relates to my reference to Clif: I'd suggest, or at least intuit, that Clif's predictions may be rather more reliable than he is giving them credit for although these sorts of things do tend to oscillate:

    [mountain_jim's text]:
    Clif's data(?) - thought he said his models were no longer reliable at some point...

    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1936785665162940669




    clif is antiselenite
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    how this month and July are forecast to unfold...


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    Quote Posted by muxfolder (here)

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    I think WW3 was always the next solution for the elite to get what they want. It was rather strange that almost the same day they said on the media that covid is no longer a threat the narrative changed to Ukraina/Russia-war. And now the war has already spread to middle-east so unfortunately this may be the way it's going to end. Which is the great reset after everything's been blown to pieces.

    They never let up for a moment, eh - never take the propaganda pressure off for a micro second especially since Trump started his first term in 2016...

    Re all roads leading to WW3 - maybe - but I hold in mind that the Deep State Ruling Elite who want to dictate to a greatly reduced population how everyone lives and what they can do...will not want societies to collapse to such a degree that the they can't continue with their technology based - mind control - if the electricity infrastructure goes and the whole Smart Phone + internet network goes... with it goes their 24/7 propaganda drive - and people will be released from the constant brainwashing - ???
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    What's particularly disgusting about Trump's newly fabricated claim of 'peacemaking' between Israel and Iran, is the fact that he completely ignores Israel's savage cruelty inflicted daily on Palestinians, to this day. Trump has not even said a thing about Israel's blockade of essential supplies to Gaza, as they're currently starving to death.

    It's almost as if one of Israel's goal in their June 13 surprise attack on Iran is to distract the world from the ongoing genocide they're inflicting on Palestinians.

    Trump is complicit with this ongoing genocide, as he enables Israel with all the military aid they want. To all of these corrupt, sadistic, soulless psychopaths involved in this genocide: the world knows who you are.
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    Vanessa Beeley has provided an update on X and much of what she says really should be taken into account here. (For those that are unaware Vanessa Beeley is resident in Syria and has pretty reliable first-hand reportage available to her.) She's a sane voice and very well placed to comment/update. My view for what it may be worth is that allusions to ceasefire are a decoy - do not accept statements to that effect at face value:

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    Points about the alleged US-Iran-Israel ceasefire that Trump is yelling about on X.
    Ceasefires are never honoured by Israel or the US. See Lebanon, Palestine, violations of demarcation zone in Syria etc. Israel is a consumer more than a producer of weapons. Iran is a producer more than a consumer. Ceasefires are an opportunity for Israel to replenish stocks with US allied help. The war is far from over.

    Israel also needs to rest its pilots, service the fighter jets and attend to the failings in the multi-layer air defence systems. Iran needs more time than Israel to address the damage from the first stage of the war. This is not to diminish the damage done to Israel by Iran - this is also considerable, but Israel has an entire cohort of powerful countries that will leap to its assistance.

    Opposition politician, Avigdor Liebermann is already claiming ‘the ceasefire is shameful, neither Iran’s missile program nor its nuclear program was destroyed. This is an unconditional ceasefire. Iran will enrich uranium again (Iran never agreed to NOT enrich uranium)

    Just prior to the faux ceasefire - a nuclear scientist, Mohhammad Reza Seddiqi was assassinated in early morning attacks by Israel. Dr Neda Rafiel Parsa, a senior manager at the Tavanir Company, Iran’s state-owned electricity company was also killed during the Zionist attack.

    Terrorist attacks in the Gilan province of Iran in the north-east targeted a residential area. Nine civilians were murdered and 33 others injured. 16 of the dead and injured were women and children according to Iranian reports. See map.

    Iran has seen its regional popularity explode since Israel began its aggression. The popularity among the people of the region is unprecedented. If the US wanted to isolate Iran, Israel’s aggression has had the opposite effect. Also unprecedented and perhaps unexpected, after the efforts by the West to orchestrate internal divide in Iran, national cohesion within Iran is at its highest since 1979. The Western-backed opposition were completely overwhelmed by the backlash from Iranian society. Their isolation will not recover.

    Iran’s military credibility and power has been demonstrated across the region and in the capitals of the neocolonialist US-led Hegemons. Iran recovered from the initial blows dealt them by Israel and responded with intelligence, economy of scale and surprise. The Zionist air-defence suffered both in functionality and a loss of deterrence optics. Iran has not even unleashed its most modern and sophisticated missiles. It has reserves and can continue its war of attrition for the long-term. Israel needs the ceasefire to replenish its dwindling missile supplies. It also needs the Pyrhhic victory handed to them by Trump to keep Netanyahu in power.

    Internally in Iran, some Iranian analysts have pointed out the opportunity to reform areas of the security, media, intelligence systems to strengthen the state for future conflict and infiltration. The lessons from this first stage of the inevitable war can be assimilated and addressed.

    Israeli media - Theoretically the ceasefire has begun. Practically we are now in the shelters (7.25 am). The pain that Iran has inflicted upon Israel and the squatter population is unprecedented in history. The trauma will not be easy to recover from, nor should it be - while Israel is still conducting a sadistic and savage genocide in Gaza and the West Bank.

    Israel, meanwhile, has been increasing its attacks in the south of Lebanon. Analysts here believe that there will be a new surge of Takfiri attacks, suicide bombings, IEDs to keep the Resistance and military occupied in case of a regional escalation that will bring the non-state Resistance actors into the war against Israel and the US.

    In the early hours of Tuesday morning, multiple attacks were reported across Iraq. Taji Area, north of Baghdad. Baghdad International Airport. Balad - Salah Al Din Governorate. Balad Air Base, Al Bakr Air Base. Nasiryah - Dhi Qar governorate, Imam Ali Air Base in southern Iraq. No group has yet claimed responsibility but the attacks suggest a high level of coordination on the ground.

    Enemy Watch on Telegram - America was losing this battle, so it announced a one-sided ceasefire but sent mixed messages. The U.S. plays aggression and imposes threats on opponents without justice. When it fears losing control, it announces ceasefires and flees just like in Gaza and Lebanon. Biden and Trump have only deepened the disgrace of the 249-year-old U.S. empire, weakening its hegemony. The challenge is not over. If the U.S. escalates border threats against Iran or takes other steps using its terror proxies, Iran and the resistance are ready and will remain cautious and serious to reply. Iran will hunt Mossad operatives, secure its borders, and prepare for the new challenges ahead.

    This aggression has revealed to the world, those still asleep, that the US and Israel are the criminal players who routinely violate International Law. Iran did not start this war but it responded in a way that has earned it respect globally. This, despite sanctions and the entire Western diplomatic complex being weaponised against Iran - including the IAEA that literally greenlighted the aggression with its claim that Iran was ‘non compliant’. The US, Israel should, by now, be discredited entirely. It is only the power of the US that is keeping it afloat but even this is being exposed as a paper tiger on the world stage. Trump should be perceived as an inconsistent narcissist - this won’t happen with his diehard supporters who will still claim its all 5D chess but the more discerning should be very worried about where Trump will flip-flop to once his “ceasefire” loses its appeal.

    The Ayatollah Khamenei was seen to be utterly un-phased by threats to assassinate him. He led the country with full command and presence of mind and ideology. Those paying attention in the world learned who he is, what he stands for and how Iran leads under pressure - they also witnessed mass support on the streets for the defence of the sovereignty of a proud, cultured and ancient civilisation.

    The West and Israel failed to dent Iranian military defence and offence capabilities. Perhaps the ceasefire is to give US and Israel time to re-evaluate tactics to ‘regime change’ Iran after their blitzkrieg failed, just as. it did against Ansarullah.

    Now Iran is applying pressure. Trump folded under the threat to the Hormuz Strait. The Arab Gulf states are in a state of panic over the possible threat to their oil facilities - their reason for existence. Iran is on the verge of expelling the IAEA. Iran has demonstrated that no threat, however great, will deter Iran from 1: Support for Palestine and the Resistance Axis 2: Iranian sovereignty and unity.

    If Israel and US genuinely wanted to deter Iran from developing a nuclear weapon ( a claim that has been running for 30 years) their latest military antics will potentially have the opposite effect - and with good cause.

    The powerful state allies of Iran in the world have come forward and made their positions clear. This is also another message to the US Israel alliance of genocide.

    I just wanted to regroup my initial thoughts here and I will, of course, be adding to them as the situation develops but in my opinion, the ‘ceasefire’ is not intended to remain in place for long.
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    Spokesperson of the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters: The aggressive Zionist regime launched attacks on targets inside the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran in three phases, continuing until 9 AM today (Tuesday). The Armed Forces had already made it clear that no act of aggression would go unanswered — and this regime will pay a heavy price for its actions.

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    Trump losing grip?? Losing patience? Not sure I’ve heard him use the F word before…

    In reference to the supposed ceasefire between both Iran and Israel having been violated in the last few hours.

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    Israel and Iran have been fighting for so long and so hard that they don’t know what the **** they’re doing," - President Donald Trump.

    It really feels like a parent with two kids fighting that is powerless to stop them. You sit them down, try and talk it out and they spit on each other.


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    Quote Posted by Eric J (Viking) (here)
    Trump losing grip?? Losing patience? Not sure I’ve heard him use the F word before…

    In reference to the supposed ceasefire between both Iran and Israel having been violated in the last few hours.

    https://x.com/MSquigz/status/1937468014137667978
    I think he is getting upset that they are just not listening.

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    Interesting but not at all surprising given that the Zionist ideology and respective acolytes is and are behind both the creation of Ukraine, and the creation of Israel.

    From Olga Bazova on X:
    Three Ukrainian operatives were attempting to do sabotage in Iran on behalf of Mossad, got caught and sentenced to death by hanging within days.

    Iran is doing its part in THD.
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    Quote Posted by apkallu (here)
    two kids fighting
    But one of them is a psychopathic bully that has a fully loaded AR-15 hidden under his bed, and might just use it if he fears he'll lose the argument.

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Trump just posted this on Truth Social:

    What I highlighted in red is key, and in my opinion Netanyahu needs to be quickly reigned in, it will be no easy task.

    Quote Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was “set free,” because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their “system,” and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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    Re Trump reining in Netanyahu - a thought struck me when I saw something about no one having seen or heard from Iran's Supreme Leader - the Ayatollah - and a rumour that he had been assassinated by the 'Israelis' - maybe he has been given the chance to go into hiding rather than die - (or he has been killed) - but some of this could have been part of a deal to manoeuvre Netanyahu out of office asap...

    We will have to see how the ceasefire pans out - but Trump detractors, the Deep State and the Globalist Elite will be very disappointed if it does...(hold out)... they don't want anything that puts Trump in a good light .... as far as I'm concerned this whole thing is because those pushing HARD for a One World Government / digital currency (etc) want to get their hands on Iran (and Russia)...

    IMO -Trump is a very independent minded and unconventional International Diplomat - at the highest level - it doesn't get any higher - he had me a bit worried over the last couple of weeks - BUT - the high level international diplomacy seems, at the moment, to be working out (fingers crossed)....
    Trump got Netanyahu to turn his bombers around this morning without dropping their loads and violating this so called ceasefire, which is a good thing. Somewhat of a sign that he is reigning Netanyahu in to some degree.

    Trumps biggest challenge? Netanyahu.... Bibi's like Lindsey Graham on steroids and doesn't want to stop the carnage, he also absolutely wants regime change in Iran..

    Even though Trump somehow managed to slightly lower the danger level, the situation remains critical IMO.

    As much as so many absolutely hate and despise Trump, I don't think anyone else could of maneuvered and twisted the situation like he did. If things get better moving forward has yet to be seen.

    I'm remaining optomistic....

    ADDED:

    There's rumors Israel did not turn around its bombers and actually did strike Tehran.
    It's hard to say what's true or not, we'll just have to wait and see how things actually unfold.
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